Crashing for No Reason

[MyChemGams]

The title takes the spotlight.

 

I thought I'd finally found the right mix to my load order - my saved games loaded fine, and though there was a second lag between maps loading, everything was alright.

 

Then, when I fast traveled to Skingrad's stables on the main quest, Oblivion crashed. Now my saves won't load.

 

Here's my load order:

 

 

• 00 Oblivion.esm [CRC: 2FF840C5]

• 01 CM Partners.esm [CRC: FE525BB3]

• 02 PostalService.esm [CRC: B2A22C2D]

• 03 HorseCombatMaster.esm [CRC: AC684E53]

• 04 Knights - Revelation.esm [CRC: 878F9CED]

• 05 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm [CRC: E771AD8B]

• 06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33] [CRC: 6EDD6168]

• 07 GTAesgaard_2.esm [CRC: 379577AC]

• 08 GTAesgaard.esp [Version 1.3] [CRC: E8F9347F]

• 09 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] [CRC: FBE175F0]

• 0A Maigrets Sable thePanther.esp [CRC: E6482028]

• 0B WolfPacks.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: 5B30BBB9]

• 0C WolfPacksNWildlife+SagerblivAddOn.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: ECC18AE3]

• 0D fadingtorches v1.3b.esp [CRC: B7998877]

• • • _darker_dungeons.esp [CRC: 449BCAE6]

• ++ _darker_nights.esp [CRC: 06E5C29D]

• 0E JP_Canine&Feline_Packs_Merged_CORElease.esp [CRC: 18FE50AF]

• 0F DRSplatter.esp [CRC: 74B7D119]

• 10 Pegasus.esp [CRC: 41EA8292]

• 11 Oblivion T-Shirt.esp [CRC: F1B7A1C6]

• 12 Alligators.esp [CRC: A3FD1A1B]

• 13 Zackswerewolves.esp [CRC: 9AD715A5]

• ++ cidnothump.esp [CRC: 50D90710]

• • • cidnothumpMMversion.esp [CRC: E0021D4F]

• 14 Tharanthiel_Deer_Mount.esp [CRC: F6B798BE]

• 15 Band TShirts.esp [CRC: 5D051E37]

• 16 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp [CRC: 0805DE86]

• 17 Books1.esp [CRC: F251B51F]

• 18 Wogs!.esp [CRC: 101E015C]

• 19 GlenvarCastle.esp [CRC: D72EE775]

• ++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp [CRC: AC331384]

• 1A Living Economy.esp [CRC: 486C64F8]

• 1B Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33] [CRC: E61266C3]

• 1C Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: 93873332]

• ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: 05003A29]

• 1D OOO-Respawn_Two_Week.esp [Version 1.33] [CRC: F6344872]

• 1E The Muesum OF Artifacts.esp [CRC: FF686E33]

• 1F OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33] [CRC: 5FD2D492]

• 20 Blue eyes white dragon cards.esp [CRC: 8A6B7723]

• 21 DBContinuedBeta 0.7.esp [CRC: 53F0E649]

• 22 Jeans.esp [CRC: 740543A6]

• • • HiddenSkulls.esp [CRC: 5240E2E5]

• 23 LdyarflsGrayfoxHorse.esp [CRC: 37DC5833]

• 24 Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp [CRC: 0B58010B]

• 25 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp [CRC: 48A6FB2A]

• 26 Gates To Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 359858B6]

• Delinquent Master: GTAesgaard_2.esp

• 27 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] [CRC: 6E4F2756]

• ++ RedBag - Dangerous Animals.esp [CRC: E30EEC00]

• 28 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4.04] [CRC: 7D9D9B53]

• 29 Command Mount.esp [CRC: 94C4C65F]

• 2A Maigrets House Cats.esp [CRC: BF1A5766]

• 2B MidasSpells.esp [CRC: 774275E4]

• 2C Toc Toc - The Raven.esp [CRC: 9E939819]

• 2D CaesarRanger.esp [CRC: 6D47035D]

• 2E CaesarOneWithNature.esp [CRC: 03CC5BF7]

• 2F TreasureHunt.esp [CRC: 0C5AA3EB]

• 30 Secrets.esp [CRC: C51BB848]

• 31 The Infernal Shack.esp [CRC: 06761F4C]

• ++ Priest Of Order.esp [CRC: E8858F9B]

• 32 Hentari.esp [CRC: C0F8345B]

• 33 Return Of Shadows.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: 8A91BEC7]

• 34 Henpori.esp [CRC: 87EBFA9E]

• 35 PTFallingStars.esp [CRC: 14F23954]

• 36 Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp [CRC: 93072653]

• • • DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp [CRC: 59A4E8C1]

• 37 Denock Arrows.esp [CRC: 61C1D746]

• 38 Listener.esp [CRC: 31CC1DF0]

• 39 Uriel Septims Ghost.esp [CRC: B2AD20FC]

• • • Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp [Version 1.03] [CRC: 13F4CF76]

• 3A Highwayman.esp [CRC: F6E7BC64]

• 3B SMOKING CITYS.esp [CRC: C06D4972]

