Game Crashing... Again

[LukeTheSpook]

My game seems to keep crashing; during the

Taking Care of Lex thieves guild quest. Right after i get the forged letter; i go to get the stamp for it and every single time i open the door;

it crashes the second i'm in the room

 

heres the mods i have running:

CM Partners.esm

DremoraCompanion.esm

Inventory Tracker.esm

DA Run Fatigue.esm

Oblivion.esm

SewerExpansion.esm

Natural Interiors.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

CM Partners.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Bald_Hairstyle.esp

Border Removal.esp

ND_LongerSummons_x3.esp

Marksman Velocity.esp

haz_encumbrance_x1.5.esp

Deadlier Traps.esp

Visually Enchanted Fire 3.esp

Visually Enchanted Frost 3.esp

Visually Enchanted Shock 3.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

Visually Enchanted Drains 1.esp

Visually Enchanted SoulTrap 1.esp

emperorface.esp

sr_birthsigns_nomax.esp

tag_NaturalWildlife.esp

BadderShockFX.esp

BadderFrostFX.esp

BadderFireFX.esp

DaggerfallBooks.esp

BadderNuclearFireFX.esp

Everlasting Corpses v 1.0.esp

OrcishHelm.esp

EbonyHelm.esp

GlassHelm.esp

Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp

moremerchantmoneyv1.1.esp

za_bankmod.esp

Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp

Landmarks, w Wells.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

BulkyOrcs.esp

oc_darker_nights.esp

BulkyNord.esp

SkingradBridgeLights.esp

HorsesTurnFaster.esp

gardening.esp

Muffin Display Rooms.esp

Arena_BattlesV1.1.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

Days&Months.esp

RealisticForceMedium.esp

Oblivion Cats v0.22b.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

SewerExpansion-Bravil.esp

SewerExpansion-Cheydinhal.esp

Cyrodilic Brandy.esp

agronakimproved.esp

HouseMapMarkers.esp

Cheydinhal Petshop.esp

NPCs Eat More.esp

Crowded Roads 23.esp

Lakewood Village Ver 2.0.esp

RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp

IWR-Windows.esp

IWR-Shutters.esp

IWR-Lights.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

Immortal Horses.esp

Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp

ImmersiveWait.esp

Xero's Fame Indicator.esp

Better Bell Sounds.esp

PlayerHomeNaheema.esp

Menu Time.esp

PersuasionOverhaul.esp

Klarre Forestheart.esp

EshmesBodiesV2.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp

Bjornheim.esp

Knights.esp

mythsandlegends.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

Slof's Oblivion Pillow Book.esp

UnnaturalAura.esp

Tamriel VWD v0.5.esp

Cliff_BetterLetters.esp

SamVimes's Feint Death.esp

Mercenaries.esp

Divine Watch.esp

MyMuseum.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

sgLighterQuivers.esp

Living Economy.esp

Villages1.1.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

RavenviewVillageVer2.0.esp

Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp

RustyItems.esp

P1DcandlesForKleptos.esp

Atmospheric Oblivion.esp

DA ReducedBackwardsRunningSpeed.esp

DA Sprint.esp

Champion's Mansion.esp

Cliff_RankDependantArenaSpectators.esp

Nords With Beards.esp

Quest For The Elements.esp

Dark Dungeons.esp

Cliff_RiskyInnBeds.esp

Aqvatika.esp

Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esp

snowglobe.esp

Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esp

Abecean_lighthouse_1.1.esp

AvaiRii_UnderwaterHome.esp

Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp

Harvest[Containers].esp

Septim Mansion.esp

Weye.esp

Star Ship Orion.esp

ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp

Gypsy Wagon.esp

BravurasBarrel.esp

Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp

Pond Cottage.esp

DremoraCompanion.esp

Abandoned Mania Camp.esp

Jagnot-SI-Summitpoint House.esp

BNewShockBoltEffects20.esp

BNewShockFunnelEffects20.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

Leviathan Soulgems.esp

AnvilBayExpansion.esp

SDsManiaHome.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

SIMushroomHouse.esp

Jagnot-SI-Glimmertop Tower.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

AranMathi.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

FuseSnailRacing.esp

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

P1DKeyChainSI Merged.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

AliveWaters.esp

CT-YABM.esp

Streamline 3.0.esp

100% Harvest Chance.esp

300_Combat Sounds.esp

BMC Hunter Cuirass.esp

RealSwords - Redguard HI.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

_Real_Lights.esp

Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp

Natural Interiors - Cities.esp

Arena Training Center.esp

24hourArena.esp

Slof's Playable Xivilai.esp

DarkIllusionArmor.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

LetThePeopleDrink.esp

The Oak and Crosier Inn Player House.esp

2nd to 1st person.esp

Suliin V1.2.esp

TheMistRetreat1.3_Optimized.esp

WestwatchTowerV1.0.esp

RealisticFatigue.esp

Lem - Celestial Lagoon.esp

Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop II.esp

MountainTower.esp

Lem - The Scar of Sithis.esp

Lem - The Nether.esp

Illicit Estate V1.0.esp

Rogue Sun's Blood Lust Dress.esp

Slof's Dogs.esp

BravilSeaDomes.esp

Better Wine SI.esp

TOTF.esp

movingpaintings.esp

Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp

MidasSpells.esp

bartholm.esp

ActorsInEmotions.esp

Update1-9881.esp

Advanced_Water_Modification-2734.esp

BanditSlaveTrade.esp

unlimiter.esp

borderless.esp

removepersuasuion.esp

Mountaintop Estate.esp

Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp

Slof's Giger Armour.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

Knights of Tamriel.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

BlackLuster.esp

HoarfrostCastle.esp

Slof's Black Unicorn.esp

Slof's Sea Armour.esp

Moriarcis.esp

Slof's Claws.esp

Lamayo's Dragon Bow.esp

DFDiveRockHome.esp

FMan-CustomGate.esp

Apple Mod.esp

Hidden_Lair.esp

JQ-CaptainAmericaShields.esp

Annoying fan.esp

Bandits with Gold.esp

Cathedral Improver.esp

TheElderCouncil.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Brighter_Torches.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

[Michlo]

Deactivate all of your mods and make sure it works.

 

Then activate them one by one until you find the culprit and / or get past that spot in the quest.

 

Good luck.

[billypnats]

w8 24 hours, and see if it still works. if not then try what michlo told you to do

[rhs88]

This may not work, but It might. When was the last time you turned your computer off? Sometimes I get a CTD after opening certain doors and restarting my comp fixes whatever bug was floating around. It also keeps me from deactivating everything.

 

Good Luck.

[ianfreddie07]

You could try rearranging your load order with FCOMHelper. See if that works

[myrmaad]

You could try rearranging your load order with FCOMHelper. See if that works

 

 

Smack me on the head but I'm afraid of fcom helper -- only because I tend to NOT like the most popular mods. I like homes. I like magic. I like decorating. I love clothes. I like Cobl and OBSE. I don't like mighty magic. I do like Supreme Magicka. I don't like deadly reflex. It sucks for a mage/archer. After I installed I lost the ability to zoom in, using the CTRL key. I have to use my r-mouse which irritates me.

 

Discussion on Fcomhelper is welcome, I have an open mind on that, but in the meantime:

Have you checked the conflicts with OBMM? There may be something modifying the same world space as that room.

Then you could simply temporarily turn off that mod while you have to do your thing for the quest.

 

 

 

Anyway. This is what I would do.

 

First, is it crashing on all the recent saves, or just the last one?

 

If you find that it's only crashing on the last one, then you need to think about what mods you added (or deleted) between the saves that work and the saves that crash.

 

I would suggest possibly turning off the mods that you added to the saves that crash.

 

BUT FIRST

 

I cannot stress enough that you should analyze the saves with WRYE BASH. It will tell you if you have any missing masters, it will tell you if there are missing mods that the save is trying to load or access. It has a color coded schema that flags any mod that is causing trouble.

 

Since I have found that turning off all my mods can sometimes lead to problems --

 

like any quest mod that gives you a quest item can sometimes be screwed up by turning it off and on, for example. Nothing pisses me off like that one. That's why I haven't found the Mountain Tower, I lost the letter by turning off a bunch of mods. Then I couldn't get the letter back because the mailbox is empty. I haven't gotten around to finding the letter in the construction set yet, but you get the drift.

 

My opinion is Bash will save you from bashing your head into the ground.

 

If it's only crashing on the most recent save come back and tell us. I have some ideas about that which have worked for me.

[tyreil829]

its very hard to belive that all does mod dont coflict

 

Col John Sheppard

[myrmaad]

its very hard to belive that all does mod dont coflict

 

Col John Sheppard

 

 

I have a lot of conflicting mods as well, actually most mods conflict with Oblivion.esm anyway, they change something from the master, which is technically a conflict.

 

It's just the degree of the conflict that is the balancing act. I probably have as many as this person, I have upwards of 150 or so presently.

[Michlo]

You could try rearranging your load order with FCOMHelper. See if that works

 

 

Smack me on the head but I'm afraid of fcom helper -- only because I tend to NOT like the most popular mods. I like homes. I like magic. I like decorating. I love clothes. I like Cobl and OBSE. I don't like mighty magic. I do like Supreme Magicka. I don't like deadly reflex. It sucks for a mage/archer. After I installed I lost the ability to zoom in, using the CTRL key. I have to use my r-mouse which irritates me.

 

Discussion on Fcomhelper is welcome, I have an open mind on that, but in the meantime:

 

 

Just using the helper tool won't add any of the mods you don't like and it has a fairly extensive database of even some of the lesser known / popular ones so I can't see what harm this could do you.

[myrmaad]

You could try rearranging your load order with FCOMHelper. See if that works

 

 

Smack me on the head but I'm afraid of fcom helper -- only because I tend to NOT like the most popular mods. I like homes. I like magic. I like decorating. I love clothes. I like Cobl and OBSE. I don't like mighty magic. I do like Supreme Magicka. I don't like deadly reflex. It sucks for a mage/archer. After I installed I lost the ability to zoom in, using the CTRL key. I have to use my r-mouse which irritates me.

 

Discussion on Fcomhelper is welcome, I have an open mind on that, but in the meantime:

 

 

Just using the helper tool won't add any of the mods you don't like and it has a fairly extensive database of even some of the lesser known / popular ones so I can't see what harm this could do you.

 

heh heh..

I actually downloaded it, when I was considering using it (not too long ago in fact) and I went through that database file and re-arranged them myself with OBMM based on its content. And yet, still I fear. :D

 

I think it's because I'm kind of a control freak and I don't like things that automate things too much, unless I know exactly what they're automating. Like in real life I won't have a dishwasher, I can wash them just fine myself.