enough is enough

[Shadowcran]

First of all, I'm a traditionalist when it comes to armor. I like the medieval feel and don't like to go flashy. But....

 

That's just me. My likes and tastes are not for everyone, indeed not for the vast majority of the world. The armors that seem to grate on other traditionalist's nerves do appeal to some players. Let's face it, Oblivion is one of the first games where characters actually look more realistic. It's a canvas for some to create on. Look at nudity on other games and systems....looks retarded doesn't it? (I can't help remembering Custer's Revenge for Atari, you dodge hails of arrows to rape an indian girl tied to a cactus)

 

These that are creating the 'skimpy' mods are just being creative and since some players do appreciate them, they deserve to be here. I will say once again..what we need are subdivisions for all the categories.

[Jntk]

lol you have a 'Sam Vimes' view of armor Shadow.

 

yeah I'm not too fond of all those skimpy style armors which would be as affective in battle as just wearing nothing (which is usally only about 3 square inches of material differences). but i't is a free country and people have the right to upload what ever they like and worked on

[SickleYield]

More male armours/clothes please for the metro-sexual oblivion players

 

I mod for UFF/Robert's Average. I make outfits that cover or reveal EXACTLY the same amount on both sexes, and I like graceful clothing; this results in some fairly metro-looking male outfits.

 

My Syntyche's Cavern armor shop is here.

 

As for the debate at large:

 

If you don't like what's available, make your own. (Those with physical incapacities are excluded from this statement, but are certainly a small minority compared to the lazy.) I started out when there was NO tutorial for .nif export for Blender, and the required workaround was much scarier than it is now. My first items sucked - one set of armor even made it onto a SomethingAwful list of worst Oblivion mods - but they were a necessary step on the way to making decent content.

 

I do not make or use bikini-or-less armors for either sex. But I respect no less for that the skills and generosity of those who make them, especially Exnem and the much-put-upon AlienSlof.

 

With regard to the idea of categorization by how much things reveal - not necessarily a bad idea, but I don't care to see my items grouped either with the skimpy stuff or with the full-on historical barrels-made-of-tin. I don't make either of those things.

[Blackguard666]

BEGIN RANT

 

What I find irritating are people that think mods should only be created and released that appeal to just them.

 

What does it matter if 20 mods are released each day and only one of them is something you like. That is a NEW mod EACH day for FREE. Count your lucky stars. I have a LOT of games that do not enjoy such a large modding community where there are so many mods that it seems difficult to wade through all the options to find what I am looking for. Would you rather see the entire modding community slow down? Guess what...a slowdown in the number of mods released does not impact the type or perceived quality of mods that remain.

 

I do not really care for unrealistic and skimpy male or female armor (clothing is a bit different though. ;) ) but you are not going to see me belittle anyone's mod that fits that category.

 

The fact of the matter is that if you want a particular type of mod, you have to create it. The more people that like the same things as you that also create and release mods will increase those types of mods being released.

 

Modders create what they want and if it doesn't happen to be your "thing" then you have the choice of creating things yourself or wait for somebody else to make what you like. You cannot (effectively) wave a stick around and tell people what they should create or should not release.

 

You might also want to try wearing the modder's shoes for a minute. Do YOU think that you can pick up a 3D modeling tool, create new armor, rig it to a skeleton where it does not clip, create textures, normal maps, glow maps, menu icons, quest adventure that is compatible with everything and difficult enough to present a challenge to anyone but not too difficult that would cause it to be irritating...then package the mod into an archive, include a detailed readme, awesome screenshots like no other artist can do, upload it to several mirror sites, create a RELz Thread and then provide tech support for troubleshooting problems and creating bug fixes? Oh, and let's not forget about the armor needing to be uber cool-looking so you don't get any comments like "this is really pathetic" which would hurt your feelings since you put so much time and effort into realizing this mod and then sharing with the public for free.

 

/END RANT

 

LHammonds

 

Couldn't of said that better myself.

 

@OP:

You have to understand something about most fantasy RPGs: The females are the driving force for player characters, in a genre of games that is dominated my men. What it is the whole "escape from reality" thing. You will NEVER find a woman who looks hot, has the personality you truly desire, is tough both physically and mentally, wears skimpy armor and does not have low self esteem about it, and does not carry any access baggage, or talk intently about her ex.

 

This is what most of us guy players look for. Its demand, just like in a sporting goods store. There are male armor mods out there, and they are decent and yes...free. These modders have a tough job making and sharing them, so cut them some slack. And BTW: it's not just Oblivion that has mainly female, skimpy armors. It's the whole fantasy genre. It just comes with the territory.