argininesy Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) I am able to create new saves in Skyrim Special Edition, however I am unable to load any saves from the main menu or reload mid-game, experiencing what I am certain is an infinite loading screen. Game boot time seems reasonable and I am not experiencing any significant stuttering or crashes in-game yet. The loading screen itself does not appear frozen; the image on the left zooms in and out normally and the "trivia" on the bottom cycles constantly. I do have a fairly heavy load order (over 200 plugins), however merging plugins does not seem to resolve the issue. I have already tried loading a preexisting save right after a new game, but the loading screen issue persists. This is the first time that I have experienced this issue after playing Special Edition for almost two years now. I am able to load and view my saves using the Fallrim Tools save cleaner within reasonable time. I have recently updated the mod utility programs (LOOT, MO2, xEdit, etc.) as well as allowed Windows 10 to stay updated without checking if any UAC or antivirus whitelists have been affected. My current load order: *RSkyrimChildren.esm*Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp*LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm*MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm*ClimatesOfTamriel.esm*arnima.esm*WinterholdDestruction.esm*Gray Fox Cowl.esm*Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm*Wyrmstooth.esp*DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp*UnlimitedBookshelves.esp*SkyUI_SE.esp*MajesticMountains_Moss.esp*Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp*MajesticMountains.esp*Gildergreen Regrown.esp*MoonAndStar_MAS.esp*Undeath.esp*RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp*Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp*Cutting Room Floor.esp*Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp*SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp*Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp*Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp*SkyTweak.esp*Companions Radiant Quests Requirement.esp*Simple AUA.esp*dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp*ImmersiveIntegrationSE15.esp*Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp*Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp*Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp*CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp*LeftHandRings.esp*JKs Skyrim.esp*Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp*Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp*Blues Skyrim.esp*JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp*Helgen Reborn.esp*HelgenRebornRSChildrenPatch.esp*Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp*BreezehomeByLupus.esp*MoonAndStar_RSC_Patch.esp*BloodmoonRising.esp*OpulentThievesGuild.esp*RSChildren.esp*LostGrimoire.esp*Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp*HearthfireMultiKid.esp*MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp*CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp*Dr_Bandolier.esp*Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp*Increased Bounty & Guild Rewards - Reduced Fedex.esp*AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp*increasedbountygoldz.esp*J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp*Realistic-Voice.esp*SERR Summermyst Patch SE.esp*RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp*JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp*UnreadBooksGlow.esp*UltimateCombat.esp*TKDodge.esp*Qw_WACCF_RSChildren Patch.esp*RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp*TESCombatStyleFormCTDFix.esp*Predator Vision.esp*WetandCold.esp*Jop - LegacyOfDragonborn.esp*Qw_WACCF_arnima Patch.esp*HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp*Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp*BetterDocks-MP-DLC-Compatible.esp*AKSkyrimUnderground.esp*Wyrmstooth - Dragon Lore.esp*Wyrmstooth - Radiant Encounter Tweaks.esp*Wyrmstooth - Typo Fix.esp*SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp*Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp*more plants all extra.esp*OwnCivilWar.esp*PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp*MLU_HeavyArmory Patch.esp*ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp*UndeathClassicalLichdom SSE.esp*moonpath.esp*JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp*Windhelm Bridge Overhaul.esp*Point The Way.esp*Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp*Tes Pagran Village.esp*Inconsequential NPCs.esp*Tes Arena Nimalten.esp*BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp*wizDynamicThings.esp*QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp*CFTO.esp*High Level Enemies.esp*High Level Enemies - SIC SE Edition.esp*Run For Your Lives.esp*Cloaks.esp*Vigilant.esp*Mortal Enemies.esp*ReasonableMovementSpeed.esp*Trade & Barter.esp*Disparity.esp*RiversideShack.esp*Qw_WACCF_ISC Patch.esp*Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp*Darkwater Crossing.esp*TES Arena Amol.esp*DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp*Tes Vernim Wood.esp*Immersive Horses.esp*Immersive Patrols II.esp*Shor's Stone.esp*quest_seaofghosts.esp*Solitude Exterior Addon.esp*CWIRLSSEPatch.esp*Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp*Wyrmstooth - Landmarks.esp*TES DunstadGrove.esp*Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp*MLU - ZIA.esp*High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp*Simply Stronger Dragons.esp*Skytest Immersive Horses.esp*Wyrmstooth - Craftable