Oblivion - Crashes/Lockups/Freezes

[maYuYang]

Ah, Hi Elys^^,

 

Thank you for your fix, I actually wanted to thank you in person(by PM) but wasn't sure if you use the same Nickname.

 

I have to admit that I didn't have that crash yesterday, thus I didn't hear the siren. But I'm 100% sure that the 1st cause you listed caused my waterfront crashes and some random crashes.

 

You mentioned that you would update your .dll once you find more of those.

Well, I goofed around a little and found 3 more:

 

000dfa7f = causes a crash when loading an old savegame while ingame(I can varify that this line is always the same)

0025c640 = another random crash, that one happened to me in the imperial prison

000026c0 = this one sometimes causes the crash when exiting the game(there's also another line, I will check this evening)

 

However, I'm not sure if you can fix those, since these propably only happen to me. As I mentioned before, I suspect that the CTD are individual and depend on the mod combination and the own play style....

 

 

FFDShow.. I will check if I can disable it somehow. I remember one setting page(of dozens -_-) where you could enable/disable single things, but I'm not sure.

 

 

about Windows XP SP3, I downloaded the final release version(Beta version from MS are just plain bad... Just think of the Vista beta, that sure was a desaster...). But I have to admit that beside some small things, there're no real improvements. Somewhere I read that SP3 is just a compilation of all the old fixes and enhancements.

[MrCooper2006]

Its probably best to get rid of FFDShow unless you actually use it. i.e. for encoding video / watching certain video formats etc.

 

Just to stop it from interferring with anything.

 

 

Also yeah, as Shadow said.

 

Natural Habitat - adds birds/butterflies/insects etc.

Natural Vegetation - Makes the bushes/tress bigger and more foliose (looks better basically)

 

I just use these out of the Natural Environments package and leave the Water and Weather to other mods.

 

Again this is all down to personal choice and what looks best for you tho.

[maYuYang]

Hi MrCooper2006,

 

Hmmm, Sounds like a mod for me^^. I really like butterflies.

 

Ah yes, I remember one more Lockup/Freeze, but this one is somewhat weird. When starting the game, but exiting from the main menu again, Oblivion usually locks up. Then, the menu options disappear, but the background and the music are still playing. I usually have to press the middle mouse button(brings me back to the desktop) to continue using my computer. And this one happens even on Vanilla... Any one experienced the same thing?

[Slytovhand]

I have just done a complete reinstall of vanilla, and have only added the official patch, and now the unofficial patch, and I am getting CTD's - but only when attempting to exit the game, with the compulsory "pls send this to MS" error message.

 

Any thoughts on this?

 

Slyt

 

edit: I should add - my machine is all of 3 weeks old so has very little on it, and is running XP with SP3 freshly installed.

[maYuYang]

I have just done a complete reinstall of vanilla, and have only added the official patch, and now the unofficial patch, and I am getting CTD's - but only when attempting to exit the game, with the compulsory "pls send this to MS" error message.

 

I think it's the same what I have. You exit the game from the main menu, right? If that happens ingame, something is wrong.

[Slytovhand]

I have just done a complete reinstall of vanilla, and have only added the official patch, and now the unofficial patch, and I am getting CTD's - but only when attempting to exit the game, with the compulsory "pls send this to MS" error message.

 

I think it's the same what I have. You exit the game from the main menu, right? If that happens ingame, something is wrong.

 

 

That's the one! though I just did a quick test on previous saved games - both modded and unmodded... drops out on the modded, fine on the un-modded.

 

Btw - after just reading back the last 5 pages, and thus following up on what Michlo had to say - I download all my mods into a completely seperate folder (as it happens - E:\downloaded mods\oblivion) to make things re-loeading a lot faster! I'd suggest it to other ppl as well.

 

Slyt

[MrCooper2006]

Thats unusual Slyt, try it without the UOP active and see if it still gives the same crash.

 

 

You definitely emptied data folder etc after uninstall?

 

 

EDIT: Yeah as MaYu said this crash is nearly always a sign something is wrong, maybe not something you can see in game, and that would actually damage it, but most likely wil cause a crash somewhere in game at some point.

 

 

 

As i mentioned earlier in this thread - REAL LIGHTS always gives me this crash, regardless of Load Order and whatever other mods i have installed.

[Shadowcran]

Think back to any mods you may have installed that didn't have an esm or esp. perhaps this could be the cause. These are usually sound/graphics/extra textures, etc. I don't know if it'll help, but it can't hurt.

[Thacrudd]

I was getting allot of CDT's with the unofficial Oblivion Patch. I did a fresh install, the UOP, and then USIP and UKOTNP. I just disabled the UOP and the crashes stopped.

 

Be sure and delete your old Oblivion.ini out of the My Games/Oblivion folder when you do a fresh install if you use the delete folder/reg cleaner method. If you have allot of mods running and decide to do a fresh install, any alterations to the old .ini file carried over to a new install would cause an insta-crash for me. (took me a bit to figure out the problem)

 

I had everything up and running including FCOM. If you install Better Cities, be sure and disable the City Defence mod from MMM as it conflicts with BC. Even a conflict as little as that cause me to get more frequent random crashes, even in the SI! I disables City Defences and the random crashes dropped form 20 minutes to no crashes in a 3 hour play session. Be sure and patch BC with The Lost Spires patch as well.

 

For other's future reference, My computer was having a bit of problems with Better Cities (LOTS of lag and lockups). I was able to dramatically increase my FPS and performance by using Streamline. I hope that helps anyone who runs across this.

[MrCooper2006]

Good point Thacrudd -

 

Playing with BC for ME is usually unplayable unless I put Object/Item/NPC distance at 10 or lower. (5th of the bar/slider)

 

Even then it was barely playable. Streamline installed - even the IC Market Distrct runs perfect, with only a minimal drop in visual quality, however, because of the higher FPS it looks better anyway as its smoother.

 

 

EDIT: This of course is worse with Texture Packs installed eg. QTP3. Due to every object added by Better Cties is Qarl'd (made to be 4x its original size). and with something like VWD this will kill your gfx card, possibly even burn it out so be careful.

 

Even my new card with 1gb ram cant handle this, and my old 8600GTS Superclocked with 512mb very nearly fried playing even without MTAEWVD. So be careful!

 

EDIT 2: The above is due to the mods using resources far beyond the Engines original capabilities, which means Oblivion will contine to use resources that your computer may not even have, as in VideoRam, it will keep churning up your card until it breaks because Oblivoin can no longer stop at certain points ie. too much processor use.

 

Whereas on Vanilla these levels of "hunger" couldnt be reached.

 

Just a warning