GerhardReinke1 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I want to run Fallout 4 version 1.09 and the newest version on the same computer, with a separate Nexus mod account and configuration. Can I possibly make a new Windows 10 profile and then buy another copy of Fallout 4 on a second steam account, as well as make a new NMM account that won't touch the NMM files on my original windows profile? Would this work? Thanks in advance for any help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjinnKiller Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) Depends on what You want to achieve? It is not (that) complicated to run totally different installations of FO4 and NMM given that You don't mind using a bit of disk space and can use the same Steam account for all installs.As of writing this I have 11 (yes, eleven) different and totally different installs of FO4/NMM, it requires a bit of PC knowhow and a steady hand switching (You can royally fcuk up your install if You don't know what you're doing)).....and did I mention that disk space :smile: FO4 and NMM is totally "bound" to four folders, of You use the same structure for all installs (and don't have NMM or FO4 running while switching), it is just as simple as renaming folders. Edited February 22, 2019 by DjinnKiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissingMeshTV Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) I’ll echo what DjinnKiller said. Very doable with a little bit of folder name swapping. I have at least six installs of varying version from the latest and greatest back to 1.10.75, each with their own specific purpose. I also have them on two different drives (Steam lets you set multiple game libraries on different drives). To get the second (or more) FO4 install:- Rename your current/old FO4 install: something like Fallout 4-MAIN for example.- Have Steam validate your Fallout 4 game files. Since you renamed your FO4 install, it won’t find a game to validate and will create a fresh install of the latest version.- When the install is finished, you have two different FO4 installs with two different versions. Keep the one you want to play named “Fallout 4”, and the other renamed as I suggest above. When you want to switch installs, just adjust the folder names accordingly. Steam doesn't care which one you use. As long as it can find a folder called Fallout 4, it's oblivious to the multiple installs. My only divergence from DjinnKiller’s post is to suggest ditching NMM and use MO2 for this. MO2 is much better suited for this set up as it can be installed as “portable” with all of your mod and profile data stored in one location. MO2 also handles multiple profiles far more effectively than NMM ever will. It also will never install mods into your Data folder (it uses a virtual file system) so your game install will remain relatively clean. NMM also is rather poor at handling different profiles with different load orders. MO2 is light years more efficient and effective for this. I create a folder for MO2 within my game folder and install the MO2 application into it. It installs all the mods and profile data (which includes your load orders) with that folder. The end result is that more or less everything you need to play the game is stored in one location, making backups and archiving a snap. Just copy the game install folder. It does require lots of storage space, but that’s the price you pay! But it does cut down on the number of folders you have to do name swaps with. You can probably do the same with NMM with some extra work, but I find MO2 to be superior for this sort of thing, as well as mod management in general. YMMV. Also, if by “a new NMM account” you mean making a new Nexus account to download mods with, that’s not a good idea. Multiple accounts are a TOS violation and people have been banned for it. There is no need for that whatsoever if you set up your modding tools to handle multiple installs with multiple profiles. Edited February 22, 2019 by RedRocketTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjinnKiller Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) I stand corrected :smile: while I personally prefer NMM above all other managers, my very personal choice.....As for the "the general choice" I have no opinion. And if RedRocketTV recommends some other manager, I would listen to him (if you do not have a preference). Edit: I have a long and convoluted description on how to switch, posted that on a chat to some of my friends on Nexus. Can post it here if it is interesting, probably gonna fcuk up some TOS or shite, or PM me. Edited February 22, 2019 by DjinnKiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissingMeshTV Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Nothing at all for you to be corrected on, my friend! It all is a matter of personal preference. :thumbsup: I personally find the virtual file system that MO2 uses to be better suited for multiple installs and profiles since it doesn’t touch the Data folder. I did try this initially with NMM and it was a nightmare. Switched to MO2 and I’ve been able to keep what little hair I have left and not pull out the rest. It just works! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjinnKiller Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) NP, I have total control of all my FO4-installs, I know every little byte that flows pretty much everywhere.I think that given that you are fresh in this tech nightmare called FO4, and not an anal retentive geek like me, it is probably a safe bet to listen to you, not me! :D :D Anyway, cheers mate, and as always, your mods is on my "must-have-always" list, and for all those reading this thread...by the love of Baphomet/Pazuzu/God/Jesus/Buddah or Elvis, check out the Player Homes of the Rocket TV that is Red!........... Edited February 22, 2019 by DjinnKiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissingMeshTV Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Cheers back at ya, DjinnKiller! ...you forgot to add Talos, Cthulhu, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster to your deity list. :laugh: Now that we've hijacked the OP's thread...I just remembered seeing file in the a modder's resource section a while ago that was supposed to automate the file swapping of multiple installs. Maybe the OP might find it helpful BUT: It only works on two folder, and the set up seems a bit complicated. Manually renaming files is probably easier IMHO, but it's there if you want to look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerhardReinke1 Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) Would i have to change any file names if i just use a separate windows profile and buy another copy of FO4 on a brand new steam account though? and maybe use MO2 instead of NMM so as to avoiding a TOS violation? Thanks Edited February 23, 2019 by GerhardReinke1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjinnKiller Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 @RedRocketTVDo'h, how could I forget that big Spaghetti in the sky! :D @GerhardReinke1Making copies of FO4 on Your own PC connected to Your own Steam account is not a breach of the TOS, at least in my neck of the woods. I have no idea how dual accounts would act on the same PC, but making a copy of those four folders literally takes 10min, and saves You the bucks for a second, and unnecessary copy of Fallout 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerhardReinke1 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Thank you both for the help. What are the four files i need to change? And can I use MO2 just for the new game version and keep NMM for the original? Edit: Success! Edited February 27, 2019 by GerhardReinke1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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