CTD when starting New Game - Even with all Mods un-ticked

[Deleted25035774User]

I had stopped modding Skyrim for a time, but recently decided to start again. My load order is big, however my PC has been able to handle similarly-sized load orders in the past with no problem.

But now, Skyrim crashes when I try to start a new game. It will stay on the loading screen for a bit, and just as the music loads in, it CTDs. I already tried to optimize my load order in LOOT, I'm using crash fixes, memory patch, safety load and load game CTD fixes. I did what I could with looking for major conflicts in TES5Edit, though I am not very confident with the program right now. I have already uninstalled and reinstalled all of my mods, and I would rather not do that again unless absolutely necessary- it takes a long time with a load order this size.

This is my load order:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esp
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
GeneralDisplays.esm
GeneralDisplays - DB.esm
GeneralDisplays - DG.esm
Campfire.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
SkyUI.esp
MainMenu.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
iHUD.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenuOverlays.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Footprints.esp
Thundering Shouts.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
RLO - Interiors.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
immersive roads.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
JKs Skyrim.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
humans drop human parts.esp
Immersive Jewelry.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
dD-Medium Script Range.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
ISC DeadlySpellImpacts Patch.esp
ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
PPsmallbot.esp
Exhaustion.esp
MoonGlow.esp
Predator Vision.esp
Vampire_NoSunDamage_Hoods&Helmets.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp
proudspiremanortnf.esp
VHTNF.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
Honeyside.esp
ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp
RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
CoT_SnowPatch_HQSnowVersion.esp
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
Immersive Jewelry ISC Patch.esp
Saeri_AetherialCrown.esp
Elemental Destruction.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
Hjerim.esp
RLO - Exteriors.esp
Weathered Road Signs.esp
BHTNF_Eli.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
SoS - Civilization.esp
SLO_StoneWalls.esp
EliAtrociousRiftenTextureFix.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
Blowing in the Wind.esp
Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch.esp
ELFX - Weathers.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
RevampedExteriorFog.esp
ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
ESS Patch for CoT DG Patch.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Holidays.esp
ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp
Tentapalooza.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
Blowing in the Wind - JK's Skyrim Patch.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
NoPsychicLockKnowledge.esp
RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
alesCampBedrollsSupplies.esp
TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
HarvestOverhaul.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
PotionBloodRecipe.esp
P1FlyingRing.esp
Infinite Gold For Merchants.esp
RSChildren.esp
RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp
Beards.esp
Better Females - Eyebrows.esp
Brows.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
FreckleMania2.esp
KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
KJ Lore Tattoos 2K.esp
LoksEyes.esp
RavenWP3.esp
RavenWarpaints.esp
RavensWarpaint2.esp
InnovaEyes.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
Neithteam Warpaint.esp
TW3Eyes.esp
BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp
FNIS.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
Dr_BandolierDG.esp
Immersive Encounters.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Cloaks.esp
SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Unique Grasses.esp
IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp
Marriable Serana.esp
Marriable Serana HF.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp
SL01AmuletsSkyrimDGDB_Outfit_WICSkyCloaks.esp
BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
calyps-animal-ears.esp
VampireJewelry.esp
FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp
FaceMasksforNPC.esp
DrSKnapsacks.esp
KS Jewelry.esp
Nightingale's Ring.esp
VOBS.esp
OCR-Fixes.esp
ScarvesOfSkyrim - Linds.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
HarvestingAnimation.esp
BHWarPaints.esp
CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
EmpyreanCS.esp
LindsMerEyes.esp
LindsHumanEyes.esp
WyldMenuPlugFemale.esp
WyldMenuPlugMale.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
Babette.esp
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
HN66mage4vanilla.esp
Sleeping Innkeepers.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
Bells of Skyrim.esp
Bells of Skyrim - JKs Skyrim Patch.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Weathered Road Signs Patch.esp
FalmerBikini.esp
Immersive Music Temples.esp
Immersive Music.esp
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp
SteelPlateBikini.esp
BVLT - Dark Elf.esp
BandedIronBikini.esp
DragonBoneBikini.esp
Dwarvenbikini.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
CN_Accessories.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
SteelBikini.esp
Wolfbikini.esp
ChrisRichardz Anime Eyes.esp
BladesBikini.esp
BentPines_for_SFO2.0.esp
Real Clouds.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
CWIOrdinatorPatch.esp
Dragon Lilly.esp
TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp
DSmystictails.esp
Amulet of the Divines.esp
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp
TDNEquipableHorns.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp
Celes Nightingale Armor.esp
Witch Of The Wild.esp
CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
ScarletDawnArmor.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
FurSet by keung.esp
VampireLordFlys.esp
Serana.esp
Valerica.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin AIO.esp
Males of Skyrim.esp
SleepTight.esp
getSnowy.esp
getSnowy_WnC-Ashes Patch.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
TERAArmors_CBBE.esp
Choker of Skyrim.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

