smr1957 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Thanks for all the information - you all do a really fantastic job! Keep up the good work! I do, however, agree with Madcat221 and TheGreatFalro with regard to modpacks. Seems to me that there is just way too much room for misuse and abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathClawDC Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Hey I got a question What happened to monthly giveaways? It was quite a fun And I'm proud to be a part of this community And thank you #nexusmods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 In response to post #67937096. Madcat221 wrote: I am really hoping that "Mod Pack" is a poorly chosen term for this, because "Mod Pack" means, to me as a modder, "Loose collection of mods accumulated often without concern for permissions, credit, compatibility, or upkeep".This ^I can't tell for sure if it's just bad terminology being used or if you mean actual real mod packs. That needs to be one of the first things that gets clarified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaldir Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Always interesting to read these state of the Nexus essays, so yes, it was definitely worth the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacremas Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 In response to post #67937096. #67941336, #67941861 are all replies on the same post.Madcat221 wrote: I am really hoping that "Mod Pack" is a poorly chosen term for this, because "Mod Pack" means, to me as a modder, "Loose collection of mods accumulated often without concern for permissions, credit, compatibility, or upkeep".Arthmoor wrote: This ^I can't tell for sure if it's just bad terminology being used or if you mean actual real mod packs. That needs to be one of the first things that gets clarified.Zaldiir wrote: This is partially covered in the third paragraph of that section:"It has caused some controversy in the past due to various reasons, including it taking downloads away from mod authors, the worry it would increase false support issues for mod authors caused by bad mod packs and because others who have attempted to do this have basically created a "mod piracy" platform that completely ignores (and breaks) copyright laws because they did not have permission to distribute the mods contained in the mod packs. Whatever we come up with will ensure none of these are a realistic issue."Not entirely sure if it's even possible, but instead of an actual collection of mods to download like these usually are, how about a profile of mods to download into Vortex, you activate the profile and Vortex automagically downloads/updates the mods in the profile, with notifications and instructions if anything needs to be done manually, and a pre-set load order included? That way individual author pages still gets the individual download counts, and users not quite ready to start picking things on their own (the main thing I hear from my friends and in youtube comments alike on why they don't use mods) will still get a done install out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxis22 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 blogs about the travails of the database backend are always interesting. Thanks for being here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisKley Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I am actually very interested into these "behind the scenes" reports. keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickysaurus Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 In response to post #67940686. Dipanjanc33 wrote: Hey I got a questionWhat happened to monthly giveaways?It was quite a funAnd I'm proud to be a part of this communityAnd thank you #nexusmodsWe're currently exploring some other options for events we can hold, stay tuned ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydawg55 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 In response to post #67937096. #67941336, #67941861, #67942656 are all replies on the same post.Madcat221 wrote: I am really hoping that "Mod Pack" is a poorly chosen term for this, because "Mod Pack" means, to me as a modder, "Loose collection of mods accumulated often without concern for permissions, credit, compatibility, or upkeep".Arthmoor wrote: This ^I can't tell for sure if it's just bad terminology being used or if you mean actual real mod packs. That needs to be one of the first things that gets clarified.Zaldiir wrote: This is partially covered in the third paragraph of that section:"It has caused some controversy in the past due to various reasons, including it taking downloads away from mod authors, the worry it would increase false support issues for mod authors caused by bad mod packs and because others who have attempted to do this have basically created a "mod piracy" platform that completely ignores (and breaks) copyright laws because they did not have permission to distribute the mods contained in the mod packs. Whatever we come up with will ensure none of these are a realistic issue."Sacremas wrote: Not entirely sure if it's even possible, but instead of an actual collection of mods to download like these usually are, how about a profile of mods to download into Vortex, you activate the profile and Vortex automagically downloads/updates the mods in the profile, with notifications and instructions if anything needs to be done manually, and a pre-set load order included? That way individual author pages still gets the individual download counts, and users not quite ready to start picking things on their own (the main thing I hear from my friends and in youtube comments alike on why they don't use mods) will still get a done install out of it.If what Dark0ne means by "Mod Pack" is offering a single archive for download and installation that includes the primary mod and all its mod dependencies or options in a single plugin, with an installation menu like some FOMODs have, that (1) would be more convenient than multiple downloads/installs and (2) would greatly help users like me stay within the 255 plugin limit. By the time I obtain all the mods that fix game problems for my favorite Bethesda products, I don't have a lot of plugin slots available for quests, new locations, or new characters. Since we can't directly fix game engine design, maybe this is a way to optimize mod design. This could and should be done in a collaborative way. It seems that as some games "mature" more modders get together to combine their work into larger compilations. Fallout New Vegas seems to have a lot of these partly because the game has been around a long time and partly because it has a lower plugin count (135ish?). Done right, this could work out well for everyone. Assuming the collaboration/permissions issue gets fixed, then the next question (to me) is who does the work of compiling the package? And related to that question, how would conflicts be resolved? I keep thinking of other questions, so I will stop now. I admire Dark0ne's ambition. It looks to me like a way he is looking for a way to compete with Creation Club with a free (as in no charge), better quality alternative. I wish Bethesda well, but I also like the idea. Also, you guys have enough standing in this community to influence the direction of this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydawg55 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) This is encouraging news that tells me that Nexus mods has a good present and a bright future. Keep up the good work! In the thread below you will notice that your "Mod Packs" idea has raised some eyebrows. Done right, you will be an even greater hero. Done wrong, and it could end up the recent attempts by several big game companies to inject micro-transactions into their products. I wish you much success. Edited February 22, 2019 by jaydawg55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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