Game not starting after modding it.

[AureliusOfRome]

Hello!

 

I have a problem with mods again, but this time the load order seems fine, but the game won't start. Skyrim Launcher pops-up I press play, Steam says I'm in game and after a few seconds it just disappears.

 

Here is my load order:

 

 

00 Skyrim.esm
01 Update.esm
02 Dawnguard.esm
03 Hearthfires.esm
04 Dragonborn.esm
05 ccBGSSSE002-ExoticArrows.esl
06 ccBGSSSE010-PetDwarvenArmoredMudcrab.esl
07 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
08 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp [Version 4.1.6]
09 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
0A LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
0B BSAssets.esm
0C BSHeartland.esm
0D arnima.esm
0E BS_DLC_patch.esp
0F Falskaar.esm
10 Gray Fox Cowl.esm
11 TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
12 SkyUI_SE.esp
13 Ducks and Swans.esp
14 3DNPC.esp [Version 3.4.2]
15 Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 3.1.0]
16 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
17 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
18 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
19 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
1A BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp
1B Dragon Stalking Fix.esp
1C ImperialSoldiersEscortFix.esp
1D BSHeartlandFRF.esp
1E Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp [Version v6.6a]
1F Beasts of Tamriel.esp
20 BlackthornManor.esp
21 OBIS SE.esp
22 Phenderix Magic World.esp
23 skyBirds_SSE.esp
24 FloraRespawnFix.esp
25 BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp
26 Man Those Borders!.esp
27 Original Opening Scene.esp
28 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
29 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - No Map Markers.esp
2A Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
2B Point The Way.esp [Version 2.0.4]
2C Holidays.esp
2D Immersive Weapons.esp
2E TheChoiceIsYours.esp
2F Clockwork.esp
30 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
31 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 4.0]
32 Cloaks.esp
33 SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp
34 Ars Metallica.esp [Version 2.0.4]
35 Qw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedAll Patch.esp
36 DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp
37 Phenderix Magic World - Lore-Friendly Patch.esp
38 DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp
39 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged - No Map Markers.esp
3A Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp
3B Immersive Patrols II.esp
3C DBM_IW_Patch.esp
3D Vigilant.esp
3E Tools of Kagrenac.esp
3F DBM_TOK_Patch.esp
40 MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp
41 DBM_MAS_Patch.esp
42 DBM_IA_Patch.esp
43 1nivWICCloaks.esp [Version 2.4]
44 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp [Version 2.4]
45 SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp
46 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
47 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
48 Ars Metallica - LSC Patch.esp
49 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
4A ElysiumEstate.esp
4B DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
4C notice board.esp
4D WheelsOfLull.esp
4E ForgottenCity.esp
4F OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp
50 DBM_Vigilant_Patch.esp
51 treasure_hunt.esp
52 Missives.esp
53 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
54 DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp
55 Notice Board MCM.esp
56 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 2.0]
57 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
58 VioLens SE.esp [Version 2.2]
59 BooksBooksBooks.esp
5A DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp
5B DBM_BBB_Patch.esp
5C DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp
5D Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp
5E DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp
5F DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp
60 DBM_TreasureHunt_Patch.esp
61 DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
62 DBM_HA_Patch.esp
63 Dr_Bandolier.esp
64 TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn and Bags and Pouches Addon.esp
65 Vigilant Voiced.esp
66 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
67 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
68 Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
69 Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_USSEP Patch.esp
6A DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp
6B Qw_ArsMetallica_FloraRespawnFix Patch.esp
6C BCS_TCIY_Patch.esp
6D AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00]
6E DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp
6F HoldBorderBanners.esp
70 Ravengate.esp
71 Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp
72 DGE_PCIorLSC_Patch.esp
73 Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
74 Qw_DucksAndSwans_USSEP Patch.esp
75 OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
76 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
77 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
78 Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
79 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
7A Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon.esp
7B Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
7C EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
7D EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
7E Inigo.esp
7F Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

Everything is enabled, except HelgenReborn.esp and the DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp due to me wanting to start a new game.

