Loki34 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Not sure where to post this but this morning New Vegas and all my mods were working. I left, came back and now when I start the game the load screen music will play, the screen will go black, and all of the DLCs plus any mods that load with a message like the DLCs when you wake up in Doc mitchell's home load and I click through them. Then all that happens is the main menu music plays and I'm stuck at a black screen and cannot do anything. Any help would be appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted53139156User Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Are you using alternate start by chance? Also post load order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 This is the second Tuesday in the month. MS pushes out system updates starting that day each month. When "things changed" for no obvious reason, that is usually due to some update to the system or drivers; especially if you have it configured to "auto update". * Did you install Steam to it's default location? If so, please see the wiki "Installing Games on Windows Vista+" article for why the original default Steam behavior of installing games to the "C:\Program Files" folder tree was bad (they learned better, and don't do that any more); and why "disabling UAC and running as Administrator" is NOT sufficient, with instructions how to move it. This is the single most important thing you can do to fix and protect yourself against problems in the future. As much of a PITA as that is, it's never going to be any easier than now. System updates often cause issues with games installed to these folder trees. Please see the 'Restoring to "Vanilla"' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article as well. Please see the 'Solutions to Starting the game problems' section of the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" article. The bit about getting the DLC loading messages sounds like you are starting a "New Game" instead of loading a "save game" file. Please see the 'Save-game files' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article and make sure you haven't lost any. -Dubious- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki34 Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 Are you using alternate start by chance? Also post load order.I am not using alternate start. I have it downloaded but have never loaded it. This is the second Tuesday in the month. MS pushes out system updates starting that day each month. When "things changed" for no obvious reason, that is usually due to some update to the system or drivers; especially if you have it configured to "auto update". ^^ I wondered if there was something like this happening. I updated my Nividia drivers but my problem persists. I will try what you suggested and see what happens. Here is my load order: 0 0 FalloutNV.esm 1 1 DeadMoney.esm 2 2 HonestHearts.esm 3 3 OldWorldBlues.esm 4 4 LonesomeRoad.esm 5 5 GunRunnersArsenal.esm 6 6 ClassicPack.esm 7 7 MercenaryPack.esm 8 8 TribalPack.esm 9 9 CaravanPack.esm 10 a SomeguySeries.esm 11 b Run the Lucky 38.esm 12 c ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm 13 d NVInteriors_Core.esm 14 e NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm 15 f More Perks.esm 16 10 More Perks for Dead Money.esm 17 11 FCOMaster.esm 18 12 SaxxonsQuestPack.esm 19 13 Project Nevada - Core.esm 20 14 Project Nevada - Equipment.esm 21 15 ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm 22 16 NVR-Strip.esm 23 17 Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp 24 18 Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp 25 19 More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm 26 1a More Perks for Old World Blues.esm 27 1b More Perks for Companions.esm 28 1c NevadaSkies.esm 29 1d oHUD.esm 30 1e The Mod Configuration Menu.esp 31 1f Centered 3rd Person Camera.esp 32 20 The Weapon Mod Menu.esp 33 21 EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp 34 22 Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp 35 23 Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp 36 24 Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp 37 25 Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp PerkEveryLevel.esp 38 26 NVR-Version_10.esp 39 27 Vurt's WFO.esp 40 28 The Lucky 38 Empire.esp 41 29 NiptonRebuilt.esp 42 2a Primm Reborn.esp 43 2b populatedcasino.esp 44 2c Factions Reloaded Legion.esp 45 2d Novac Reborn.esp 46 2e More Perks Update.esp 47 2f delilah.esp 48 30 WeaponModsExpanded.esp 49 31 WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp 50 32 WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp WMX-FOOKNV-DLCMerged CP.esp WMX-FOOKNV CP.esp 51 33 WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp 52 34 FCO - Delilah.esp 53 35 FCO - GlowingOne.esp 54 36 More Perks for Companions Update.esp 55 37 More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp 56 38 More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp 57 39 Alternative Repairing.esp 58 3a Goodsprings Reborn.esp 59 3b TheInheritance.esp NewVegasBountiesIII.esp Alternative Start.esp 60 3c CourierCacheWSE.esp 61 3d Project Nevada - WMX.esp Project Nevada - WME.esp 62 3e Project Nevada - EVE All DLC.esp 63 3f WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp The Storyteller.esp 