Hodvar is missing during the Vanilla Start

[MilanKokyCZ]

Hi guys i have a bit of a problem

When i choose Vanilla start in alternate live and even without alternate Live

Hodvar is not there at all it looks like they all look at him but i dont see him anywhere dont you know what could the problem be with this ?

It is like he is either Completly Stuck Somewhere on the way to Helgen or is completly CUt please help it breaks immersion

But when i get to the Scene with a boy he is there normally

And now he is just stuck in the way to the stones right when we go down to the hill to the stones and refuse to move wtf is this Any help Please ?

Edited May 17, 2019 by MilanKokyCZ

[MilanKokyCZ]

It seems that i have found a problem it looks like his horse is stuck when you right into helgen i was keep watching him and he bumps with that horse into a building and i have no idea why

[MilanKokyCZ]

https://ibb.co/hH1ryrj Here is a Screenshot and Where the Problem IS

[MilanKokyCZ]

and here is my load order

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254 FE 2 GloriousGlaciers.esp

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23 17 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

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31 1f DBM_MAS_Patch.esp

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33 21 Missives.esp

34 22 Provincial Courier Service.esp

35 23 Man Those Borders!.esp

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52 34 Distinct Interiors - Inns.esp

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56 38 JUSTICE - City Exteriors.esp

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64 40 DBM_IA_Patch.esp

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67 43 TreasureHunterGarb.esp

68 44 ArcherCuirassUltimate.esp

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[ElysianMods]

This is a common issue when you load all your mods in with the introduction. The game is being overrun with scripting and the introduction to the game is already very script-intensive. The script for Hadvar seems to be stopping due to all of your other mods trying to run their scripts at the same time. The only fix is to disable as many scripted mods as you can until you exit Helgen. It's actually recommended that you not load any mods except those that are absolutely necessary until you leave Helgen.

 

This happens often with mods, especially when you have as many plugins as you have. :P