StayFrosty05 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) I have been having hell with my game trying to trouble shoot and find my way to the source of a problem I'm having....My Dovahkin does the stands frozen on his mount when I try mounted combat and he does the same frozen position when I try the ASX or the minilovers. What I have done to trouble shoot, I have completely scrubbed my system of the AP (Animated Prostitution) ran searches through the tool bars, clean saves, manually gone through reading every line in every file looking for anything insidious...have also done this with the Dance of Death Mod and updated it to the 1.6 compatible version with a clean save....have posted for feed back in every animation mod I have (not many)...thoroughly deleted the one mod I had no feedback from and still the problem persists...I was able to use the Mounted Combat just a few weeks ago (downloading the Temptress Race for my hubby seems to have started this avalanche for me, though that mod has been completely erased since also).....I am thinking, the trouble with the mounted combat and the ASX and minilovers is related, the same issue being the cause....I just can't find what the issue is....granted my know how is extremely limited....I'm Tech-no-logic... :( I am thinking of extreme measures to try and correct these issues....I'm considering completely deleting and scrubbing my system clean of all but the one mod I can't install myself (Fores Idles)....would prefer to leave SKSE in place too....and the male body mod....and possibly re-installing Skyrim, if need be?...The just slowly feeding my most loved mods back in until I find the source of the issue...and hope and pray it is not the Fores or the SKSE....Is this the only real option I have with my limited knowledge? Sincerely....Frosty Edited July 19, 2012 by StayFrosty05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackNitro Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) I have been having hell with my game trying to trouble shoot and find my way to the source of a problem I'm having....My Dovahkin does the stands frozen on his mount when I try mounted combat and he does the same frozen position when I try the ASX or the minilovers. What I have done to trouble shoot, I have completely scrubbed my system of the AP (Animated Prostitution) ran searches through the tool bars, clean saves, manually gone through reading every line in every file looking for anything insidious...have also done this with the Dance of Death Mod and updated it to the 1.6 compatible version with a clean save....have posted for feed back in every animation mod I have (not many)...thoroughly deleted the one mod I had no feedback from and still the problem persists...I was able to use the Mounted Combat just a few weeks ago (downloading the Temptress Race for my hubby seems to have started this avalanche for me, though that mod has been completely erased since also).....I am thinking, the trouble with the mounted combat and the ASX and minilovers is related, the same issue being the cause....I just can't find what the issue is....granted my know how is extremely limited....I'm Tech-no-logic... :( I am thinking of extreme measures to try and correct these issues....I'm considering completely deleting and scrubbing my system clean of all but the one mod I can't install myself (Fores Idles)....would prefer to leave SKSE in place too....and the male body mod....and possibly re-installing Skyrim, if need be?...The just slowly feeding my most loved mods back in until I find the source of the issue...and hope and pray it is not the Fores or the SKSE....Is this the only real option I have with my limited knowledge? Sincerely....Frosty You could try deactivating all of your animation mods. Do it either through the Nexus Mod Manager under the "mods" tab, or, if you didn't use NMM to install them, by unpacking Skyrim - Animations.bsa to a separate folder (install this - It can be used to open and extract .bsa files) and then copying them and overwriting whatever is in your data folder. The animations are contained within data\meshes, I believe, so it should overwrite whatever's in there. If that doesn't fix the problem, you can always reinstall them, assuming you have the original downloads. Edited July 19, 2012 by JackNitro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayFrosty05 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 You could try deactivating all of your animation mods. Do it either through the Nexus Mod Manager under the "mods" tab, or, if you didn't use NMM to install them, by unpacking Skyrim - Animations.bsa to a separate folder (install this - It can be used to open and extract .bsa files) and then copying them and overwriting whatever is in your data folder. The animations are contained within data\meshes, I believe, so it should overwrite whatever's in there. If that doesn't fix the problem, you can always reinstall them, assuming you have the original downloads. I use NMM....though I do know that even when deleting in the NMM, some mods like the AP can still leave residue files in the system...I will have a look at the link though and maybe be able to work it out...thank you... :happy: ...As for the original downloads, do I need the originals?....Wouldn't a fresh download be a safer option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackNitro Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) You could try deactivating all of your animation mods. Do