64 40 Companion Sandbox Mode3.esp 65 41 NVR-NPCs.esp 66 42 Alternative Repairing - Ultimate Edition.esp 67 43 WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp 68 44 WMX-DeadMoney.esp 69 45 WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp Project Nevada - Old World Blues (No Cyberware).esp 70 46 WMX-HonestHearts.esp 71 47 WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp WMX-FOOKNV-DLCs CP.esp 72 48 WMX-EVE-AllDLC.esp WMX-Arwen_NV_Realism.esp 73 49 WMX-EnergyWeaponsNoTrueIronSightsFix.esp WMX-ShotgunCommando.esp 74 4a Alternative Repairing - NVInteriors Combo Edition.esp 75 4b NewVegasBounties.esp 76 4c NewVegasBountiesII.esp 77 4d IncreasedLegion1_1.esp 78 4e NVR-ELECTRO-CTIY_Patch.esp 79 4f TrooperOverhaul-Dragbody.esp 80 50 NCRTrooperOverhaul.esp 81 51 Ncr more population.esp 82 52 Goodsprings Shack.esp 83 53 Armored Duster.esp 84 54 courierpowerarmor.esp 85 55 More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp 86 56 UnlimitedCompanions.esp 87 57 Alternative Repairing - Additional Campfires.esp 88 58 Alternative Repairing - Breakdown Item Icons.esp 89 59 Alternative Repairing - NVInteriors.esp 90 5a Imp's Timescale Adjuster.esp 91 5b DarNifiedUINV.esp 92 5c Brotherhood and House Alliance.esp NevadaSkies - TTW Edition.esp 93 5d NevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.esp NevadaSkies - Basic Edition.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki34 Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just updated Steam. Now Steam is telling me New Vegas isn't even installed. I'm very confused and about to just clean install everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted53139156User Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 You need to check if the base game will load no mods, and try moving your save files outside their folder somewhere temporarily you can put them back later. If it doesn't load then you likely have an issue with something that was updated non NV wise. If it does you have a mod issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Yeah, Steam has done something weird with it's latest client update. It went through a complete install automatically on me a week or so ago for unknown reasons; just as if the game was not already present or it was an "official" published update (which it wasn't). Didn't ask permission or prompt anything either. Fortunately in my case it put everything in the correct places (outside of the "C:\Program Files" tree on a completely different drive) and had no actual impact upon my game in progress. But scary stuff and irresponsible "big brother" behavior. If you do have your game installed to the "C:\Program Files" tree, might want to uninstall everything and manually install to a new location anyway. Please see the 'Game INI files' and 'Restoring to "Vanilla"' sections of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article first. The following are from the 'Common Game Problems' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article: * Move any "inactive" plugins out of the game "Data" folder. They count against the "plugin cap" because they get loaded by the game engine if found, and can cause "Missing Master" problems. Please see the wiki "Missing Masters" article if you get that error message. If those plugins without the "mod index" numbers are "deactivated by the "Bash Patch", then you failed to have them "ghosted" by "Wrye Bash/Flash" when you built your "Bashed Patch". Please see the wiki "Bashed Patch file with Marked Mergeables" article.* Don't install every optional file for a mod. Read the install instructions carefully. Optional files need to be selected on a "case by case" basis. For example: with any mod you usually only need one ESP (and possibly one ESM) "base" file depending upon whether you have all the DLCs active or not. Only if you don't have them all active do you need to install any specific DLC versions if there is an "Ultimate Edition/All/Merged DLC" version.* "Compatibility patches" to make one mod work with another need to be placed after (as in "physically lower, higher numbered") in the "load order" than ALL of the plugins they are designed to make compatible. ESMs should always be placed at the top (lowest numbered) positions in the "load order", followed by the related ESPs though they can be separated from their ESMs by other plugins. "LOOT" does a good job of determining those basic orders. Getting the "load order" incorrect will cause "Missing Masters" errors as well. FYI: The "pre-order packs" (aka "POPs": Caravan, Classic, Mercenary, and Tribal; available now in the "Courier's Stash" addon), are not considered "true DLC expansions" by most mods and "compatibility patches" because they just add certain unique items. So their absence should not deter you from using "All DLC Merged" plugins. Where they are included, they should come after "GunrunnersArsenal.ESM" which is a true DLC expansion. When in doubt, follow the process in the wiki "Missing Masters" article to confirm they are not "master files" for that plugin.* Don't install compatibility patches for mods you do not have installed/active (e.g. get rid of any "TTW" patches if you aren't running TTW).-Dubious- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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