Frequent CTDs

[sucker123]

I'm experiencing a whole lot of CTDs in certain areas which look like they are caused by not enough memory but my system can handle the game just fine at 58-60 FPS sustained at ultra settings even the moment the actual crash happens.

win7 64bit

i5 3450 3.1 ghz

HD 7850 2GB @ 920/1250

16 gb RAM @ 1333 mhz 9-9-9-24

1680x1050 screen resolution

 

My load order by BOSS:

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Populated Cities NPCListMaster.esm

SkyMoMod.esm

JSwords.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Ranger Ridge.esm

ArmedttTeeth.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

breezehomelightfix.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-VanillaNights-Lvl-2.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

hqsnow.esp

SkyMoMod_lists.esp

Tytanis.esp

AttTWeapons 2.esp

AttTWeapons 3.esp

AttTWeapons 1.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

SkyRe_Plugin_ImmersiveArmor_2.esp

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

AttTJSwords.esp

SkyRe_Plugin_JaySuSSwords_1.3D.esp

private_singular_quivers.esp

LevelersTower.esp

Ranger Ridge.esp

Reaper's The Dark Tower.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

Populated Cities.esp

SkyRe_Vampirism.esp

SeeYouSleepByMadmole.esp

The Dance of Death.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

SkyRe_Lighting.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

zzz_Jenassa_MAKEOVER_by83Willow.esp

Follower Trap Safety.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Basvanbeu MuscleTextureChanger with Navetsea set.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp

WATER.esp

WATER - Get Wet.esp

cartographers map markers.esp

 

 

 

The game never exceeds 1.8GB of RAM or 80% CPU usage so its not even a LAA bug I'm facing. I'm aware that I'm running quite a lot of heavy hitting, but compatible, mods but since they dont really tax my performance, at all, it makes no sense to me to turn them off(which I already did and it didn't help) permanently. I'm experiencing most of the CTDs around lakes, rivers and the forrest with yellow/brown leaves. I know SkyRe_Races conflicts with Armed to the teeth but it's only the skeleton so at most it looks a little weird or is clipping but shouldn't cause a CTD. Just to make it clear, i already went through my list disabling every mod one by one without much success - the game wasn't crashing as often but it still happend to the point where playing on made no sense(every other fast travel instead of every other minute). The save files aren't bloated either @ 7MB size tops and I've disabled auto saves and I create new saves constantly while deleting the old ones. The fragmentation of the game files is under 0.1% so...I'm at my wits end. I've tried everything except a fresh install and going through the whole mod installing shebang again.

 

So, any ideas? Anyone? Please?

[AngelOfPassion]

Have you adjusted your ugrids in the .ini? Doing so with the incorrect multiples can cause serious memory and crashing issues when loading into ram. The formula you should follow if you have adjusted the ugrids is the ugrid to load value +1, then multiply by your result. For example: if your ugrids is set to 7 it would be 7+1=8, 8*8=64. So you should set your exterior cell buffer to 64 if ugrids is 7.

 

Sorry if that doesn't make any sense. I had some issues with crashing and the ini files can really cause some trouble.

 

Also there is this guide that a moderator pointed out to me: http://s1.zetaboards.com/bbenlibrary/topic/4871296/1/#new

 

It is part of a bigger guide outlined here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/bbenlibrary/topic/4751769/1/?x=0#post631601ew

 

Follow those and you will probably find your issue.

Edited July 23, 2012 by AngelOfPassion

[JackNitro]

Have you adjusted your ugrids in the .ini? Doing so with the incorrect multiples can cause serious memory and crashing issues when loading into ram. The formula you should follow if you have adjusted the ugrids is the ugrid to load value +1, then multiply by your result. For example: if your ugrids is set to 7 it would be 7+1=8, 8*8=64. So you should set your exterior cell buffer to 64 if ugrids is 7.

 

Sorry if that doesn't make any sense. I had some issues with crashing and the ini files can really cause some trouble.

 

Also there is this guide that a moderator pointed out to me: http://s1.zetaboards.com/bbenlibrary/topic/4871296/1/#new

 

It is part of a bigger guide outlined here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/bbenlibrary/topic/4751769/1/?x=0#post631601ew

 

Follow those and you will probably find your issue.

 

I would strongly advise against adjusting uGrids unless you A) know what your doing or B) don't care about your savegames. Besides, by the sound of it, the problem is probably the result of one or more of your mods. Try disabling ALL of them except skyrim.esm and update.esm, and make sure skse is up to date with your patch version. See if you still get ctds then.

[AngelOfPassion]

I wasn't telling him TO adjust it, I was just saying IF he already has, and did it wrong, it would cause that exact issue.

[sucker123]

Alright, after combing through my papyrus error log i dont know whats worse: to know that i was too stupid to uninstall a few mods properly or to have that kind of work load in front of me. *sigh*

 

Thanks for the help, guys.

 

P.S.: No, i didnt edit the ugrids but now, knowing that i can change the aweful distance quality I'm quite tempted.

[AngelOfPassion]

Once you fix what is going on now maybe then start thinking about ugrids. But some things to consider: it causes more crashes, you can't just adjust it back after you have changed it unless you follow specific instructions, and you need a pretty decent rig to handle it.

 

I was just mentioning that because I adjusted my ugrids to 7 and started getting crashes every 2-5 minutes in random areas around whiterun and a mod pointed out to me that I did it completely wrong and it was causing my game to crash. So I was thinking you might have the same problem. The other 2 links I posted can help A LOT with trying to find/fix crashes though. So read through those and get your Skyrim stable. Then it's up to you if you want to risk making it unstable again lol.

[sucker123]

My current installation as well as my old one from back in november 2011, before i uninstalled it, were perfectly stable. The only mistake i made was not properly uninstalling Auto Unequip Arrows and WARZONES as well as some conflicting scripts from TYTANIS and Live Another Life. So some of the scripts from both mods were running in the back ground trying to find mods that were gone and whenever i entered a "warzone" the game crashed.

Now that i've actually read the WARZONES readme i know that i cant stop the scripts and since i started my current 15hr game with warzones...well, i can start from scratch. Guess i'm sh*t outta luck.

[bben46]

Here is a link to my troubleshooting blog. .

http://s1.zetaboards.com/bbenlibrary/topic/4751769/1/?x=0#post631601

[sucker123]

Here is a link to my troubleshooting blog. .

http://s1.zetaboards.com/bbenlibrary/topic/4751769/1/?x=0#post631601

 

I'm already way past that but thanks for posting. As i said before, the only way to fix my game is to find out how to stop the following scripts

[07/23/2012 - 04:20:48PM] error: Unable to bind script F*ckingArrow to (000961EF) because their base types do not match (had to censor that one)

[07/23/2012 - 04:20:52PM] Cannot open store for class "WZONESSpawnOMany", missing file?

[07/23/2012 - 04:20:49PM] error: Unable to bind script A_MMM_RemovalScript to (FF000D96) because their base types do not match

[07/23/2012 - 04:20:49PM] warning: Property W1 on script ATTBase attached to (FF000BFB) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

 

while only WARZONES makes the game actually crash.

[AngelOfPassion]

Warzones makes my game crash too. And I have a pretty decent setup. I love that mod but I love my game to be stable more so I just don't use it. I have just under what you have as far as system specs and I can't run that mod without crashes.\

 

And those scripts look like Warzones scripts. I don't know about every one of them but I know a couple are. Maybe the others are too.

 

Does your game run ok when you start a new game without warzones installed but all of your other mods in place?