• 3C TheLibrary.esp [CRC: 8EBF022F]

• 3D Set Sail.esp [CRC: 53601C91]

• 3E tq5.esp [CRC: BFC7EEAA]

• 3F EM_Packdonkeys.esp [Version 2.1] [CRC: 81B9F5C6]

• 40 Knights.esp [CRC: 4CB1DF3D]

• 41 DLCShiveringIsles.esp [CRC: 2BB84977]

• 42 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.1] [CRC: D5E25D6F]

• 43 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] [CRC: 196D52A1]

• 44 KORs Fox Figurines.esp [CRC: ED144125]

• 45 DeepDiver.esp [CRC: C3FA708C]

• 46 Enhanced Seasons.esp [Version 1.3.2] [CRC: 3C1381C2]

• 47 Temple_of_the_Jaguar.esp [CRC: 4B030CC4]

• 48 sycNiceToMeetYou.esp [CRC: 9508C3C5]

• ++ Real Black Bow Bandits.esp [CRC: 90B97A7B]

• 49 pmSkoomaDeals.esp [CRC: 50DD7316]

• 4A AutomaticPatrols.esp [CRC: A71254F7]

• 4B delivery_job.esp [Version 1.2x] [CRC: 05C427F2]

• 4C PostalService.esp [CRC: 1A69D3F6]

• ++ More Valuable Gems.esp [CRC: 795BBC31]

• 4D Zira's Demonic Mounts.esp [CRC: 9DF09DA0]

• 4E BAKAdventurerTorch.esp [CRC: A90B6E8C]

• 4F Yakut Horse.esp [CRC: 193973CC]

• 50 Realistic Hatred.esp [CRC: C3809F67]

• 51 illegal drugs of cyrodiil.esp [CRC: D6A5CF58]

• 52 Master Gray Fox.esp [CRC: 1BA58088]

• 53 City_Voices.esp [CRC: DCFEF3D4]

• 54 Converse Shoes.esp [CRC: A02801A5]

• 55 Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp [CRC: EDF9B36F]

• 56 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [CRC: 698D6FFD]

• 57 TeddyBackpacks.esp [CRC: 97141F78]

• 58 Cursed_Husband.esp [CRC: B101F18D]

• 59 ScaryCave-LaddieCompanionRe.esp [CRC: F8BE0CF6]

• 5A Coffee Horse Mod.esp [CRC: E3DA2FC9]

• • • Skyrimized Waters HD BLUE - SI Addon.esp [CRC: 763EB2E5]

• • • Skyrimized Waters HD - SI Addon.esp [CRC: F975398B]

• • • Skyrimized Water HD BLUE eng.esp [Version 1.8.] [CRC: 51820BBE]

• 5B Skyrimized Water HD eng.esp [Version 1.8.] [CRC: D00F63BC]

• 5C Nec Mystic High Elf-Mellow.esp [CRC: A9B105B0]

• ++ Sniping Bows.esp [CRC: 6CC5E4DE]

• 5D Knights - Revelation.esp [CRC: 7395AEA5]

• 5E CM Partners.esp [CRC: ED17B93C]

• 5F CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp [CRC: 0E16E859]

• 60 CM Partners NPC.esp [CRC: AE2DE928]

• 61 More_Arrows_Recovered-2169.esp [CRC: 92C9752F]

• 62 Bodies-B-Gone.esp [CRC: 5A39B6B8]

• 63 Parps_Invisibility_Cloak-6294.esp [CRC: 09623DD8]

• 64 Guard's Ear.esp [CRC: CCF5EC8B]

• 65 Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: 0E4A5808]

• 66 GTAesgaard_2.esp [CRC: C70D972A]

[dubiousintent]

Check out the thread 'Oblivion CTD's' in this section for some general questions designed to elicit more details.

Are you using BOSS 2.1.0?

 

Here are some CTD causes and solutions associated with your posted symptoms.

 

@ Problem

In some areas the game crashes within seconds of entering the area.

Cause 1

Requirement for specular lighting in the areas, while it has been switched off.

Solution

Set Specular Distance in the in-game video options to minimum.

Workaround

Set the variable bDoSpecularPass in Oblivion.ini to 1 if you switched it off before. You can turn it back off after you're past the problem area.

 

Cause 2

Corrupted master file. Casual crashes in Oblivion are to be expected, but sometimes the crash corrupts the master file causing exceptional crashiness in damaged areas (and as result likehood for further corruption of the file).

Workaround

Be in the first person perspective mode. As soon as you enter the area, look straight down at the floor and run to the desired exit door using your feel (map, hints from the floor looks), without looking up. Of course you can't do much in such areas that way. It can get you, say, across the Skingrad castle courtyard though.

Solution

Reinstall Oblivion. Your saves shouldn't be lost but just in case back them up (My Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves) then uninstall Oblivion (with Add/Remove Programs), reboot, install Oblivion again, possibly reboot again. Most likely your savegames are still present, if not, recover from backup. Don't start with a savegame created in the crashy area, pick an earlier one if needed. If you would prefer not to reinstall the game, you can restore your autosave. Go to your Saves directory (commonly C:\Documents and Settings\"user name"\My Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves) and delete autosave.ess. Then rename autosave.bak to autosave.ess. Occasionally, the .ess and .bak will not have been generated during the same save, so restoring the .bak will result in starting from 2nd most recent autosave point. For reasons unclear, following the steps in Solution 2 will cease corruption of autosave files also.

Solution 2

Stop overwriting existing save files and avoid using Quicksave. Disabling quicksaves will have a dramatic effect in reducing crashes. Supporting the hypothesis that corrupted saves cause game crashes rather than game crashes corrupt saves, it seems that clicking "new save" everytime will eliminate those pesky "crash on area transition" crashes. Autosave is still ok.

 

Cause 3

iShadowMapResolution was changed from 1024 to 256 in Oblivion.ini for patch 1.2

Solution

Open Oblivion.ini. Find iShadowMapResolution. Change 256 to 1024. Close Oblivion.ini and save changes.

 

Cause 4

HDR lighting is enabled

Solution

Just go into video settings and turn HDR lighting off.

 

Cause 5

Internal shadows are turned off. Sometimes going through a door will immediately CTD.

Solution

Turn on Internal shadows.

 

 

@ Problem

Loading a save game crashes before completion.

Cause

Probably a corrupted save game or an esp is missing it's master.

Solution

Missing masters: see above.

Even though you are using the same mods, it is possible that the order is different and is causing conflicts. Try starting a New Game, and see if it does the same; if not, then unclean saves is probably your problem. To fix it, just unload all mods, load, save, reload your mods.

 

Problem

In some areas the game crashes within seconds of entering the area.

Cause 1

Requirement for specular lighting in the areas, while it has been switched off.

Solution

Set Specular Distance in the in-game video options to minimum.

Workaround

Set the variable bDoSpecularPass in Oblivion.ini to 1 if you switched it off before. You can turn it back off after you're past the problem area.

 

Cause 2

Corrupted master file. Casual crashes in Oblivion are to be expected, but sometimes the crash corrupts the master file causing exceptional crashiness in damaged areas (and as result likehood for further corruption of the file).

Workaround

Be in the first person perspective mode. As soon as you enter the area, look straight down at the floor and run to the desired exit door using your feel (map, hints from the floor looks), without looking up. Of course you can't do much in such areas that way. It can get you, say, across the Skingrad castle courtyard though.

Solution

Reinstall Oblivion. Your saves shouldn't be lost but just in case back them up (My Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves) then uninstall Oblivion (with Add/Remove Programs), reboot, install Oblivion again, possibly reboot again. Most likely your savegames are still present, if not, recover from backup. Don't start with a savegame created in the crashy area, pick an earlier one if needed. If you would prefer not to reinstall the game, you can restore your autosave. Go to your Saves directory (commonly C:\Documents and Settings\"user name"\My Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves) and delete autosave.ess. Then rename autosave.bak to autosave.ess. Occasionally, the .ess and .bak will not have been generated during the same save, so restoring the .bak will result in starting from 2nd most recent autosave point. For reasons unclear, following the steps in Solution 2 will cease corruption of autosave files also.

Solution 2

Stop overwriting existing save files and avoid using Quicksave. Disabling quicksaves will have a dramatic effect in reducing crashes. Supporting the hypothesis that corrupted saves cause game crashes rather than game crashes corrupt saves, it seems that clicking "new save" everytime will eliminate those pesky "crash on area transition" crashes. Autosave is still ok.

 

Cause 3

iShadowMapResolution was changed from 1024 to 256 in Oblivion.ini for patch 1.2

Solution

Open Oblivion.ini. Find iShadowMapResolution. Change 256 to 1024. Close Oblivion.ini and save changes.

 

Cause 4

HDR lighting is enabled

Solution

Just go into video settings and turn HDR lighting off.

 

Cause 5

Internal shadows are turned off. Sometimes going through a door will immediately CTD.

Solution

Turn on Internal shadows.

 

Problem: CTD attempting to load a saved game, even after a clean save for a mod update has been performed.

 

Solution: Sometimes with Bashed Patch, a 'double clean save' is required. Consists of:

1) disable mod AND Bashed Patch

2) load last save

3) create new save and exit

4) leave Bashed Patch disabled, and re-enable mod

5) load clean save

6) create new save and exit

7) rebuild Bashed Patch

 

-Dubious-

[DrakeTheDragon]

• 26 Gates To Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 359858B6]

• Delinquent Master: GTAesgaard_2.esp

This is a load order error warning:

GTAesgaard_2.esp needs to load before this "Delayer" patch, not at the end of your load order.

I guess BOSS didn't recognize it and placed it dead last after your bashed patch, as that's where it is now.

This plugin is now missing its master, which is a surefire way to cause CTDs, sometimes the game won't even get past the Bethesda logo.

Edited August 22, 2012 by DrakeTheDragon

[MyChemGams]

@DraketheDragon: Ooooh, that makes sense. And it worked! Thank you very much! :D