Trying Vortex and having problems already

[MarkusTay]

I've only been playing F4 on PC since late Sept., and when I first started I used MM2 (actually, I just used the Bethesda site at first but stopped that right away). IIRC, "it just worked". I don't recall having to do anything special other than maybe point it to Steam.

 

Now, I've already had to do several additional steps trying to setup Vortex (it doesn't appear capable of finding anything on its own). Anyhow, I got rid of all the red warning thingies and it looked good to go. I tried downloading (REdownloading, really) a mod to test it out so I can start putting my game back together. The Nexus page told me it couldn't find an associated app.

 

So Nexus can't find Vortex? Funny... it found MO2 automatically. I am already having reservations.

 

EDIT: I just now realized that it was Firefox not knowing what to do with the file. Since I never had to do anything like that with MO2, I assume its because Firefox had no previous settings in this regard back when I setup MO2, and now it couldn't find where they used to go (so I am giving Vortex the benefit of the doubt on this one). Still, at every step I feel its very counter-intuitive.

 

Anyhow, it appears I downloaded my first mod. Can someone please tell me where it went, because i don't see it in Vortex (even though I pointed to the Vortex.exe in Firefox, as instructed). I also didn't get an error message that time, so it must have gone somewhere. Despite all the problems I have been having with MO2 lately, I am seriously considering just reinstalling it.

[MarkusTay]

Watched the videos THREE times. Even tried having Vortex started by Nexus (that worked perfectly). The mods just never show up anywhere (and certainly not in the folder I have them pointed to). And YES, I have all my permissions set, no 'red flags' anywhere. It appears to be setup perfectly. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.

[Strykewolf]

This is going to sound like a stupid question...but, since it had me going around in circles for an hour before I noticed it...I'll ask any ways.

 

Did you attempt to connect to nexus, from Vortex and through FF, AND authorize the connection?

 

When you boot up vortex and tell it to connect to nexus, it will bring up the browser you have defaulted and connect...the nexus message on the main page changes and asks if you want to allow it (it looks, otherwise, normal). On my screen (laptop 17") it didn't look like anything had changed and FF was being retarded or, Vortex was not communicating, until I panned down looking for a FAQ link, then I saw the authorization request. Once I told the nexus page, through FF, 'yes' or, 'allow', or whatever it was...everything started working fine with Vortex.

[MarkusTay]

The browser will start-up Vortex if I choose to download a mod and Vortex isn't already running. If I go the opposite route and open the browser from Vortex, the browser opens fine to the F4 nexus page. No pop-up asking for permissions occurs. Both programs have my screen name so I'm signed in. Either program will open the other correctly, but then nothing else happens.

 

But thanks for trying - I just restarted everything several times trying to get that pop-up to happen - I really thought that would be it. Oh, and I'm not using Chrome (there seems to be a tiny problem with that, but I don't use it anyway). Everything looks like its working... but its not. When it truly was broken (because I hadn't setup Firefox), I got an error message, but now I don't even get that. I click on the mod and it acts like everything worked, but nothing downloads. I have such rotten luck.

 

I can get mods to work if I download and install them manually, but that is taking FOREVER. I could move them from my (renamed) old Mod Organizer install, but the whole point of this is a 'fresh start', and if any of that is corrupted i don't want to reinstall garbage. The only thing I haven't tried is rebooting the computer (I'm afraid to... bad things happen... LOL), but I may as well try that because maybe Firefox needs that to reset its permissions or something.

 

Thank you again.

[MarkusTay]

Update: I thought maybe today it would "just work" because the comp. was rebooted (so maybe the settings in Firefox would 'stick'), and although its still not working, something interesting DID happen...

 

I found another mod (patch, really) I needed and went to download it, which in turn started up Vortex (as it should), buuuuuuut... once Vortex was fully loaded, after a second or two, my browser popped back on top of it... which indicates something within the browser happened. I almost feel like I was supposed to see that pop-up but it didn't happen.

 

Also, FF=Firefox, doesn't it? Uh-DOH! :tongue:

 

Looks like another day of manually installing mods. I do so miss the clean, elegant, and efficient interface of MM2. After this is all done, I'm going to have to figure out how to reorder stuff, since this cheesy thing over-complicates EVERYTHING.

 

 

EDIT: So now I can't run the game at all, because I have a bunch of 'conflicts' Vortex tells me to resolve. This is the kind of stuff MO2 would just dump in an Overwrite folder and it would "just work". I click on the conflicts, and I can see them, but NOTHING tells me how to resolve them. And someone actually thought THIS SYSTEM was better for 'beginners' at modding? How the heck did the same guy design both? It makes no sense. I was modding 1 hour after downloading MO2 and enjoying my game. I've been at this now for 2+ days and I STILL can't get it working right. I'm going to have to switch back - this is obviously a barely functional pre-alpha.

 

EDIT2: LMAO - Gopher says in his video #4 he'll be covering that subject in the next video... but he never made a video #5. I just can't win. If it wasn't so upsetting it would actually be funny.

[MarkusTay]

Whelp, finally figured it out (after some problems with 'circular permissions'). I only hope all this extra work was worth it in the long run. I've only got about 25% of my mods re-acquired thus-far, and to be perfectly honest, I suppose if I was totally new to modding I wouldn't have been throwing that much at it at once - especially since the mods I first downloaded were all the BIG ones that change how the game itself works. LOTS of conflicts there (26). Looks good now though, on a quick test I did. Now I know to address these permission things as they come up.

 

I also tweaked FF again - I went into settings and I turned on pop-ups and another that was something like 'allow to change files' just for the Nexus site, and now even that's working. I never found that info anywhere on the web, but thanks to Strykewolf's post above, it lead me to the solution, so thanks for that.

 

Cheers