Every (I think) new mod making my game not start up.

[UnholyShadow]

Several mods I recently downloaded make my game not start up. I ran obmm's conflict detector and nothing showed up with them, but they make my game not start up no matter what position they are in my load order. They are the last 5 I downloaded so I don't think there is a problem with the mods themselves. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Khet]

First off, if you think it's those five disable the ones you think are causing the problem and make sure the game starts up. If it does then you know for a fact it's one of those. Then from there, enable ONLY one and start the game each time to make see if it's just one, or all five of them. After you've narrowed it down to just a single mod (or a group of mods) redownload them and reinstall the mods. Sometimes it's caused by a bad installation.

[Khet]

First off, if you think it's those five disable the ones you think are causing the problem and make sure the game starts up. If it does then you know for a fact it's one of those. Then from there, enable ONLY one and start the game each time to make see if it's just one, or all five of them. After you've narrowed it down to just a single mod (or a group of mods) redownload them and reinstall the mods. Sometimes it's caused by a bad installation.

[UnholyShadow]

First off, if you think it's those five disable the ones you think are causing the problem and make sure the game starts up. If it does then you know for a fact it's one of those. Then from there, enable ONLY one and start the game each time to make see if it's just one, or all five of them. After you've narrowed it down to just a single mod (or a group of mods) redownload them and reinstall the mods. Sometimes it's caused by a bad installation.

I did that, and all 5 did not work. I don't think the downloads are corrupted, because one is 14kb, so there is little chance it did not download properly. I'll try anyway and redownload one and see if it works, because it would make sense.

[bben46]

Many newer mods require the 1.2 patch, without it the will crash the game. Also, many mods, especially the larger ones require OBSE to be running first. If you do not launch OBSE before Oblivion, they will not workor crash on start up.

 

It might help if you posted the mods you are having trouble with or maybe a load order list of all of your mods. Here is a way to get a load order if you don't know how.

 

Often a load order list is needed for troubleshooting - The list in the Oblivion data list is not always in the order that things are actually loaded.

 

How to get your load order list into a post using OBMM

 

If you don't have OBMM, it is a great tool for managing mods as well as moving them in the load order and finding certain kinds of conflicts. It has many other capabilities, but this post is just to show how to get the load order list into a post for troubleshooting.

 

First, of course you have to have OBMM (Oblivion Mod Manager) it's available free from the author's site here: http://timeslip.chorrol.com/

 

Look in the column on the left side, find the heading “Oblivion mod manager”

To download, click on the download just below the heading.

 

A new page will open with a list of different ways to install – pick the self installer.

Save the file, the best place is a separate folder you make mine is on the desk top and is oblivion downloads\OBMM. The main folder is called Oblivion Downloads. Then a subfolder inside that is called OBMM)

 

After it has downloaded, open that folder and find the file you just downloaded. It will be named obmm.zip. Click on it to start the install. It should automatically find your Oblivion and install itself in the right place. It will also give you the option of creating a desktop icon, a Quick launch icon. I recommend only the desktop icon.

 

Then the options for associating files – select all of these.

 

When it finishes installing, OBMM will start automatically.

 

It will start with a list of your mods on the left pane in their current load order. Active mods will be checked and inactive will have an empty check box.

 

To copy the load order, look on the right, you will see a box with 'Import/Export'. Click that.

Then select the first option, 'View Load Order'

 

A new window will open with only your active mods listed in their load order.

 

Use your mouse to highlight the entire list, then left click on the highlighted list.

 

A box will open with Cut, copy paste.

 

Select copy – DO NOT SELECT CUT!

 

Now you can close the window and close OBMM (This might take a few minutes as OBMM takes a while to close.)

 

Go to where you want to put the load order list – I recommend creating either a text document or a word processing document and naming it load order and the date

(load order 6-22-08.txt)

 

Then open that document, place your cursor at the beginning and right click. Select paste.

 

This should copy your load order into the document.

 

Now, to get the load order into a post, open the forum, find where you want to place the load order list and paste it. The copied text will be inserted where you place the mouse cursor.

[UnholyShadow]

I don't think it is a problem with my load order, as I have never had a problem with it that I couldn't fix by just moving the mod around. The mods that do not work are Nature's Bounty, Rune Skulls, The companion cube mod, flame ring, and the Cheydinhal pet shop. Here is my load order.

 

Edit: I just downloaded a rather large new mod, and it works fine. I do not have any idea why those 5 mods do not work.

 

 

Oblivion.esm

bookplacing.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

CM Partners.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Children Of Rourken.esm

DXtoVK.esm

Nature's_bounty.esp

ExnemRuneskulls.esp

Aperture Cube.esp

vermillionandsilverthorn.esp

DimensionalPocket.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

QuietFeet.esp

Landmarks.esp

ChaseCameraMod.esp

VanityCameraSmoother.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Adventurer's Spells.esp

Ring of Atmospherancy.esp

ANB_Portable_FireTent.esp

bnmDLTIC-1-6.esp

ES4_Alchemists Reference.esp

All normal clothes buyable.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

CM_Better Wine.esp

Better Hand to Hand.esp

PT-AyleidSanctum-WithAltars.esp

JADDockTunnel.esp

Update My Statue.esp

CWar's Chest of Fun v1.4.esp

RealisticForceHigh.esp

tda_WitchKingHelm.esp

Lock Bash v99.91.esp

KDWitchesFrock.esp

[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp

KumikoManor.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

polearms_1.0.7_EV.esp

Armory Arcane.esp

Functional Imperial City Lighthouse.esp

mythsandlegends.esp

Invisibility Robe ver2.esp

hilarity_121.esp

StealthOverhaul.esp

ImperialCityHouse.esp

GB_Oblivion Tournament.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp

P1DanywhereSittable.esp

Knights.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

Apple Tree - Simple v.01.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Marketplace_Eng.esp

Templar Fighters Guild.esp

WaterFallCave.esp

NakedNord.esp

The Bow of the Hunter.esp

SetEssentialActors.esp

Sauron_Armor_Chest.esp

CM Partners.esp

Atmospheric Oblivion.esp

Blakeley's Lachrymal Bow.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

Buster Sword R.esp

Comand Scrolls!.esp

Mithril_Warlord_Helmet.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

AyleidFiringa.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

Bag of Holding.esp

Personal Portable Paradise.esp

bcrich.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

Pirates Grave V1.1.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

ULFallenLeafEverglade.esp

Nico's Quinga Bows.esp

DarkFlameRing.esp

DHAyleidShield.esp

Damsels In Distress.esp

DMACArmor.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

P1DKeyChainSI.esp

AyleidMarket.esp

ExnemEyeCandy.esp

VA_FemmeDaedricHelmet.esp

VA_DaedricPriestessArmour.esp

Cane of Sheogorath.esp

Playable Golden Saint Race.esp

PlayableSheogorathMod.esp

SeductiveIdles.esp

Beautiful People.esp

ANB Witcherhunter Hat.esp

Better Sheogorath.esp

Nicos Ice Bow.esp

Flamering.esp

MadHouseV12.esp

AW_Wings.esp

Encumbrance100.esp

pale_rider's Paladin Equipment_enchanted_eng.esp

DarkIllusionArmor.esp

RSArmor.esp

Daedric Wargames.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Slof's Boners!.esp

OblivionBracers.esp

Streamline 3.0.esp

Herbalism.esp

Herbalism - Shivering Isles.esp

Oss133FrameRateOptimizer.esp

SPARTAN VI's VelocityLight Arrows.esp

kingdomofAlmar.esp

garden of wayshrines v.2.esp

Apocalypse.esp

Imperial Treehouse.esp

Jagnot-SI-Bliss Aquaduct House.esp

300_White Stallion 4.esp

StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp

Thieves Arsenal.esp

Toaster's Legendary Skills & Stats.esp

Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp

CityofSunevV058.esp

Shivering Isles - You Act Like Sheogorath.esp

Birthsigns Expanded.esp

Caine's Outfit.esp

Ushnars Skinned Hound.esp

Blood's Advanced Spell Combat.esp

Nightshade_Armor.esp

Madgod Powers.esp

Naughty_Joana_01.esp

DAMeridiaKatrina.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

HoarfrostCastle.esp

ExnemEC_Rogue01.esp

Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp

MeteorShowerDiveRock.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

hackdirtabyss.esp

Talon of Akatosh Longsword.esp

Adult_BookStore.esp

IC Island Estate.esp

BXX_Mines.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

MannimarcoRevisited.esp

BlackLuster.esp

The Dead Knights.esp

DarkFlameSwordAndShield_v10_FIXED_ESP.esp

Rogue Sun's Blood Lust Dress.esp

Dk second knight update.esp

walklikesheo.esp

Blackpowder_bombs v04.esp

Biene Amelion Saved.esp

Smite of Order.esp

BravilSeaDomes.esp

GlenvarCastle.esp

Burstedge.esp

SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp

dragontorch.esp

PureSteelBlade.esp

Better Benirus Manor v1.1.esp

Creeper.esp

Daedric Lord Armor.esp

SM_EnableCharmChameleon.esp

SM_EnableRestoreEnchanting.esp

VA_SnagaAxe.esp

Advanced Magecraft.esp

DAUnaSpriggan.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

Ivellon.esp

AyleidMeteorIronWeaponsBASE.esp

COR-Episode1 Secret of Enourk.esp

AnorielsCrossroadsManor1.2.esp

HGEC Varied Breasts.esp

P1DseeYouSleep.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

Hiyoko_Store.esp

3_Cool_Rings-7800.esp

Imperial_City_Cave_House-9473.esp

SkyCastle.esp

Arch_Mages_Robe_Enchanted_--_Master_Level-2205.esp

Bow_of_the_Nine-9480.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

Sonia.esp

always protection.esp

Reznod_Mannequin.esp

Nicos Scimitars Back.esp

Ace's Warlock Gear.esp

Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp

nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp

VaultsofCyrodiil.esp

personality_idles2.esp

CTAddPose_v_1.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

NBB.esp

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

Eroblivion.esp

BasicInstinct.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

Slof's Sexy Anims.esp

eyja.esp

DAOdegraXivilai.esp

LivingMetal.esp

Mighty Umbra - Vanilla OB.esp

qazFingerSnap.esp

The Soul of Ilithiel.esp

PCSoundMazzy.esp

Updated!_Gem_Price_Fix-1922.esp

Sigil Maces by Jojjo v1_0.esp

tda_ScytheModv1.2.esp

300ft_crime_detection-7319.esp

Caught in the Hunt.esp

PJs Spell Compendium - Spell Requirements.esp

Floating_Rock-9757.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Lair_of_the_Hydra-4490.esp

tkRapiers.esp

Morrigan Armor Set v1_0.esp

WellspringGrove.esp

Origin of the Mages Guild.esp

Nicos Kynareth Archery.esp

Morrigan Swords Axes and Shield by Jojjo v1_1.esp

DianoArmor2.esp

Binoculars.esp

All+5AttributeModifiers.esp

Bigger_Investments-4607.esp

Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - ThrowingKnives.esp

Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp

tona_whitesquall-armor.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Gottshaw.esp

sexycompanion.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

SN_Forest_Cottage.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

A Cut Above Hairdressers.esp

Magicka Regen x4.esp

SB TES4 Oblivion Crossbow Mod v8.5.esp

adelina.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

CuteElf11.esp

ElaborateEyes.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting Deadly Reflex Compatible.esp

DeadlyReflex - Combat Moves.esp

KDClothCirclets.esp

Living Economy - SI.esp

Cheydinhal Petshop.esp

[Khet]

Hmm Runeskulls shouldn't be giving you any trouble if you're patched to 1.2 as for the others I don't quite know about, but read their readme or descriptions on the Nexus site (or wherever you downloaded them from) and make sure that they don't require OBSE (Oblivion Script Extender). If they do and you don't have it then go ahead and download that (Quick google should pull up the link) and then you're good to go. Also double check that they aren't addons for another mod as that could also cause problems and crash your game. (Like the oblivion book jacket mod and bookplacing)

[UnholyShadow]

I am patched to 1.2 and I have the latest version of obse. I really don't think there is anything wrong with my load order or compatibility, because there are no conflicts with them, and I have never had any trouble with my load order. Seeing as the mods that don't work are the last 6 or so I downloaded, and none of them work as the only one enabled, out of the mods I downloaded recently, I think there is something else wrong. Also, this may have nothing to do with it, but it seems like when Oblivion actually starts up, it takes a long time to close, longer than when before I got this problem. I also just realized that after I disabled Lock Bash, Rune Skulls started working.

 

Edit: The more mods I disable, the more new ones work, but I'm not even close to the limit yet.

[Khet]

This might be going out on a limb, but even though you're not near the limit your computer itself might be unable to handle it. Dunno, just a guess.

[UnholyShadow]

I have a fairly nice computer, that can run Oblivion on pretty high settings without much stuttering. Do text documents and images in your data folder count towards the max amount?