Sets.esp*Wyrmstooth - Quest Tweaks.esp*DBM_ISC_Patch.esp*DBM_RSChildren.esp*Tes Granite Hall.esp*DBM_ImmersiveHorses_Patch.esp*DBM_SkyTEST_Patch.esp*JKs Skyrim_Better Docks_Patch.esp*Kynesgrove.esp*Soljund's Sinkhole.esp*CFTO-JK-Patch.esp*DBM_MAS_Patch.esp*DBM_CRF_Patch.esp*Qw_WACCF_CRF Patch.esp*DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp*DBM_Vigilant_Patch.esp*ForgottenCity.esp*JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp*DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp*DBM_IA_Patch.esp*DBM_CWIPatch.esp*DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp*DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp*Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp*DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp*DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp*DBM_HA_Patch.esp*The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp*CFTO - Arthmoor Danwstar Patch.esp*NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp*Qw_RelightingSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp*Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp*Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp*Vigilant Voiced.esp*RSC IncNPC.esp*CCO_LeftHandRings_Patch.esp*High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp*UMSOingredientCrafting.esp*Qw_WACCF_CloaksOfSkyrim Patch.esp*Qw_BeyondReach_RDO Patch.esp*RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp*Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - Immersive Horses Patch.esp*LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp*CWICRFSEPatch.esp*_tck_SpellCrafting.esp*IWI - CRF Patch.esp*JKs Skyrim_Thunderchild_Patch.esp*MeekoReborn.esp*NARC SE for SkyTEST.esp*NARC SE patch - Beyond Reach.esp*NARC SE patch - Forgotten City.esp*NARC SE patch - Gray Cowl of Nocturnal.esp*NARC SE patch - Immersive Horses.esp*NARC SE patch - SIC.esp*FNIS.esp*AmuletsShowOnEverything.esp*MLU.esp*MLU - Summermyst.esp*MLU - Immersive Armors.esp*IWI-MLU Patch.esp*DBM_MLU_Patch.esp*NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp*BCS_NotSoFast_Patch.esp*Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp*hearthfireextended.esp*DBM_CACO_Patch.esp*CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreaturesSE_Patch.esp*CACO_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp*CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp*CACO_Moonpath_Patch.esp*CACO_GrayCowl_Patch.esp*CACO_True Fortify Effects for Magic Skills.esp*Qw_CACO_RDO Patch.esp*Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp*Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp*Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp*UndeathClassicalLichdom Ordinator Patch.esp*CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp*CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp*Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp*Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp*Skyshards.esp*ESO Skyshards - Wyrmstooth.esp*ELE_SSE.esp*Qw_ELE_CRF Patch.esp*Qw_ELE_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp*RealisticWaterTwo.esp*Qw_ELE_RW2 Patch.esp*RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp*RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp*RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Reach.esp*RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp*Scarcity SE - Less Loot Mod.esp*Simple Enchant Restriction Remover SE.esp*Simple Enchant Restriction Remover Hothtrooper44.esp*Scarcity SE - 2x Merchant Item Rarity.esp*Scarcity SE - 4x Loot Rarity.esp*SmashAllEnabled.esp*ASIS-Dependency.esp*ASIS.esp SOLUTION: SSE Fixes (by meh321) was installed but out of date. Mod Organizer somehow missed that it had been updated sometime late last year. Reinstalled that and now saves appear to be loading normally. So if your game out of the blue starts acting weird or not loading your saves, check your mods (manually) for updates in case your mod manager missed something. Edited February 17, 2019 by argininesy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jones177 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Hi First check out this old video. This is the sort of thing I forget. I use NMM to check masters. If the video doesn't help it will probably be a resource issue. In Skyrim LE it was caused mostly by running out of ram(32 bit limit) and could be fixed with ENBoost. In SE this is only an issue if you have only 8gbs ram with a video card with not much vram. The thing to do is to use Skyrim Performance Monitor to see if you are running out of something as it tries to load a save. I don't see anything on your list that I would consider sketchy but maybe others can. Later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb54 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I am able to create new saves in Skyrim Special Edition, however I am unable to load any saves from the main menu or reload mid-game, experiencing what I am certain is an infinite loading screen. Game boot time seems reasonable and I am not experiencing any significant stuttering or crashes in-game yet. The loading screen itself does not appear frozen; the image on the left zooms in and out normally and the "trivia" on the bottom cycles constantly. I do have a fairly heavy load order (over 200 plugins), however merging plugins does not seem to resolve the issue. I have already tried loading a preexisting save right after a new game, but the loading screen issue persists. This is the first time that I have experienced this issue after playing Special Edition for almost two years now. I am able to load and view my saves using the Fallrim Tools save cleaner within reasonable time. I have recently updated the mod utility programs (LOOT, MO2, xEdit, etc.) as well as allowed Windows 10 to stay updated without checking if any UAC or antivirus whitelists have been affected. My current load order: *RSkyrimChildren.esm*Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp*LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm*MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm*ClimatesOfTamriel.esm*arnima.esm*WinterholdDestruction.esm*Gray Fox Cowl.esm*Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm*Wyrmstooth.esp*DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp*UnlimitedBookshelves.esp*SkyUI_SE.esp*MajesticMountains_Moss.esp*Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp*MajesticMountains.esp*Gildergreen Regrown.esp*MoonAndStar_MAS.esp*Undeath.esp*RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp*Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp*Cutting Room Floor.esp*Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp*SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp*Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp*Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp*SkyTweak.esp*Companions Radiant Quests Requirement.esp*Simple AUA.esp*dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp*ImmersiveIntegrationSE15.esp*Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp*Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp*Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp*CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp*LeftHandRings.esp*JKs Skyrim.esp*Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp*Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp*Blues Skyrim.esp*JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp*Helgen Reborn.esp*HelgenRebornRSChildrenPatch.esp*Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp*BreezehomeByLupus.esp*MoonAndStar_RSC_Patch.esp*BloodmoonRising.esp*OpulentThievesGuild.esp*RSChildren.esp*LostGrimoire.esp*Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp*HearthfireMultiKid.esp*MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp*CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp*Dr_Bandolier.esp*Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp*Increased Bounty & Guild Rewards - Reduced Fedex.esp*AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp*increasedbountygoldz.esp*J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp*Realistic-Voice.esp*SERR Summermyst Patch SE.esp*RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp*JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp*UnreadBooksGlow.esp*UltimateCombat.esp*TKDodge.esp*Qw_WACCF_RSChildren Patch.esp*RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp*TESCombatStyleFormCTDFix.esp*Predator Vision.esp*WetandCold.esp*Jop - LegacyOfDragonborn.esp*Qw_WACCF_arnima Patch.esp*HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp*Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp*BetterDocks-MP-DLC-Compatible.esp*AKSkyrimUnderground.esp*Wyrmstooth - Dragon Lore.esp*Wyrmstooth - Radiant Encounter Tweaks.esp*Wyrmstooth - Typo Fix.esp*SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp*Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp*more plants all extra.esp*OwnCivilWar.esp*PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp*MLU_HeavyArmory Patch.esp*ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp*UndeathClassicalLichdom SSE.esp*moonpath.esp*JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp*Windhelm Bridge Overhaul.esp*Point The Way.esp*Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp*Tes Pagran Village.esp*Inconsequential NPCs.esp*Tes Arena Nimalten.esp*BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp*wizDynamicThings.esp*QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp*CFTO.esp*High Level Enemies.esp*High Level Enemies - SIC SE Edition.esp*Run For Your Lives.esp*Cloaks.esp*Vigilant.esp*Mortal Enemies.esp*ReasonableMovementSpeed.esp*Trade & Barter.esp*Disparity.esp*RiversideShack.esp*Qw_WACCF_ISC Patch.esp*Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp*Darkwater Crossing.esp*TES Arena Amol.esp*DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp*Tes Vernim Wood.esp*Immersive Horses.esp*Immersive Patrols II.esp*Shor's Stone.esp*quest_seaofghosts.esp*Solitude Exterior Addon.esp*CWIRLSSEPatch.esp*Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp*Wyrmstooth - Landmarks.esp*TES DunstadGrove.esp*Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp*MLU - ZIA.esp*High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp*Simply Stronger Dragons.esp*Skytest Immersive Horses.esp*Wyrmstooth - Craftable Sets.esp*Wyrmstooth - Quest Tweaks.esp*DBM_ISC_Patch.esp*DBM_RSChildren.esp*Tes Granite Hall.esp*DBM_ImmersiveHorses_Patch.esp*DBM_SkyTEST_Patch.esp*JKs Skyrim_Better Docks_Patch.esp*Kynesgrove.esp*Soljund's Sinkhole.esp*CFTO-JK-Patch.esp*DBM_MAS_Patch.esp*DBM_CRF_Patch.esp*Qw_WACCF_CRF Patch.esp*DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp*DBM_Vigilant_Patch.esp*ForgottenCity.esp*JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp*DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp*DBM_IA_Patch.esp*DBM_CWIPatch.esp*DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp*DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp*Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp*DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp*DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp*DBM_HA_Patch.esp*The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp*CFTO - Arthmoor Danwstar Patch.esp*NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp*Qw_RelightingSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp*Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp*Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp*Vigilant Voiced.esp*RSC IncNPC.esp*CCO_LeftHandRings_Patch.esp*High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp*UMSOingredientCrafting.esp*Qw_WACCF_CloaksOfSkyrim Patch.esp*Qw_BeyondReach_RDO Patch.esp*RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp*Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - Immersive Horses Patch.esp*LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp*CWICRFSEPatch.esp*_tck_SpellCrafting.esp*IWI - CRF Patch.esp*JKs Skyrim_Thunderchild_Patch.esp*MeekoReborn.esp*NARC SE for SkyTEST.esp*NARC SE patch - Beyond Reach.esp*NARC SE patch - Forgotten City.esp*NARC SE patch - Gray Cowl of Nocturnal.esp*NARC SE patch - Immersive Horses.esp*NARC SE patch - SIC.esp*FNIS.esp*AmuletsShowOnEverything.esp*MLU.esp*MLU - Summermyst.esp*MLU - Immersive Armors.esp*IWI-MLU Patch.esp*DBM_MLU_Patch.esp*NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp*BCS_NotSoFast_Patch.esp*Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp*hearthfireextended.esp*DBM_CACO_Patch.esp*CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreaturesSE_Patch.esp*CACO_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp*CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp*CACO_Moonpath_Patch.esp*CACO_GrayCowl_Patch.esp*CACO_True Fortify Effects for Magic Skills.esp*Qw_CACO_RDO Patch.esp*Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp*Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp*Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp*UndeathClassicalLichdom Ordinator Patch.esp*CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp*CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp*Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp*Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp*Skyshards.esp*ESO Skyshards - Wyrmstooth.esp*ELE_SSE.esp*Qw_ELE_CRF Patch.esp*Qw_ELE_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp*RealisticWaterTwo.esp*Qw_ELE_RW2 Patch.esp*RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp*RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp*RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Reach.esp*RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp*Scarcity SE - Less Loot Mod.esp*Simple Enchant Restriction Remover SE.esp*Simple Enchant Restriction Remover Hothtrooper44.esp*Scarcity SE - 2x Merchant Item Rarity.esp*Scarcity SE - 4x Loot Rarity.esp*SmashAllEnabled.esp*ASIS-Dependency.esp*ASIS.esp 1st Question:... Does this happen if you start a brand new game?.>>>> BACK UP YOUR CURRENT SAVES!! To test this. Save a couple from this new game and see if the Long Acting Load Screen is gone? If the game loads and starts and plays with no issues, then we have some problems / questions that need addressed: 1. Pull back all your games that were backed up. Start w/the earliest saved game, not the newest saved game.... Does it load and play? Move forward to all saved to see if they will play or not play? 2. Did you update any mods, during this current game?... I cannot tell you how many games were trashed, by updating a mod and I'm not just talking about " me, myself and I " either. 3. Looking at your list, ( quickly ) I noticed that you have some mods that duplicate and or involve same cell space, NPC modifications and such. Are you 100% sure these work together? 4. Are you using SKSE 64? Please no flame, this is an honest observation that not just I have seen / experienced. Some mods that used SKSE in Oldrim are NOT using SKSE 64 ... yet ... but have script that is built in, to allow their mods to work without SKSE. This can and does indeed create issues in which will show up ASAP and some NOT so quickly and will start a slow path of breaking down the saved games. If a new game starts with NO ISSUES and all your current saves do not, I'm sorry, but the games got corrupted some where / time along the way. This too can happen ... and there is little that can be done once a script / non-scripted mod starts the path of corruption. . o O ( You could blame Alduin, if you like. He might not be happy about you taking him down! ) :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argininesy Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) I am able to create new saves in Skyrim Special Edition, however I am unable to load any saves from the main menu or reload mid-game, experiencing what I am certain is an infinite loading screen. Game boot time seems reasonable and I am not experiencing any significant stuttering or crashes in-game yet. The loading screen itself does not appear frozen; the image on the left zooms in and out normally and the "trivia" on the bottom cycles constantly. I do have a fairly heavy load order (over 200 plugins), however merging plugins does not seem to resolve the issue. I have already tried loading a preexisting save right after a new game, but the loading screen issue persists. This is the first time that I have experienced this issue after playing Special Edition for almost two years now. I am able to load and view my saves using the Fallrim Tools save cleaner within reasonable time. I have recently updated the mod utility programs (LOOT, MO2, xEdit, etc.) as well as allowed Windows 10 to stay updated without checking if any UAC or antivirus whitelists have been affected. My current load order: *RSkyrimChildren.esm*Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp*LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm*MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm*ClimatesOfTamriel.esm*arnima.esm*WinterholdDestruction.esm*Gray Fox Cowl.esm*Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm*Wyrmstooth.esp*DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp*UnlimitedBookshelves.esp*SkyUI_SE.esp*MajesticMountains_Moss.esp*Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp*MajesticMountains.esp*Gildergreen Regrown.esp*MoonAndStar_MAS.esp*Undeath.esp*RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp*Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp*Cutting Room Floor.esp*Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp*SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp*Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp*Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp*SkyTweak.esp*Companions Radiant Quests Requirement.esp*Simple AUA.esp*dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp*ImmersiveIntegrationSE15.esp*Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp*Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp*Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp*CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp*LeftHandRings.esp*JKs Skyrim.esp*Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp*Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp*Blues Skyrim.esp*JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp*Helgen Reborn.esp*HelgenRebornRSChildrenPatch.esp*Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp*BreezehomeByLupus.esp*MoonAndStar_RSC_Patch.esp*BloodmoonRising.esp*OpulentThievesGuild.esp*RSChildren.esp*LostGrimoire.esp*Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp*HearthfireMultiKid.esp*MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp*CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp*Dr_Bandolier.esp*Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp*Increased Bounty & Guild Rewards - Reduced Fedex.esp*AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp*increasedbountygoldz.esp*J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp*Realistic-Voice.esp*SERR Summermyst Patch SE.esp*RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp*JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp*UnreadBooksGlow.esp*UltimateCombat.esp*TKDodge.esp*Qw_WACCF_RSChildren Patch.esp*RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp*TESCombatStyleFormCTDFix.esp*Predator Vision.esp*WetandCold.esp*Jop - LegacyOfDragonborn.esp*Qw_WACCF_arnima Patch.esp*HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp*Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp*BetterDocks-MP-DLC-Compatible.esp*AKSkyrimUnderground.esp*Wyrmstooth - Dragon Lore.esp*Wyrmstooth - Radiant Encounter Tweaks.esp*Wyrmstooth - Typo Fix.esp*SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp*Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp*more plants all extra.esp*OwnCivilWar.esp*PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp*MLU_HeavyArmory Patch.esp*ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp*UndeathClassicalLichdom SSE.esp*moonpath.esp*JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp*Windhelm Bridge Overhaul.esp*Point The Way.esp*Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp*Tes Pagran Village.esp*Inconsequential NPCs.esp*Tes Arena Nimalten.esp*BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp*wizDynamicThings.esp*QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp*CFTO.esp*High Level Enemies.esp*High Level Enemies - SIC SE Edition.esp*Run For Your Lives.esp*Cloaks.esp*Vigilant.esp*Mortal Enemies.esp*ReasonableMovementSpeed.esp*Trade & Barter.esp*Disparity.esp*RiversideShack.esp*Qw_WACCF_ISC Patch.esp*Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp*Darkwater Crossing.esp*TES Arena Amol.esp*DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp*Tes Vernim Wood.esp*Immersive Horses.esp*Immersive Patrols II.esp*Shor's Stone.esp*quest_seaofghosts.esp*Solitude Exterior Addon.esp*CWIRLSSEPatch.esp*Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp*Wyrmstooth - Landmarks.esp*TES DunstadGrove.esp*Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp*MLU - ZIA.esp*High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp*Simply Stronger Dragons.esp*Skytest Immersive Horses.esp*Wyrmstooth - Craftable Sets.esp*Wyrmstooth - Quest Tweaks.esp*DBM_ISC_Patch.esp*DBM_RSChildren.esp*Tes Granite Hall.esp*DBM_ImmersiveHorses_Patch.esp*DBM_SkyTEST_Patch.esp*JKs Skyrim_Better Docks_Patch.esp*Kynesgrove.esp*Soljund's Sinkhole.esp*CFTO-JK-Patch.esp*DBM_MAS_Patch.esp*DBM_CRF_Patch.esp*Qw_WACCF_CRF Patch.esp*DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp*DBM_Vigilant_Patch.esp*ForgottenCity.esp*JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp*DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp*DBM_IA_Patch.esp*DBM_CWIPatch.esp*DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp*DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp*Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp*DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp*DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp*DBM_HA_Patch.esp*The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp*CFTO - 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Does this happen if you start a brand new game?.