[Dawnguard DLC] Crossbow Questions ?

[reaper9111]

Hello guy's...

 

- Is it normal that anyone holding a crossbow hold it "kinda" over it's shoulder ? (or this would be caused by an animation replacer if it ain't normal)

- I'm unable to fire crossbow ? (i hold it in my hand, over the shoulder as mention above) but when i want to fire it, it just does'nt move) No Animation, no firing nothing !

 

Any solution of you guys come up with something, or even might have an idea on what's going on ?

 

Thanks

Reaper

[Matth85]

Sounds fishy. As there is a clear animations when firing/reloading.

 

May I ask, do you got any mods? Or have you recently removed a bunch of mods before playing Dawnguard? If yes, I suggest letting Steam validate the files of Skyrim, as I believe something is corrupt.

If no, I am not sure. Reinstall Dawnguard perhaps?

[Deleted4430249User]

Hi, I havnt played skyrim since I formatted, but since dawnguard came I had to have it but I installed a bunch of mods first, probably to many. And hoped it would work, and suprisingly it works great. But I noticed the crossbow animation instead of shooting it work as a melee weapon both player and npc strike with it like its a knife or something.

 

Does anyone know what mod might have caused the problem.

 

My Modlist is:

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[reaper9111]

As i read somewhere else...

A Mod that alter the behavior files (Animation files) might be the problem...

Since this was my first thougt, i went in and disable anim mod and replace all the altered animation by it's original...

 

Still no luck !

[fore]

reaper, you are incorrect in 2 things:

- behavior files (most of them in "behaviors", "character/characters", "character/characters female") are NOT animation files (under "animations" and below). Behavior files are needed so that animation files can work properly. .hkx is only an archive format. There is even a skeleton compressed in .hkx

 

- if you "disable" anim mods (their plugins ?) you will not deacrivate behavior files. You have to delete or overwrite outdated behavior files.

 

Most crossbow animation problems I have seen are caused by outdated behavior files, installed by old versions of animation mods (e.g. Fore's New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS 1.0 or 1.5, or AP), or some other animation mods, which were simply not updated to the newest skyrim versions by their authors). There also seem to be some more DLC specific problems, and in some cases I don't know, if users simply didn't understand how to remove the behavior files.

 

You can fix the crossbow "behavior based" problems in 2 ways

 

1) FNIS (RE-)INSTALLATION FIX (should work in most cases):

- remove data/meshes/actors/character/behaviors/mt_behavior.hkx

- (re-)install Fore's New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS. Make sure GenerateFNISforUsers.exe is run

FNIS will overwrite the most common cause of animation glitches (due to old defaultmale.hkx, and defaultfemale.hkx)

 

2) BEHAVIOR CLEAN-UP:

delete the following files, or move them to a different folder:

- data/meshes/actors/character/*.hkx

- data/meshes/actors/character/behaviors/*.hkx

- data/meshes/actors/character/characters/defaultmale.hkx

- data/meshes/actors/character/characters female/defaultfemale.hkx

Now of course all animation mods which need behavior files need to be re-installed

[CloudyDay]

Thanks!

I had the same problem where my character was just holding the crossbow as if he was unarmed. I did what you suggested and deleted the files. I can now shoot, but only in 3rd person. Do you think there are any more files that I should delete to fix this? Again, thanks for the help!

 

Edit: Tried deleting the same files inside \meshes\actors\character\_1stperson, and I can now fire my crossbow in 1st person. Unfortunately, the crossbow is now invisible. Thus, the search continues.

 

Edit 2: Works! I deleted:

- Data\meshes\actors\character\_1stperson\behaviors\*.hkx

- Data\meshes\actors\character\_1stperson\characters\*.hkx

At first the crossbow was invisible, but it appeared when I unequipped and then equipped.

Edited August 6, 2012 by CloudyDay

[rowynyew]

Thank you both fore and cloudyday. I used a combination of both of your posts and it worked perfectly.

[Sanbru]

Seems I'm having the same issue as well.

Although, tried your method and only seemed to fix it in third person view.

[GodKingVivec]

i cant get it to work. and gargoyles are also screwed up in thier animation. i dont seem to have any of the *.hkx fils

[Zanza59]

Thanks!

I had the same problem where my character was just holding the crossbow as if he was unarmed. I did what you suggested and deleted the files. I can now shoot, but only in 3rd person. Do you think there are any more files that I should delete to fix this? Again, thanks for the help!

 

Edit: Tried deleting the same files inside \meshes\actors\character\_1stperson, and I can now fire my crossbow in 1st person. Unfortunately, the crossbow is now invisible. Thus, the search continues.

 

Edit 2: Works! I deleted:

- Data\meshes\actors\character\_1stperson\behaviors\*.hkx

- Data\meshes\actors\character\_1stperson\characters\*.hkx

At first the crossbow was invisible, but it appeared when I unequipped and then equippHi

Hi, I know this is an old post but i recently have the same problem with the crossbow in 1st person. From wich folder did you removed those files, FNIS folder? or Skyrm, because I use Mod organizer and have FNIS 7.4.5.