One other thing I saw suggested was to un-tick my mods and gradually add them back in to try and identify the source of the problem. I first tried to launch my game by un-checking all the plugins I could, but even with only my Skyrim.esm and Update.esm ticked, it still crashed when trying to start a new game- even when using the regular launcher.

I'm guessing this means that my problem is probably with my game's files themselves. However, I don't know how to pinpoint the problem or have a clue on how to fix it.

Any ideas?

[wfandrews]

I would delete your ini files in Documents/My Games/Skyrim, then verify your game files in Steam, if you cleaned your master files you will have to do so again after this. Then launch the game from the Steam launcher, this will create the ini files which you deleted. When you verify your game files one file will always fail to validate, don't worry about it this is just your graphics file which Steam cannot validate then, when you launch the game it will install.

 

Before you do this you should uninstall all your mods except maybe USLEEP.

 

If the game then launches I would play thru to when you exit the cave in Helgen and then make two or three saves. Copy those saves to a folder and then start adding your mods four or five at a time.

 

I usually just play to when the NCP you followed tells me about Bleak Falls Barrow giving him chills, then exit out, add some more mods and do it again. It is a long and tedious process but should give you a stable game in the end.

 

If the first part of this post does not work I would google something like "make Skyrim vanilla again" and you will get links to two or three guides that will tell you how to do so. Any one of those guides will do the job just pick the one you like. Personally I like Avrie's guide but it is a matter of personal preference.

 

With that mod load I would also create a bashed batch.

[Deleted25035774User]

I would delete your ini files in Documents/My Games/Skyrim, then verify your game files in Steam, if you cleaned your master files you will have to do so again after this. Then launch the game from the Steam launcher, this will create the ini files which you deleted. When you verify your game files one file will always fail to validate, don't worry about it this is just your graphics file which Steam cannot validate then, when you launch the game it will install.

 

Before you do this you should uninstall all your mods except maybe USLEEP.

 

If the game then launches I would play thru to when you exit the cave in Helgen and then make two or three saves. Copy those saves to a folder and then start adding your mods four or five at a time.

 

I usually just play to when the NCP you followed tells me about Bleak Falls Barrow giving him chills, then exit out, add some more mods and do it again. It is a long and tedious process but should give you a stable game in the end.

 

If the first part of this post does not work I would google something like "make Skyrim vanilla again" and you will get links to two or three guides that will tell you how to do so. Any one of those guides will do the job just pick the one you like. Personally I like Avrie's guide but it is a matter of personal preference.

 

With that mod load I would also create a bashed batch.

 

Thank you! I've managed to get my game up and running with all mods, and have made it past both the main menu and character creation (in alternate start).

 

A new problem, however, is that Skyrim apparently can't allocate enough memory. Whenever the cart gets close to Helgen, or sometimes sooner than that, the game will minimize and an error message from crashfixes will appear on my screen:

 

"Skyrim has failed to allocate memory! Possibly running out of memory. Size / alignment of object being allocated was 5592590."

 

I am using the memory patch (set to 2048 I believe), and have tried to install lower-resolution versions of textures I do not think are vital. However this issue has persisted. I'm not too sure of the cause or how to fix it.

 

Quick edit: I've fixed my memory issue as well. At this point in time, ENBoost is a must have for a heavily-modded setup in my opinion.

Edited February 1, 2019 by Guest