Having lots of trouble with FCOM

[jaguar8311]

Must have installed and uninstalled at least 5 times, I tried Thomas V's Guide, Fries, FCom guide, and I can't get it. I am a newcomer to the Oblivion and I heard about how excellent it was.

 

I am so confused right now, Thomas's instructions I think I got to MMM without any problems but from there it fell apart :wallbash:

 

Is there a video guide or a even more detailed guide with pictures? my msn is [email protected] if anyone wants to even attempt to help me without going insane

 

 

Thanks for Reading

[Michlo]

I would have to say, if you're a newcomer to Oblivion there is no need to try some of the "harder to install / fix" mods. Just use ONE of the overhaul mods and you won't need FCOM (besides the helper tool for sorting out your load order along with the very useful OBMM).

 

Also, make sure you read the stickies and FAQS on mod installing. :)

 

As for which of the overhauls, I personally recommend OOO.

 

Good luck.

[Shadowcran]

yeah, it's a tad complicated to do.

 

for help of this sort though, if you want it, you need to include your load order. A list of mods you're trying to hook up.

 

Also, some common FCOM problems. If you're using The latest version.

You need to have Martigen's Monster Mod 3.6beta 2

You need to have ALL of Francesco's BSA files(about 500mb)

Complete Oscuros Oblivion Overhaul 1.4(1.3 with a patch)

 

Otherwise the latest FCOM is nigh on useless.

 

This is an example of my load list:

00 Oblivion.esm

01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

03 Children Of Rourken.esm

04 Jog_X_Mod.esm

05 CM Partners.esm

06 Qarls_Harvest.esm

07 Armamentarium.esm

08 Tamrielic Ingredients.esm

09 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34Beta3]

0A Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.6beta2]

0B TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.36]

0C Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm

0D FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.8]

0E Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

0F Cybiades.esm [Version 2.0]

10 Adrenaline Locational Masterfile.esm

11 SewerExpansion.esm

12 You Are Here.esm

13 Alchemical Formulas.esm

++ HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp

14 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

15 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

16 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.3.0]

17 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

18 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

19 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

1A Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.8]

++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.8]

1B FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

1C Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

1D Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

1E Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

++ Louder Nirnroot Sound.esp

++ Symphony of Violence.esp

++ QuietFeet.esp

1F Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

++ Brighter_Torches.esp

20 Qarls_Harvest.esp

21 Xero's Fame Indicator.esp

22 Harvest[Containers].esp

23 Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esp

24 Landmarks, w Wells.esp [Version 1.10]

25 Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

26 ArmamentariumVendors.esp

27 CapesandCloaks.esp

++ Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp

28 DMACArmor.esp

29 Dreadweave Complete_Heavy.esp

2A Dreadweave Complete_Light.esp

2B KDCirclets.esp

2C KDClothCirclets.esp

2D New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

2E RealSwords - Argonian HI-NPC.esp

2F RealSwords - Bosmer HI-NPC.esp

30 RealSwords - Breton HI-NPC.esp

31 RealSwords - Goblin.esp

32 RealSwords - Redguard HI-NPC.esp

33 SentientWeapon.esp [Version 3]

34 ExnemEC_Rogue01.esp

35 AncientTowers.esp

36 Malevolent.esp

37 ExnemRuneskulls.esp

++ FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.8]

++ FCOM_TamrielicIngredients.esp [Version 0.9.7]

38 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

39 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.8]

3A Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.8]

3B Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

3C FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.8]

3D Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34Beta3]

3E Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.6Beta2]

3F FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.8]

40 FCOM_OscurosOverhaul.esp [Version 0.9.8]

++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]

++ FCOM_EntropicOrderHardcore.esp [Version 0.9.9]

41 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp [Version 3.6Beta2]

42 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.6Beta2]

43 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.6Beta2]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

44 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.8]

++ FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.6Beta2]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp [Version 3.6Beta2]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Adventurers.esp [Version 3.6Beta2]

45 Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp [Version 3.6Beta2]

46 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.6Beta2]

47 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.6Beta2]

48 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.6Beta2]

++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.8]

++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.8]

++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.8]

++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.8]

++ TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp [Version 1.36]

49 TamrielTravellers4000.esp [Version 1.36]

++ TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp

++ TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp

++ TamrielTravellersItemsUnscaled.esp

4A ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.8]

4B T.I.E4MODS.esp [Version 0.1]

4C Nightshade_Armor.esp

4D Castle Ravenpride.esp [Version 1.01]

4E bartholm.esp

4F Cybiades.esp [Version 2.1]

50 CybiadesDungeon.esp [Version 2.1]

51 300_Artifacts.esp

52 300_White Stallion 4.esp

53 Artefacts of the Ancestors.esp

54 castleofnight.esp

55 COR-Episode1 Secret of Enourk.esp

56 Darbinshire Keep.esp

57 DJ Markov Manor.esp

58 DragonInvasion.esp

59 Fort Falkenshire.esp

5A GlenvarCastle.esp

5B GTAesgaard.esp

5C Hand of Dawn.esp

5D HauntedHouse.esp

5E HoarfrostCastle.esp

5F Mad Mike's Crypts of Cyrodiil.esp

60 NakedNord.esp

61 Pek_Halls_of_The_Phoenix_Order.esp

62 Quest For The Elements.esp

63 Raiders of Cyrodil.esp

64 Ruins of Aeris Zul.esp

65 Ruins of Tarnesia.esp [Version 1.0]

66 Spear_of_Bitter_Mercy.esp

67 sunk ships.esp

68 TempleoftheFullMoon.esp

69 The Ayleid Steps.esp

6A The_Dragon_Citadel-6178.esp

6B The_Tower_of_the_Lich_King-4492.esp

6C thievery.esp

6D Tomb of the Unknown Knight.esp

6E VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.4]

6F WeatherWizard.esp

70 WellspringGrove.esp

71 WOTFH_1.3.esp

72 za_bankmod.esp

73 sir_balin_mod.esp

74 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp

75 Knights.esp

76 TOTF.esp

77 Ruin.esp [Version 2.50]

78 Mighty Umbra.esp

79 Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp [Version 1.4]

7A Blood&Mud.esp

7B The Lost Spires.esp

7C Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

7D Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 5.1]

7E The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp

++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.8]

++ FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.8]

7F FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.8]

++ FCOM_WelkyndSwordBlood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.8]

++ FCOM_Ruin.esp [Version 0.9.8]

++ FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp [Version 0.9.8]

80 FCOM_OMG.esp [Version 0.9.8]

++ FCOM_OMGSRT.esp [Version 0.9.8]

81 FCOM_DulanCult.esp [Version 0.9.8]

82 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

83 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp

++ FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp [Version 0.9.8]

84 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

85 FightersGuildContracts.esp

86 DEJ Harvest - Flora.esp

87 AutoBookPlacer_v2.esp

88 Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover.esp [Version 1.1.0]

89 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 4.20]

8A wd purse of wonders.esp

8B Borderless_Cyrodiil-3578.esp

8C Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]

8D Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0]

8E Advanced Mark & Recall.esp

8F Disenchant.esp

90 Advanced Magecraft.esp

91 300ft_crime_detection-7319.esp

92 Adrenaline-Fuelled Combat.esp

93 Locational Damage- Core.esp

94 Locational Damage- Effects.esp

95 Locational Damage- Accurate Armour Damage.esp

96 Enhanced_Hand_to_hand-2329.esp

97 Enter The Shinobi - Coors916.esp

98 Willful Resistance.esp [Version 2.0]

99 Enhanced Mercantile Progress.esp [Version 1.0a]

9A Nanite's Legendary Alchemy.esp

9B Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp

9C No More Annoying Comments.esp

9D NoMerchantBarterChatter.esp

9E CM Partners.esp

++ [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp

++ [GFX]_Initial_Glow-self.esp

++ [GFX]_Initial_Glow-creatures.esp

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.6Beta2]

9F Bashed Patch, 0.esp

A0 Streamline 3.0.esp

++ Duke Patricks Script Effect Silencer.esp

A1 bloodscorncastle.esp

A2 Prequel01.esp

A3 GalerionTrueUnarmored-v20.esp

A4 Platinum Armor and Weapons.esp

++ better lights.esp

A5 PotR.esp

A6 The Savior of Camelot.esp

A7 RealSwords - Orc HI v1.0.esp

A8 BXX Blue Flame.esp

++ OBF Fathis Aren Fix.esp

A9 OBF Magic Penalty Fix.esp

AA DragonSlayer.esp

AB ThrowingStars.esp

AC TS3_Arcanery.esp

AD Ramy Monster.esp

AE Julianos Priory.esp

AF Armour_Degredation_Alerter-2269.esp

++ Annoying fan.esp

B0 Angelic Alliance.esp

B1 HTHAdvanced - Normal.esp

B2 FF8 Gunblade.esp

B3 Water Nymphs.esp

B4 BookTrackerOBSE.esp

B5 CyrodiilsLastHope.esp

B6 Ruins of Nalcarum.esp

B7 DexwoodFamilySaga.esp

B8 Dwemer Dungeon v2.4.esp

B9 Royal_Tombs-7774.esp

BA Tamrielic_Ingredients_MMM.esp

BB The_Naked_Elf-3229.esp

BC Oblivion Gate Markers.esp

BD Polearms.esp

BE Life_Translated-2681.esp

BF Evantal's Dual Wielding.esp

C0 Labyrinth.esp

C1 Netherworld01.esp

C2 Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

C3 Adventurers_1.0.esp

C4 OBF Creature Fix.esp

++ OBF Daedra Fix.esp

C5 A Son's Revenge 2.0.esp

C6 AdenseEpicModBU1.esp

C7 AddisHeadhunterMod EV.esp

C8 ABloodyNight.esp

C9 Annoying messages begone!.esp

++ ABNER_DOON_Arena_Items.esp

++ arrow_speed.esp

CA Balance settings.esp

CB Legends Baleful Eye.esp

CC Sagerbliv RareItems v20.esp

++ Sagerbliv Weapons v20.esp

CD AC_ModM701.esp

CE Alchemical Formulas - Basic Equipment.esp

CF Balance fixes.esp

D0 ZW_AlchemicVamp.esp

D1 AyleidTreasury.esp

D2 BoneMaster.esp

D3 DarkReign_The Discovery.esp

D4 TempleOfZealotsV2.esp

D5 BetterCoins.esp

D6 RealSwords - Khajiit HI v1.3.esp

D7 Drekin's Keep 2.3.esp

D8 Better Hand to Hand.esp

D9 BookQuest.esp

DA The SilverDragonArmorQuest.esp

DB Village of Lily 2.0.esp

DC tkRapiers.esp

++ WellspringGroveZahrashaBook.esp

DD The Bow of the Mongolian Horseman.esp

DE VeridiusInvestigations.esp

DF SewerExpansion-Bravil.esp

++ BeautifulJensine.esp

E0 Salmo The Baker v2.0.esp [Version 2.06]

E1 Abecean Pirates.esp

E2 Saints Claw v1.0.esp

E3 Damage Text v2.esp

E4 AutoSheath.esp

++ OBF Quest Fix.esp

++ OBF Quest Item Fix.esp

E5 Mart's Monster Mod - Bats Addon.esp

++ OBF 2-Handed Weapon Fix.esp

++ OBF Clutter Fix.esp

++ OBF Enchant Fix.esp

++ OBF Palace Guard Armor Fix.esp

E6 Torynwyll.esp

++ OBF Doubled Ranged Magic Speed.esp

++ OBF Vampire Fix.esp

E7 Advanced Fletching.esp

E8 RegionalBounty.esp

E9 Master-Crafting-1.0-Beta-MMM.esp

++ Weightless_Repair_Hammers-7731.esp

EA Welkynd_Transformation-9485.esp

++ Weightless_Arrows-9515.esp

++ Unlimited Torches.esp

EB Trial of Achilles.esp

EC Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esp

ED SewerExpansion-Cheydinhal.esp

EE Ring of the Assassin.esp

++ FGPorter_nofollow.esp

++ Andrews_No_Quest_Items-6729.esp

EF PCSoundRhett.esp [Version 2.6]

++ P1DkeyExtraMouseButton.esp

F0 TML_LootableArena.esp

F1 NoObsoleteEnemies.esp

F2 Cherydinhal Murder quest v2.0.esp

F3 ICSewerDBsanctuary.esp

F4 WoodNymph.esp

F5 BXX Island of Arennis.esp

F6 Restore_Health_Enchantment-8830.esp

F7 OrderCloudKnights.esp

F8 Pirates Grave V1.1.esp

F9 Bazoras tomb.esp

FA EnchantmentRemoval.esp

FB Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse NPC faces.esp

FC Race Alduran.esp

FD Katanas.esp

 

The ones with ++ are merged into the Wrye Bash Bashed Patch.

[Shadowcran]

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16375

 

And this is a must utility for installing it all. Great even if you're not installing it all

[jaguar8311]

In the OMM, MMM and OOO are both black which means its not working. Help please, if you request any other info just post here or contact me on MSN at [email protected]

 

http://i38.tinypic.com/293vx5c.jpg

[Shadowcran]

It does that. The ObM isn't all that reliable on certain things. they may very well be available to load but sometimes the OBM leaves them black like that.

 

To get FCOM going right, you need Wrye Bash and FCOM helper. Wrye Bash will show you just what all you can select(among a hundred other things, but you'll learn that later), and FCOM Helper will put everything in the right load order.

 

The proper load order is important, but it's a pain to manually do them all. FCOM helper/loader does it in an instant.

 

Wrye Bash, once learned, can:

1- Help you sort what mods you have available

2- Fix saves by removing bloat, repairing factions and hair, fixing the abomb counter

3- Mark mergeables(this is part of Bashed Patch utility, which comes with it)

**The Bashed Patch acts as an esp. You can put a lot of different mods into this one esp, as long as it's mergeable. Most of FCOM's stuff is mergeable for instance. Plus it contains the tweaks of numerous mods all on it's own.

4- Save load order lists

5- make a fast list of your load orders, which you can then copy and paste on sites for help(most of us help better if we can see what you've got going)

6- mark levelers- quite a few overhaul mods have leveled creature/items list, with Wrye Bash it's easy to sort

7- fix NVidia Fog-these can cause black screens and some crashes. Wrye Bash fixes these for every mod in mere seconds.

8- Can make an esp into an ESM. At one point I needed this feature for OOO1.3, it didn't come with a master file(esm), so I had to convert one of it's esps. Don't need it now though

9- save screenshots

It slices, it dices, it purees....j/k

It's a very useful utility that surprisingly doesn't take long to learn.

[jaguar8311]

Thank you for the info on the mod manager, I use Wyre Bash, it was the first thing to install in Thomas's guide :biggrin:

[Shadowcran]

Just use the Oblivion Mod Manager to package them into OMODs and that's all. IT's not even good at really explaining the conflicts. Most 'red' stuff is simply things that both contain levelled creatures/items. FCOM takes care of most of that, and the Bashed Patch does the rest.

[thomasv333]

Must have installed and uninstalled at least 5 times, I tried Thomas V's Guide, Fries, FCom guide, and I can't get it. I am a newcomer to the Oblivion and I heard about how excellent it was.

 

I am so confused right now, Thomas's instructions I think I got to MMM without any problems but from there it fell apart :wallbash:

 

Is there a video guide or a even more detailed guide with pictures? my msn is [email protected] if anyone wants to even attempt to help me without going insane

 

 

Thanks for Reading

 

Hello Jaguar8311,

 

Sorry for the late response I've been working 12hr days and haven't had time to check the forums much. If you are using my guide please let me know what areas you are having trouble with and also what version of the guide you are using, v0.5 is the newest version and has MUCH better detailed explanation on the MMM section, also there were a couple of missing files for Frans and MMM in previous versions. Also, Yes I will be adding pictures to the installation steps but I'm afraid that might be many weeks down the road since that takes ALOT of time.

 

But if you need help just let me know, the whole reason I decided to write the guide was to help new people easily install a FCOM game, and it would be good to get some feed back on problem areas so that I may fix them.

 

 

:thanks: