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Hello guys, I have an odd problem. I've been playing a modded game for a good couple of weeks now (up to level 39) and, while I initially had a few issues I managed to fix, some weird CTD started happening last night I never encountered before. Whenever combat starts and blows are exchanged, either me (or a companion) hiting the enemy or the enemy hiting me, the game CTD. I have absolutely no clue what could be causing this seeing as I have not installed any new mods, nothing that would give me some indication of which mod could be suddenly causing this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Here's my loading order (I used LOOT to get a basic loading order and moved around some conflicting mods, though I'm sure it can be improved) :

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 RSkyrimChildren.esm
6 6 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
8 8 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
9 9 Sneak Tools.esp
10 a Campfire.esm
254 FE 0 Werewolf Revert Form.esl
254 FE 1 Patch_MEZF_Luminosity.esp
254 FE 2 radiantBlocker.esp
254 FE 3 MissingEZsFixed.esp
11 b SkyUI_SE.esp
12 c dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
13 d dD-Medium Script Range.esp
14 e dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
15 f dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
16 10 iNeed.esp
17 11 iNeed - Extended.esp
18 12 SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp
19 13 waterplants.esp
20 14 Cutting Room Floor.esp
21 15 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
22 16 1nivWICCloaks.esp
254 FE 4 1nivWICCloaks_SMP_Patch.esp
23 17 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
24 18 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
25 19 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
26 1a Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
27 1b BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp
28 1c RLO - Interiors.esp
29 1d Shields of the Holds.esp
30 1e icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
31 1f BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
254 FE 5 Qw_BarenziahQuestMarkers_USSEP Patch.esp
32 20 AMatterOfTime.esp
33 21 AHZmoreHUD.esp
34 22 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x2.esp
35 23 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
36 24 SparklesSE.esp
37 25 TCBM.esp
38 26 TrueStormsSE.esp
39 27 Obsidian Weathers.esp
40 28 Helgen Reborn.esp
41 29 RLO - Exteriors.esp
42 2a Eli_Breezehome.esp
43 2b OpulentThievesGuild.esp
44 2c skyforgedShields.esp
45 2d OBIS SE.esp
46 2e SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
47 2f TrainAndStudy.esp
48 30 TW3Plate.esp
49 31 LakeViewManorUpgrades.esp
50 32 ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp
51 33 imp_helm_legend.esp
52 34 Mortal Enemies - Rival Remix.esp
53 35 Mortal Enemies Patch - Realistic Animals Predators.esp
54 36 First Person Horse Riding.esp
55 37 SimplyKnock.esp
56 38 ReadingImprovesSpeech.esp
57 39 Better Harvesting.esp
58 3a Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
59 3b Better Vampires.esp
60 3c Cooking_In_Skyrim.esp
61 3d Better Dressed NPCs.esp
62 3e SwordsmanAssortment_SE_Eng.esp
63 3f Immersive Encounters.esp
64 40 Run For Your Lives.esp
65 41 Cloaks.esp
66 42 RLO - Eli's Breezehome Patch.esp
67 43 Improved Adoptions.esp
68 44 Improved Adoptions Patch.esp
69 45 Blowing in the Wind.esp
70 46 Improved Adoptions DLC houses.esp
71 47 Shut UP.esp
72 48 More idle markers.esp
73 49 DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp
74 4a TacticalValtheim.esp
75 4b UniqueBorderGates-All.esp
76 4c Dawnguard Sentries SE.esp
77 4d Penitus_Oculatus.esp
78 4e Ars Metallica.esp
79 4f Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
80 50 ABT SE - Faster Arrows Improved.esp
81 51 ABT SE - Faster Bolts Improved.esp
82 52 ABT SE - Loot Ammo.esp
83 53 ABT SE - Merchants Arrows.esp
84 54 ABT SE - Progressive Damage.esp
85 55 ABT SE - Recover Ammo.esp
86 56 ABT SE - Renamed Bolts.esp
87 57 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
88 58 Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
89 59 THMeeko.esp
90 5a Footprints.esp
91 5b DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
92 5c MoonlightTalesMCM.esp
93 5d More_Saddles.esp
94 5e Better Horses 3.0.esp
95 5f More_Saddles - Shadowmere - Bard.esp
96 60 More_Saddles - Frost - Knight.esp
97 61 RSC HR Patch.esp
98 62 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
99 63 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
100 64 Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp
101 65 HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp
102 66 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
254 FE 6 Cloaks_SMP_Patch.esp
254 FE 7 Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
103 67 Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp
104 68 Immersive Patrols II.esp
105 69 Skyshards.esp
106 6a Cloaks of the Nords for Guards.esp
107 6b SleevesMod_CloaksAndWICAndUSSEP.esp
108 6c Frostfall.esp
109 6d Hold Riders.esp
110 6e BeaRac.esp
111 6f OldHroldanRuins.esp
112 70 HillHouse.esp
113 71 MoreWerewolves.esp
114 72 Storefront.esp
115 73 Eli_RiverwoodShack.esp
116 74 Saltdeposits.esp
117 75 Eli_Ruska.esp
118 76 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
119 77 stendarrsbeaconenhancedRv4sse.esp
120 78 EastEmpirePendantsMarkers.esp
121 79 notice board.esp
122 7a DragonboneBarbarianMale.esp
123 7b Haladoondogs.esp
124 7c PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
125 7d HothFollower.esp
126 7e Ark_PantherCompanion.esp
