mods causing glitch hell

[Dukoth]

ok, so 2 months ago I wanted to play new vegas again so I went through the mothions of cleaning out my data folder and downloading new/updated mods, installing them, load order adjustments, merged patch, and play, and the game would glitch horibly on me. so after fidling with it for a day I lost faith and gave up for a month.

 

recently I have decided to give it another go and after carefully installing mods (removing a few from the list, and running the game every few mods to make sure it runs smoothly, this process takes an entire day), the problem is that I'm still running in to the same glitch.

 

the actual glitch comes in the form of a functional breakdown of the game, I'm walking along, sing'n a song; when I start getting texture gitches on stuff that was working meer moments earlier, then meshes start dissapeering, always including the pipboy, and the esc key stops working so I can't quit the normal way, sounds stop as well, and I eighther have to ctrl-alt-delet to start task manager, or wait for the game to crash

 

now I'm no newb to mod usage ( been doing this since homeworld), I know about load orders, creating a merged patch, proper installing, and using fomm and boss, and I have no idea what the hell is going on that causes the world to end,

 

here is my load order, I warn you it's huge:

 

 

 

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

Ambient Temperature.esm

Companion Core.esm

FNVToolkit.esm

AEVegas.esm

Frequency.esm

Inventory Access.esm

Kaya47NF.esm

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

MoMod.esm

More Perks.esm

More Perks for Companions.esm

More Perks for Dead Money.esm

More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm

More Perks for Old World Blues.esm

More Traits.esm

NSkies - Vanilla Edition.esm

NVInteriors_Core.esm

NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

rePopulated Wasteland.esm

RobCo Certified.esm

Selective Fire.esm

WARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm

D.E.I.M.O.S..esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

XRocket.esm

Bobblehunt.esp

FairyRadar.esp

FPSWeaponWheel.esp

HUD Extended.esp

HUD Extended - Ambient Temperature.esp

Readius_NV.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

AWOP-MoMod.esp

UHNV.esp

UHNV-Dead Money.esp

UHNV-Honest Hearts.esp

UHNV-OWB.esp

UHNV-Lonesome Road.esp

UHNV-Bobblehunt.esp

UHNV-More Mannequins.esp

UHNV-Brighter Lighting.esp

Light My Flare.esp

Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp

Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp

Project Nevada - Old World Blues (No Cyberware).esp

Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp

Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp

Selective Fire - Project Nevada.esp

NewVegasBounties.esp

TheCollector.esp

More Perks Update.esp

More Perks for Companions Update.esp

More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp

More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp

More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp

More Traits Update.esp

Animated Prostitution.esp

Frequency - Dead Money Patch.esp

Frequency - Honest Hearts Patch.esp

Frequency - Old World Blues Patch.esp

Frequency - Project Nevada Patch.esp

Alexscorpion's Custom AK103.esp

Euclid C-Finder Unlimited Ammo.esp

Glow Sticks.esp

Jswords4sale.esp

Minimissilelauncher.esp

Murdelizer.esp

Playing With Firepower - New Vegas.esp

SAW M249.esp

THOR.esp

Colossus NV.esp

Colossus Armor For New Vegas (keylek).esp

DeadMoneyFemaleTuxedo.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

Holster.esp

Powered Power Armor.esp

Ambient Temperature - PPA.esp

Sunglasses Shipment.esp

Tailor Maid - NV.esp

THE5 Visors Mod.esp

AWOPDeadMoney.esp

NVWillow.esp

RobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.esp

UnlimitedCompanions.esp

Feng Shui NV.esp

Dead Money - No Collar Explosion and No Poison Cloud.esp

Jump Fall Fixer.esp

WeaponModsExpanded.esp

Project Nevada - WMX.esp

Frequency - PN+WMX Patch.esp

WMX-DeadMoney.esp

WMX-HonestHearts.esp

WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp

WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp

WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp

WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp

EVE FNV.esp

Project Nevada - EVE.esp

WMX-EVE.esp

Vurt's WFO.esp

XVEnclaveBunker.esp

Project Nevada - XV Enclave Bunker Patch.esp

MojaveDelight.esp

shogo_laser_katana.esp

TheBackpack.esp

EVE FNV-[GRA Patch for EVE 1.3].esp

AWOP DLC + GRA Conflict Error Fixes.esp

00BulletForBenny.esp

Companion Sandbox Mode3.esp

Frequency - EVE & WMX Patch.esp

ILO - A World of Pain.esp

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition - No Lucky38.esp

Jetpack.esp

WMX-AWOP-Overhaul.esp

WMX-AWOP.esp

WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

XRocket.esp

COL Hellfire NV.esp

Tommy Gun.esp

DriveableMotorCycle.esp

JM1Garand4Loot.esp

XM8 Mod Semi and Fully.esp

Hedszot's Weapon Pack.esp

littlebaby.esp

Lighter Gold Bars.esp

merged patch.esp

 

Total active plugins: 145

Total plugins: 145

 

 

 

so, has anyone encountered this, do you know what causes it and how to fix it?

[rickerhk]

You need to reduce your plugin count. 140 ish is where people start having those issues.

 

Merge armor and simple mods with FNVPlugin to reduce your plugin count.

[Dukoth]

is that the merged patch feature in fnv edit, have I been useing that wrong? I thought you just select all your .esp's and creat a merged patch that you load at the bottom. (you know, I alwase had a feeling I was doing that wrong) please explain, need more info!!

 

ok, I did a steam file recovery earlier and now fnv edit cant open the registry key

 

edit: oh I see, fnv plugin is an acual utility, dling now, and trimming some eccess fat of the load order

Edited June 30, 2012 by Dukoth

[durbin]

Ok are you using 4gig patch. Also try the fake fullscreen from new vegas run at as administrator and click the last box (something about dpi, I cant remeber). I was getting the texture stuff to and it is due to not enough memory and a memory leak. So make sure u get 4gig patch and fake fullscreen and tell me what happens. Also I would recommend some load order fixes IE: WMX stuff should stick together, are you resorting them after boss? Edited June 30, 2012 by durbin

[Nihilisaurus]

is that the merged patch feature in fnv edit, have I been useing that wrong? I thought you just select all your .esp's and creat a merged patch that you load at the bottom. (you know, I alwase had a feeling I was doing that wrong) please explain, need more info!!

 

No, you're doing that fine. That's what you're meant to do with the feature, but it won't help at the moment (actually, adding the merged patch to your load order at the moment will only make the problem worse).

 

What you need to do is get a utility like FNVPlugin, and merge the mods themselves so you're loading less things, for instance merging all the plugins for single added items (armour, weapons etc) that don't affect much individually, saving it as WeaponsAndArmourMods.esp then loading that one WeaponsAndArmourMods.esp instead of the dozen or so different plugins you had before.

 

The problem is simply that the game engine can only handle so many individual plugins at once, merging them down makes dealing with them simpler for the game and means you can keep all your content without confusing the game and causing the texture/mesh issues.

Edited June 30, 2012 by Lt Albrecht

[durbin]

I nice thing to use for that is Wyre Bash!

[Cyberlazy]

Tell some of those mod authors with too many patch files to use Modfusion

[Dukoth]

ok first, yes I use the 4gb patch

 

but any way, I tested it by deactivating a few mods and it worked, no more glitching so thanks, gonna try out the fnvplugin once I figure it out

 

figures it would be something stupidly easy to fix, it always is..........

 

wait I thought the hard coded limit for the engine was 250 mods, what gives?

 

 

p.s. does any one know whats up with fnv edit by the way, it says it cant open the registry key?