it either through the Nexus Mod Manager under the "mods" tab, or, if you didn't use NMM to install them, by unpacking Skyrim - Animations.bsa to a separate folder (install this - It can be used to open and extract .bsa files) and then copying them and overwriting whatever is in your data folder. The animations are contained within data\meshes, I believe, so it should overwrite whatever's in there. If that doesn't fix the problem, you can always reinstall them, assuming you have the original downloads. I use NMM....though I do know that even when deleting in the NMM, some mods like the AP can still leave residue files in the system...I will have a look at the link though and maybe be able to work it out...thank you... :happy: ...As for the original downloads, do I need the originals?....Wouldn't a fresh download be a safer option? Unless the original downloads were corrupted in some way [unlikely], then you'd just be downloading the exact same stuff you already have. All the mods downloaded directly through the mod manager should be stored in a mod folder - mine are in G:\Games\Skyrim\mods (yours will probably be C:\Games\Skyrim\mods). To be clear, these are the archives that hold compressed copies of the files for your mods - they aren't the actual working mods. When you install a mod, it simply duplicates the files contained within the mod's archive and places the copies in your skyrim\data folder. It's sort of like how when you download a program and run the installation file, the installation file will still be there afterwards. Though if you have NMM, the .bsa method I mentioned should be a last resort. I assume you know better than to just untick the esp/esm for a mod if you want it gone? You go to the "mods" tab and select the mod, then click the "deactivate" button. But I can't imagine any mods leaving residue files that would affect the game in any way, probably just readme's or setting files. If AP really does leave behind files that affect the game, I'd highly recommend ridding yourself of that mod; it sounds rather insidious, and I'm not just talking about the sleaziness... Edited July 19, 2012 by JackNitro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayFrosty05 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) You could try deactivating all of your animation mods. Do it either through the Nexus Mod Manager under the "mods" tab, or, if you didn't use NMM to install them, by unpacking Skyrim - Animations.bsa to a separate folder (install this - It can be used to open and extract .bsa files) and then copying them and overwriting whatever is in your data folder. The animations are contained within data\meshes, I believe, so it should overwrite whatever's in there. If that doesn't fix the problem, you can always reinstall them, assuming you have the original downloads. I use NMM....though I do know that even when deleting in the NMM, some mods like the AP can still leave residue files in the system...I will have a look at the link though and maybe be able to work it out...thank you... :happy: ...As for the original downloads, do I need the originals?....Wouldn't a fresh download be a safer option? Unless the original downloads were corrupted in some way [unlikely], then you'd just be downloading the exact same stuff you already have. All the mods downloaded directly through the mod manager should be stored in a mod folder - mine are in G:\Games\Skyrim\mods (yours will probably be C:\Games\Skyrim\mods). To be clear, these are the archives that hold compressed copies of the files for your mods - they aren't the actual working mods. When you install a mod, it simply duplicates the files contained within the mod's archive and places the copies in your skyrim\data folder. It's sort of like how when you download a program and run the installation file, the installation file will still be there afterwards. Though if you have NMM, the .bsa method I mentioned should be a last resort. I assume you know better than to just untick the esp/esm for a mod if you want it gone? You go to the "mods" tab and select the mod, then click the "deactivate" button. But I can't imagine any mods leaving residue files that would affect the game in any way, probably just readme's or setting files. If AP really does leave behind files that affect the game, I'd highly recommend ridding yourself of that mod; it sounds rather insidious, and I'm not just talking about the sleaziness... Yes, sadly there are a few mods with that issue....has something to do with the scripting in old saves for some and for others it's a hidden file that just doesn't like to move on....The problem may have been located, I had posted this same question in the Fores Idles thread and Fores had me run a search for an AP behavior file that can get left behind in remnant 1.5 Skyrim files and what he told me to look for has come up, I am just waiting for conformation from him now that I have located the correct file...if so deleting it should solve all these issues I'm having.... :biggrin: ....Fingers crossed.... :happy: ....and thank you so much for your help Jack, I very much appreciate the time and help you have given me.... :happy: ....Funny thing is, I actually understood what you were saying, I have come forward in leaps and bounds in slowly beginning to understand something of the PC system and modding.... :happy: Edited July 19, 2012 by StayFrosty05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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