Crashing only during combat

[Highlord90]

I've been modding Skyrim for a good six years now and it's never been perfect, not once, and I can stomach one or two crashes a day since I'm pretty anal about saving. Sadly I've crashed 3 times today and these crashes have only been happening in combat right before I land a hit which leads to be believe something may be wrong. I honestly think it might be Vortex and how it often gets confused and asks me 'Does Mod A load after or before Mod B?' despite some of them having nothing in common. My Skyrim isn't heavily modded either. No big graphic overhauls, just immersion mods and some fun little bits and pieces. The biggest I have is Beyond Skyrim: Bruma. I do have character model touchups which are RS Children and Total Character Makeover as well.

 

Each crash has also happened right before an attack hit. Here's what I was doing, it's quite precise...Two times while fighting wolves in Whiterun Hold (Arrow Shot at Greenspring Hollow and Axe hit near Redoran's Retreat), once while fighting a vampire Movarth's Lair (Arrow Shot) and once in Ustengrav while fighting some Draugr not long after the Bandit V Necromancers (Dawnbreaker hit). Two of these crashes involved fire and melee and two involved a simple unenchanted arrow shot.

 

I also use the Beth.ini application for better optimization and LOOT to sort my load order.

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
254 FE 0 ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl
5 5 RSkyrimChildren.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 BSAssets.esm
8 8 BSHeartland.esm
9 9 BS_DLC_patch.esp
254 FE 1 Morningstar - Minimalistic Races of Skyrim.esl
10 a SkyUI_SE.esp
11 b Papermaker SE.esp
12 c The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp
13 d WeightOV - Balance - MERGED.esp
14 e RLO - Interiors.esp
15 f Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp
16 10 Better Spell Learning.esp
17 11 Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp
18 12 No NPC Greetings.esp
19 13 SignatureEquipment.esp IT MIGHT BE THIS?
20 14 RaceMenu.esp
21 15 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
22 16 EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp
23 17 RLO - Exteriors.esp
24 18 Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
25 19 FullyEquippedBlacksmiths.esp
26 1a Legionettes SE.esp
27 1b WeightOV - Optional - Lockpick.esp
28 1c WeightOV - Optional - Gold001.esp
29 1d RSChildren.esp
30 1e No Killmoves, No Killcams, No Killbites.esp OR THIS?
31 1f dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
32 20 Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp
33 21 Unique Uniques.esp
34 22 iHUD.esp
35 23 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
36 24 HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp
37 25 HarvestOverhaul_Redone_Creatures.esp
38 26 Visible Favorited Gear.esp
39 27 RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp
40 28 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp MAYBE THIS?
41 29 IHSS.esp
42 2a know_your_enemy.esp
43 2b Eli_RiverwoodShack.esp
44 2c Darkend.esp
45 2d Missives.esp
46 2e The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
47 2f TKDodge.esp I HOPE IT ISN'T THIS :sad:
48 30 Vivid WeathersSE.esp
49 31 Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp
50 32 Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim.esp MAYBE THIS?
51 33 Mortal Enemies.esp OR THIS?
52 34 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
53 35 Character Creation Overhaul.esp
54 36 AMX CCO Andromeda Patch.esp
55 37 CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
56 38 CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
57 39 CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
58 3a SpellResearch.esp
59 3b Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
60 3c Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
61 3d HOR_OrdinatorPatch.esp
62 3e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
63 3f TheChoiceIsYours.esp
64 40 RLO - IC Patch.esp
65 41 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

As I read through this I realised it could be Signature Equipment doing it's thing in the background so I'll try disabiling that and starting again. It's done nothing for me so far anyway as I like gear progression after all.

 

Any help and suggestions would be incredibly helpful!

Edited January 27, 2019 by Highlord90

[phillipjohnmc]

do you run a papyrus log? it might say something at the end that could give a clue, although not always. you could also try opening your save in Resaver (fallrim tools) which might tell you you have some undefined elements in your savegame which can be removed, although that's usually from when you uninstall a mod. but I often check these things when I have a problem to try to narrow things down

Edited January 28, 2019 by phillipjohnmc

[Highlord90]

I got the save game cleaner and it seemed to work fine but once again I crashed right before a hit struck an enemy. I'm thinking it might be Know Your Enemy: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/13807

 

It gives enemies resistances and weaknesses to certain properties and I believe the game crashes right before the hit as the background script is messing up with what should happen when it does hit

[Highlord90]

Grrr, still happening and mainly when I kill wolves!

[Highlord90]

Apparently a setting in the mod Experience can cause CTD's so I'm going to try turning off that setting for a while and see how my game goes.

[Pyro68]

Hi, did Experience was causing you this issue ? I have the same kind of problem, and it's really frustrating !

[TheRecusantX]

Same here except my game freezes right before my hit connects.

[fundy88]

Happening to me too, except mine happens right before a melee attack, arrow strike, or trap hits ME not the enemy. I also have the Experience mod and was wondering if you determined if it was somehow the culprit or another mod?

[Renthal721]

I had the same issue. It bothers me when I finally find someone that has the same issue posts online, then they say they fixed it or have an idea how to fix it, but don't share it. I mean, I searched up the issue for the reason so that others don't have the answer the same question again and again had I posted for help. 

However, I just wanted to share for anyone that needs it. I think I may have solved the issue I was having with the game ctd during combat. It always happened when there was a lot going on, like multiple enemies or lots of magic. 

I also have the experience mod, and I disabled the setting "Use Racial Bonuses" in the MCM. It seems to have stopped my ctd during combat problem. Hopefully that solves the problem (so far so good) and I hope this information can be helpful to someone else! 

 

[Hietanen]

You need to post a crash log with Crash Logger SSE so we can help you analyze the log:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/59818

Generate a log, then post it to pastebin.com for us and give the link.