argininesy Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Whenever an enemy NPC attempts to heal themselves using any non-concentration (i.e. fire-and-forget) healing spell, they seem to instead lose the equivalent health that should be restored, frequently leading to enemy mages instantly dying when their health gets below 1/3 as they cast the spell. My character is unaffected. NPC potion use seems to be working correctly. LOOT does not detect any errors or missing compatibility patches, and all mods are up-to-date as of this posting. 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nagrom2608 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 At least it beats fighting them LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuagaarWarrior Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) Havent gone through your mod list because im lazy but my guess is you have a spell mod which adds this spell to the game. A spell that heals other whilst draining the health of the caster or something. This spell has been distributed to mages through ASIS You could try re-running the ASIS patches and deactivating spell distribution. It may not be a bad idea anyway unless you want to get spammed by fireballs. Or you could deactivate the offending spell mod, run ASIS patches, then reactivate the spell mod. This will mean the spell is accessible to you but not enemies. If you run the patches again you will probably need to start a new game Edited November 13, 2018 by QuagaarWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argininesy Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 As a matter of fact QuagaarWarrior, that was exactly what it was. The perk "False Light" from Ordinator in the restoration tree causes targeted healing spells to damage hostile targets. Enemy mages were receiving the perk through ASIS, causing them to injure themselves every time they tried to heal up. By excluding that specific perk under ASIS's exceptions ini I was able to resolve this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuagaarWarrior Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Glad you got it sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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