127 7f ArkaysHandRebornEng.esp
128 80 WildHerdsOfSkyrim.esp
129 81 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
130 82 DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp
131 83 HoldBorderBanners.esp
132 84 WoollyRhino.esp
133 85 garm_white.esp
134 86 DBM_iNeed_Patch.esp
135 87 Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
136 88 AllDBItems.esp
137 89 StendarrsHammer.esp
138 8a bgSkjoldur.esp
139 8b shadowscaleset.esp
140 8c Dr_Bandolier.esp
141 8d My Home Is Your Home.esp
142 8e AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp
143 8f Ish's Souls to Perks.esp
144 90 AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp
145 91 Whistle.esp
146 92 STAC.esp
147 93 LWPlayerHeadTracking.esp
148 94 Realistic-Voice.esp
149 95 Unique Uniques.esp
150 96 BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
151 97 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
152 98 Obsidian_TS_Patch_Spectral_WaterFix.esp
153 99 getSnowy.esp
154 9a Obsidian_TS_Patch_Spectral.esp
155 9b WetandCold.esp
156 9c getSnowy_WnC-Ashes Patch.esp
157 9d RSC CRF Patch.esp
158 9e usable lantern.esp
159 9f AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
160 a0 UsefulDogs.esp
161 a1 ImperialRewards.esp
162 a2 Real Feeding V3.esp
163 a3 Spouse Daily Routine.esp
164 a4 Missing Apprentices CRF Quest Fix.esp
165 a5 DisableCinematicKills.esp
166 a6 fastermining3-3.esp
167 a7 FalmerLoot.esp
168 a8 Runandwalkpaces.esp
169 a9 SmartNoMoreStupidDog.esp
170 aa TG Door Never Closes.esp
171 ab LongLastingTorches.esp
172 ac JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
173 ad RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp
174 ae GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
175 af FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp
176 b0 Sleeved Imperials.esp
177 b1 Wounds.esp
178 b2 Improved Fire Salts Frost Salts And Glow Dust.esp
179 b3 WendigoAndHowler.esp
180 b4 HothFollower UFO Patch.esp
181 b5 SolstheimMerchantsInWhiterun.esp
182 b6 HelgenRebornRSChildrenPatch.esp
183 b7 Eli_RiverwoodShack - Ars Metallica Patch 3.0.esp
184 b8 Eli_Breezehome - Ars Metallica Patch 3.0.esp
185 b9 UniqueBarbas.esp
186 ba Skysan_Stalhrim.esp
187 bb DTWerewolfMeter.esp
188 bc Dawnguard Dont Hunt Cured Vampires.esp
189 bd Volkihar Knight.esp
190 be TalosHousecarl.esp
191 bf SPOAsilverknight.esp
192 c0 SPOA_shield.esp
193 c1 Armory of Favored Soul.esp
194 c2 ArmoryFSShields.esp
195 c3 Hoodless Dragon Priest Masks - REPLACER.esp
196 c4 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
197 c5 DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp
198 c6 DBM_IA_Patch.esp
199 c7 DBM_RSChildren.esp
200 c8 DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp
201 c9 DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp
202 ca DBM_Namira_Patch.esp
203 cb DBM_SkyTEST_Patch.esp
204 cc DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp
205 cd Dynamic TimeScale.esp
206 ce BandolierForNPC - Winter is Coming and Cloaks of Skyrim Patch.esp
207 cf BandolierForNPC - Realistic Enchantements.esp
208 d0 Lethal Traps.esp
209 d1 SkyrimReputation_SSE.esp
210 d2 sandboxcylinderheight.esp
211 d3 Vero Follower.esp
212 d4 AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
213 d5 AetherialCrafting.esp
214 d6 Nykal Vampire follower.esp
215 d7 KagrenacsWisps.esp
216 d8 Yggdrasil.esp
217 d9 ScoutArmor.esp
218 da HelmetToggle.esp
219 db Immersive Speechcraft.esp
220 dc KWTelescope.esp
221 dd SolitudeShieldReplacer_Eng.esp
222 de getSnowy_ObsidianWeathers_Patch.esp
223 df RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
224 e0 RLO - CRF Patch.esp
225 e1 Wet&Cold - WaterFix - Addon.esp
226 e2 Obsidian_TS_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp
227 e3 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
228 e4 ImmersivePerformance_Ordinator.esp
229 e5 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
230 e6 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
231 e7 BUVARP.esp
232 e8 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
233 e9 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
234 ea DBM_BUVARP_Patch.esp
235 eb CWRepairs.esp
236 ec RLO - IC Patch.esp
237 ed Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
238 ee BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
239 ef WICO - Immersive People.esp
240 f0 WICO - USSEP Compatible Patch.esp
241 f1 WICO - Immersive Character.esp
242 f2 RSChildren.esp
243 f3 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
244 f4 Carry Weight x2.esp

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Sorry I didn't report back sooner, crazy week...

So I did what you suggested and loaded a previous save and it looks like it fixed it... sorta. Occasionally, the game will freeze on a hit for like a good 5 seconds and then it will unfreeze itself and I can carry on with my game just fine. Other times, the freeze will occur and will result in a CTD. Thankfully I use Dynamic Timescale which includes an autosaving function and have it save every 5 minutes so I never lose that much playtime. I still wonder what's causing the freezes, but at least I can still play my game.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Just in case, someone runs into a similar issue, I managed to figure out which mod was causing these CTDs. After hours of troubleshooting, disabling every single mod I could think of that could affect combat, it turns out it was Enhanced Blood Texture (the script that's causing wounds to appear on hit I suppose). I have been free of CTDs in combat since turning that one off.

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