CTD on saves/quick saves/loading into a new area

[a3roflow]

I posted in the Frostfall mod post area, but looking more into the logs, I see that it may be a bigger issue than that. I have been playing around 10+ hours on this new modded playthrough. Used SSEedit when LOOT told me to, and since last night, I haven't been able to use any of my saves to load into a new area or if I try to make a new save it immediately CTD's. I have the log here if anyone could help me determine what happened:

 

CTD Crash

 

Load order as well if you need it:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

254 FE 0 CBBE.esl

7 7 BSAssets.esm

8 8 BSHeartland.esm

9 9 MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm

10 a ApachiiHair.esm

11 b ApachiiHairFemales.esm

12 c ApachiiHairMales.esm

13 d BS_DLC_patch.esp

14 e Campfire.esm

15 f Falskaar.esm

16 10 Wyrmstooth.esp

17 11 YOT - Falskaar.esp

18 12 YOT - Wyrmstooth.esp

19 13 SkyUI_SE.esp

20 14 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

21 15 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

22 16 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

23 17 3DNPC.esp

24 18 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

25 19 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

26 1a TKDodge.esp

27 1b RaceMenu.esp

28 1c RLO - Interiors.esp

29 1d RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp

30 1e RLO - Effects.esp

31 1f RaceMenuPlugin.esp

32 20 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

33 21 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

34 22 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp

35 23 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp

36 24 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

37 25 TrueStormsSE.esp

38 26 DarkerNights.esp

39 27 DarkerNights-BeyondSkyrimBruma.esp

40 28 Character Creation Overhaul.esp

41 29 CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp

42 2a CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp

43 2b CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp

44 2c Better Dynamic Snow.esp

45 2d MajesticMountains.esp

46 2e Better Dynamic Snow - NSUTR Patch.esp

47 2f Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

48 30 Cutting Room Floor.esp

49 31 YOT - Cutting Room Floor.esp

50 32 iNeed.esp

51 33 YOT - iNeed.esp

52 34 AnotherSortingMod_2017-SSE.esp

53 35 YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp

54 36 iNeed - Extended.esp

55 37 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp

56 38 EBT - IC PATCH.esp

57 39 RLO - Exteriors.esp

58 3a Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp

59 3b RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

60 3c SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

61 3d Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

62 3e Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

63 3f MajesticMountains_Moss.esp

64 40 Immersive Weapons.esp

65 41 USSEP-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

66 42 High Level Enemies - SIC SE Edition.esp

67 43 High Level Enemies - SIC SE Edition - Falskaar.esp

68 44 WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp

69 45 TKAA.esp

70 46 Immersive Music.esp

71 47 Run For Your Lives.esp

72 48 Cloaks.esp

73 49 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

74 4a BetterQuestObjectives.esp

75 4b BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp

76 4c SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp

77 4d Immersive Patrols II.esp

78 4e Frostfall.esp

79 4f 1nivWICCloaks.esp

80 50 WetandCold.esp

81 51 Wet&Cold - WaterFix - Addon.esp

82 52 TrueStorms_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp

83 53 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

84 54 3dnpc - Overhual.esp

85 55 3DNPC TKAA Patch.esp

86 56 AMatterOfTime.esp

87 57 DoubleBedsAreForTwoPeople.esp

88 58 Ars Metallica.esp

89 59 S2B Special Edition.esp

90 5a S2BSE Frostfall Addon.esp

91 5b S2BSE Campfire Addon.esp

92 5c Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

93 5d CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp

94 5e NSUTR_bugfixes.esp

95 5f NSUTR_groundsnow_mesh_fixes.esp

254 FE 1 No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp

96 60 NSUTR_improvements.esp

97 61 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

98 62 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

99 63 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp

100 64 Beards.esp

101 65 BlendedRoads.esp

102 66 BSHeartland TKAA Patch.esp

103 67 CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp

CH Bruma_Falskaar Patch.esp

104 68 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

105 69 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

106 6a YOT - Wearable Lanterns.esp

107 6b Chesko_WearableLantern_ASM-SSE.esp

108 6c Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp

109 6d dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

110 6e dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

111 6f DeadlyCombat.esp

112 70 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp

113 71 Dr_Bandolier.esp

114 72 Falskaar TKAA Patch.esp

115 73 FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp

116 74 FireBurns.esp

117 75 FNIS.esp

118 76 FollowerWander2.esp

119 77 Footprints.esp

120 78 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

121 79 iHUD.esp

122 7a Immersive Armor Weapons_ASM-SSE.esp

123 7b ImmersiveUpgradeLeveledItems.esp

124 7c LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp

125 7d IW-LL-Patch-For-SSESW.esp

126 7e SneakSilence.esp

127 7f No Sneak Scream RDO Patch.esp

128 80 PeopleAreStrangers.esp

129 81 Realistic and Balanced Horses.esp

130 82 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp

131 83 RND_BSHeartland.esp

132 84 Skyrim Immersive Creatures_ASM-SSE.esp

133 85 Skyrim Sizes.esp

134 86 SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp

135 87 UnreadBooksGlow.esp

136 88 VioLens SE.esp

137 89 Wyrmstooth_RND_SSE.esp

138 8a XPMSE.esp

139 8b BDS - MM Patch.esp

140 8c RealisticSpeedMovementWalkingSE.esp

141 8d Runandwalkpaces.esp

142 8e Potions.esp

143 8f RealisticNeedsandDiseases_ASM-SSE.esp

144 90 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators_ASM-SSE.esp

145 91 RaBH and STRAP.esp

146 92 Potions Patch.esp

147 93 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp

148 94 YOT - Frostfall Module.esp

149 95 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_ASM-SSE.esp

150 96 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

151 97 YOT - Ordinator.esp

152 98 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

153 99 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp

154 9a YOT - Apocalypse.esp

155 9b S2BSE Apocalypse Spells Addon.esp

156 9c Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon.esp

157 9d Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp

158 9e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

159 9f Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

160 a0 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp

RDO - USSEP Patch.esp

161 a1 CFTO.esp

162 a2 CFTO-Lanterns.esp

163 a3 RaBH and ICAO.esp

164 a4 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp

165 a5 YOT - Wildcat.esp

166 a6 Wildcat-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

167 a7 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

168 a8 RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp

169 a9 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

170 aa RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp

171 ab RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

172 ac WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp

173 ad Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

Thank you for your time.

 

[zeknapain]

Follow the instructions on this page (it's not a file for download) to get campfire and frostfall to work without causing you trouble https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/20608
Follow it to the letter and everything will work perfectly with no ctd it's tested and working

[a3roflow]

Thank you sir! I'll let you know how it goes.

[a3roflow]

I followed the instructions you linked, and so far, loading into a new area didn't cause an auto CTD. Fast travel still does however.

[a3roflow]

Here is a new log for the CTD causing my crashes now.

 

https://paste.ee/p/Ckoxa

[zeknapain]

Hmm it seems to have something to do with followers... :/

One way to check if it is your save that's problematic or the game itself is to use the coc command from the main menu..
Open the console in the main menu with ~ and type in a "move to cell" command for example
coc riverwood
This will bypass your save and load the game dirrectly..
If it loads then try from there to enter another cell with the same way for example
coc dawnstarexterior01 If it also loads fine then it's good news because it's only the save that's corrupted and not the whole game..

[shaelyn76]

so I tried the coc Riverwood and then coc dawnstarexterior01...both loaded fine, but as soon as I started to walk in Dawnstar I CTD. Does that mean that my actual game is borked? Do I need to uninstall Skyrim completely and then reinstall?

(Sorry, jumping in here since I've been having the same issues)

[a3roflow]

So I checked using the coc cells like you said to, everything loaded up fine for all of them. You mentioned it may have been a follower, I used two companions, Lydia and Gorr from another mod, unfollowed lydia so I only had Gorr. For once, I was able to fast travel to whiterun and thought hooray! It fixed it! played for a small amount of time and remembered, "oh I need to do that cell reset because I updated Skyrim Immersive Creatures. I did what it said on the page:

 

"Due to a couple of fixes having to modify the main .esp this is a direct overwrite\replacement esp fix of the Skyrim Immersive Creatures plugin!

Update instructions:

1. Install the files from this page over the files from the original mod.
2. Choose yes to overwrite all if asked.
3. Load up your saved game after installing these files and then perform a cell reset.

A cell reset is mandatory when using this: <---- Not when starting a new game!
Using the command console (Tap the tilde "~" key in game)

Enter commands for the reset:

• setgs iHoursToRespawnCell 1
• setgs iHoursToRespawnCellCleared 1

Then wait in game for a minute or two:

Then re-apply the vanilla settings:

• setgs iHoursToRespawnCell 240
• setgs iHoursToRespawnCellCleared 720

After which I attempted to save it annnnnnd? CTD

My log is 27mb long, so there's no way I can show that. Should I just get rid of Immersive Creatures since it's an auto CTD when I do that procedure?

[zeknapain]

@a3roflow There have been many reports of ctd with the Immersive creatures mod (I don't use it so I don't know the details) especially on fast travel.. The previous week there was another user with ctd caused by that mod so I advise to skip it for now. (There are many popular mods in the nexus used by thousands of people that are bug ridden messes e.g Immersive Citizens, Immersive patrols, Enhanced Blood etc. My personal advice is regardless of how good they make the game to not use them in favor of a stable game that doesn't crash)

@shaelyn76 No it doesn't mean you have to re-install the game it just means that it's not a problem with a specific save but rather with your mods in general.. Are you maybe using Immersive creatures too?