 

Any help is appreciated!

 

EDIT: A few new mods installed. Including the Official Immersive Creatures Patch and the Unofficial Wheels of Lull Patch.

 

New load order:

 

 

00 Skyrim.esm
01 Update.esm
02 Dawnguard.esm
03 Hearthfires.esm
04 Dragonborn.esm
05 ccBGSSSE002-ExoticArrows.esl
06 ccBGSSSE010-PetDwarvenArmoredMudcrab.esl
07 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
08 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
09 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp [Version 4.1.6]
0A LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
0B BSAssets.esm
0C BSHeartland.esm
0D arnima.esm
0E BS_DLC_patch.esp
0F Falskaar.esm
10 Gray Fox Cowl.esm
11 TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
12 SkyUI_SE.esp
13 Ducks and Swans.esp
14 3DNPC.esp [Version 3.4.2]
15 Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 3.1.0]
16 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
17 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
18 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
19 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
1A BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp
1B Dragon Stalking Fix.esp
1C ImperialSoldiersEscortFix.esp
1D BSHeartlandFRF.esp
1E Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp [Version v6.6a]
1F Beasts of Tamriel.esp
20 BlackthornManor.esp
21 OBIS SE.esp
22 Phenderix Magic World.esp
23 skyBirds_SSE.esp
24 FloraRespawnFix.esp
25 BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp
26 Man Those Borders!.esp
27 Original Opening Scene.esp
28 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
29 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - No Map Markers.esp
2A Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
2B Point The Way.esp [Version 2.0.4]
2C Holidays.esp
2D Immersive Weapons.esp
2E TheChoiceIsYours.esp
2F Clockwork.esp
30 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 4.0]
31 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
32 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
33 Cloaks.esp
34 SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp
35 Ars Metallica.esp [Version 2.0.4]
36 Qw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedAll Patch.esp
37 DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp
38 Inigo.esp
39 Phenderix Magic World - Lore-Friendly Patch.esp
3A DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp
3B Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged - No Map Markers.esp
3C Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp
3D Immersive Patrols II.esp
3E DBM_IW_Patch.esp
3F Vigilant.esp
40 Tools of Kagrenac.esp
41 DBM_TOK_Patch.esp
42 MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp
43 DBM_MAS_Patch.esp
44 DBM_IA_Patch.esp
45 1nivWICCloaks.esp [Version 2.4]
46 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp [Version 2.4]
47 SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp
48 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
49 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
4A Ars Metallica - LSC Patch.esp
4B IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
4C BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
4D DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp
4E BSHeartland - Unofficial Patch.esp
4F ElysiumEstate.esp
50 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
51 notice board.esp
52 ForgottenCity.esp
53 OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp
54 DBM_Vigilant_Patch.esp
55 WheelsOfLull.esp
56 treasure_hunt.esp
57 Missives.esp
58 Notice Board MCM.esp
59 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 2.0]
5A BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
5B VioLens SE.esp [Version 2.2]
5C BooksBooksBooks.esp
5D DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp
5E DBM_BBB_Patch.esp
5F DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp
60 Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp
61 DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp
62 DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp
63 DBM_TreasureHunt_Patch.esp
64 DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
65 DBM_HA_Patch.esp
66 Dr_Bandolier.esp
67 TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn and Bags and Pouches Addon.esp
68 Vigilant Voiced.esp
69 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
6A Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
6B Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
6C Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_USSEP Patch.esp
6D DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp
6E Qw_ArsMetallica_FloraRespawnFix Patch.esp
6F BCS_TCIY_Patch.esp
70 AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00]
71 DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp
72 HoldBorderBanners.esp
73 OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
74 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
75 BSHeartland - Arnima Patch.esp
76 Ravengate.esp
77 Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp
78 DGE_PCIorLSC_Patch.esp
79 Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
7A Qw_DucksAndSwans_USSEP Patch.esp
7B WheelsOfLull - Forgotten City - Bruma Patch.esp
7C Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
7D Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
7E Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
7F Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
80 Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon.esp
81 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
82 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

EDIT 2: Changed some mods order. Probaly nothing major, just a little tweaking.

 

Even newer load order:

 

 

00 Skyrim.esm
01 Update.esm
02 Dawnguard.esm
03 Hearthfires.esm
04 Dragonborn.esm
05 ccBGSSSE002-ExoticArrows.esl
06 ccBGSSSE010-PetDwarvenArmoredMudcrab.esl
07 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
08 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp [Version 4.1.6]
09 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
0A LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
0B BSAssets.esm
0C BSHeartland.esm
0D arnima.esm
0E BS_DLC_patch.esp
0F Falskaar.esm
10 Gray Fox Cowl.esm
11 TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
12 SkyUI_SE.esp
13 Ducks and Swans.esp
14 3DNPC.esp [Version 3.4.2]
15 Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 3.1.0]
16 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
17 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
18 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
19 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
1A BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp
1B Dragon Stalking Fix.esp
1C ImperialSoldiersEscortFix.esp
1D BSHeartlandFRF.esp
1E Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp [Version v6.6a]
1F Beasts of Tamriel.esp
20 BlackthornManor.esp
21 OBIS SE.esp
22 Phenderix Magic World.esp
23 skyBirds_SSE.esp
24 FloraRespawnFix.esp
25 BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp
26 Man Those Borders!.esp
27 Original Opening Scene.esp
28 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
29 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - No Map Markers.esp
2A Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
2B Point The Way.esp [Version 2.0.4]
2C Holidays.esp
2D Immersive Weapons.esp
2E TheChoiceIsYours.esp
2F Clockwork.esp
30 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 4.0]
31 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
32 Cloaks.esp
33 SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp
34 Ars Metallica.esp [Version 2.0.4]
35 Qw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedAll Patch.esp
36 DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp
37 Phenderix Magic World - Lore-Friendly Patch.esp
38 DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp
39 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged - No Map Markers.esp
3A Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp
3B Immersive Patrols II.esp
3C DBM_IW_Patch.esp
3D Vigilant.esp
3E Tools of Kagrenac.esp
3F DBM_TOK_Patch.esp
40 MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp
41 DBM_MAS_Patch.esp
42 DBM_IA_Patch.esp
43 1nivWICCloaks.esp [Version 2.4]
44 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp [Version 2.4]
45 SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp
46 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
47 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
48 Ars Metallica - LSC Patch.esp
49 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
4A BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
4B DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp
4C BSHeartland - Unofficial Patch.esp
4D ElysiumEstate.esp
4E DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
4F notice board.esp
50 ForgottenCity.esp
51 OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp
52 DBM_Vigilant_Patch.esp
53 WheelsOfLull.esp
54 treasure_hunt.esp
55 Missives.esp
56 Notice Board MCM.esp
57 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 2.0]
58 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
59 VioLens SE.esp [Version 2.2]
5A BooksBooksBooks.esp
5B DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp
5C DBM_BBB_Patch.esp
5D DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp
5E Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp
5F DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp
60 DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp
61 DBM_TreasureHunt_Patch.esp
62 DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
63 DBM_HA_Patch.esp
64 Dr_Bandolier.esp
65 TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn and Bags and Pouches Addon.esp
66 Vigilant Voiced.esp
67 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
68 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
69 Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
6A Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_USSEP Patch.esp
6B DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp
6C Qw_ArsMetallica_FloraRespawnFix Patch.esp
6D BCS_TCIY_Patch.esp
6E AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00]
6F DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp
70 HoldBorderBanners.esp
71 OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
72 BSHeartland - Arnima Patch.esp
73 Ravengate.esp
74 Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp
75 DGE_PCIorLSC_Patch.esp
76 Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
77 Qw_DucksAndSwans_USSEP Patch.esp
78 WheelsOfLull - Forgotten City - Bruma Patch.esp
79 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
7A Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
7B Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
7C Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
7D Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon.esp
7E Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
7F Inigo.esp
80 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
81 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
82 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

Edited January 6, 2019 by tothmark0529

[zeknapain]

Are you starting the game through skse64 launcher or the normal one?