>>>> BACK UP YOUR CURRENT SAVES!! To test this. Save a couple from this new game and see if the Long Acting Load Screen is gone? If the game loads and starts and plays with no issues, then we have some problems / questions that need addressed: 1. Pull back all your games that were backed up. Start w/the earliest saved game, not the newest saved game.... Does it load and play? Move forward to all saved to see if they will play or not play? 2. Did you update any mods, during this current game?... I cannot tell you how many games were trashed, by updating a mod and I'm not just talking about " me, myself and I " either. 3. Looking at your list, ( quickly ) I noticed that you have some mods that duplicate and or involve same cell space, NPC modifications and such. Are you 100% sure these work together? 4. Are you using SKSE 64? Please no flame, this is an honest observation that not just I have seen / experienced. Some mods that used SKSE in Oldrim are NOT using SKSE 64 ... yet ... but have script that is built in, to allow their mods to work without SKSE. This can and does indeed create issues in which will show up ASAP and some NOT so quickly and will start a slow path of breaking down the saved games. If a new game starts with NO ISSUES and all your current saves do not, I'm sorry, but the games got corrupted some where / time along the way. This too can happen ... and there is little that can be done once a script / non-scripted mod starts the path of corruption. . o O ( You could blame Alduin, if you like. He might not be happy about you taking him down! ) :wink: First of all, thanks for your time in addressing my issues. My oldest save produced the same result as in my OP, with the loading screen taking an inordinately long time (I gave up on it after about ten minutes and exited out). There does not seem to be any difference when I make a save from the starting room with only Live Another Life enabled; the game plays fine, but attempting to load the save, no matter how "young" it is, results in the same hang-up. The playthrough could be seconds old with just that one mod enabled and it will still have the same issue. It might be worth adding that I'm able to view these saves and their data through Mod Organizer and ReSaver. I have made a point of updating and finalizing my load order before starting playthroughs, and I haven't touched my plugins list between saves. As far as mod compatibility, I have mostly been going by what LOOT and MO2 have indicated can play together, and relying on Mator Smash to resolve conflicts. I've been playing with most of the worldspace and NPC changing mods for over a year now (not counting Oldrim) without encountering any errors directly traceable to a conflict, so I'm reasonably confident that they play nice. I have the latest SKSE64 (build 2.0.12) located in C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\SkyrimSpecialEdition\. I've used some Oldrim mods in past Special Edition playthroughs that I ported over with the standard method and without apparent errors. I have encountered the occasional random CTD, but I've never had a case where the loading screen persisted like this. I did try starting a new game directly through Steam instead of SKSE/MO2; in that case I was able to successfully load my save from Helgen and in a matter of seconds. Is it possible that there is a privileges error going on here? Edited February 11, 2019 by argininesy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb54 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 First off - from more than just personal experience, you cannot fully 100% trust the loading suggestions of NMM - LOOT and such suggest. They are simply " current " suggestions. But the minute an updated MOD or such comes out, realize, they become ' out of date '. Plus, as was the case in another Skyrim Post .. the player found that even though there was no " warning " ... his / her's overkill in Armor and clothing and added to that NPC overhauls .... they had to scale back big time on their armor mods and sure enough, their game worked. :) General Rule: Decide what you NEED for a current game, in mods, not what you want. Especially when / if you go after mods that do similar or same things ... IE: Add armor - weapons - NPC changes and so on. Second, since it looks like you can load and play a game starting over, and not 1 of your prior saves will work. Your prior game is corrupted and all likely hood is ... you will have to start over. But beware - If you still have no cured the base issue ... you could recreate the problem all over again. Good Luck .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argininesy Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 How would save corruption or mod overload explain me not being able to load a save that's only minutes into a new playthrough and with only Live Another Life enabled? I wouldn't expect there to be runaway bloat with such a minimal amount of data. I'm willing to write off my older saves and pare down my load order since I'm looking to reroll for a fresh start, but this is the first time that I've been able to boot up Skyrim through SKSE, start a new game and save without issues, but not be able to load that otherwise-functional save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidislamy Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 if my save game corrupt, i use same mod as save game as possible then play new game after that to main menu then load the corrupted save game. this save one of my corrupted save game because I delete the other save. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argininesy Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 Nevermind I fixed it :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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