[AureliusOfRome]

Are you starting the game through skse64 launcher or the normal one?

I tried to start it through the skse64_loader.exe and also the normal Skyrim launcher, but neither works. SKSE properly installed and it's engine fixes also. No error message. Can't even get to the Bethesda logo.

Edited January 6, 2019 by tothmark0529

[AureliusOfRome]

Deleting Steam cache also did nothing. I'm beginning to suspect some of the mods may be the trouble.

[zeknapain]

If the game doesn't even launch that's usually a missing master file, or more rarely a HUGE mod conflict..
I couldn't spot something on your list though.. Have you tried the simple fixes first? like verifying your game files in steam?

[AureliusOfRome]

Nope, verified game files, still the same. However I noticed if I use the SkyrimSELauncher and press start, sometimes it pops-up again. I click it again and the problem is still the same.

Edited January 6, 2019 by tothmark0529

[AureliusOfRome]

I also made sure every file is for SE not for Oldrim. The thing is If I delete the plugins.txt it disables all mods and works fine, but if I check every mod on again, It doesn't work. Could changing the graphics settings work?

 

EDIT: Nope, set to the lowest settings, still a problem. I could just run this game and Fallout 4 on medium (even high) with some lag, but playable. I still suspect some of the mods may be buggy or crash prone, albeit it could be my computer, but that is less likely.

 

EDIT 2: I read that Immersive Creatures may cause problems, but I have disabled it and it still doesn't work.

Edited January 8, 2019 by tothmark0529

[Algabar]

I don't see anything obviously wrong in your load order either. But TBH I don't know all of the mods you're using, so maybe I've overlooked something.

 

So, its more or less guesswork and "the usual routines":

 

- Make sure you got the current version of SKSE. The version of SKSE must fit the version of the game.

- Check mods depending on SKSE for updates. "Crash on black screen" scenarios are often caused by outdated mods depending on SKSE.

- If everything else fails: Start with an unmodded vanilla game. Then get SKSE up and running. Now add your mods one by one, until you experience problems again. Troubleshoot the mod(s) you added last (or don't use them).

 

On a side node: What mod manager are you using? If not on Vortex, use LOOT: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1918 Have a close look at warnings LOOT might give you.

 

Good luck!

[AureliusOfRome]

I don't see anything obviously wrong in your load order either. But TBH I don't know all of the mods you're using, so maybe I've overlooked something.

 

So, its more or less guesswork and "the usual routines":

 

- Make sure you got the current version of SKSE. The version of SKSE must fit the version of the game.

- Check mods depending on SKSE for updates. "Crash on black screen" scenarios are often caused by outdated mods depending on SKSE.

- If everything else fails: Start with an unmodded vanilla game. Then get SKSE up and running. Now add your mods one by one, until you experience problems again. Troubleshoot the mod(s) you added last (or don't use them).

 

On a side node: What mod manager are you using? If not on Vortex, use LOOT: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1918 Have a close look at warnings LOOT might give you.

 

Good luck!

Okay, I'm going the check out the mods. I report back if the issue persists or the issue solves. I'm grateful for your help!

 

Also, LOOT just gives bunch of ITM record warnings, but the SSEEdit doesn't find anything. Also don't wanna clean anything that might break the mods.

 

EDIT 1: arnima.esm not letting the game start, but Falskaar not causing any problems. Probably not a problem with big mods, just crash prone ones. (Solved: Same as Gray Fox Cowl)

 

EDIT 2: Gray Fox Cowl also not launching game and problematic. (Solved: Had the Oldrim version somehow, replaced it with the SE one works again.)

 

EDIT 3: Heavy Armory is a problem too. (Solved: Same as the two above.)

 

EDIT 4: Looks like the problem is solved.

Edited January 9, 2019 by tothmark0529

[SSShadowdark]

game not starting after installing the mod :confused: