Skyrim or Fallout(3/NV)?

[kevkiev]

I prefer modded NV over modded FO3 and modded Skyrim. It's close though, and I'm glad I have all 3.

 

FO3 and FONV both seem way less fragile than Skyrim and seem to be able to handle mods better. I never had a single quest bug with either FO3 or FONV, despite running a ton of mods. But I don't think I could even survive without the setstage console command for Skyrim. On the stability end of things, I can play all 3 without any issues, although it took some work and a buncha Bethesda patches along the way with FO3 and FONV. Skyrim has been very stable for me, but then again I stay away from complex mods in skyrim (unlike FO3 and FONV).

 

And I thought the storyline and companions in FONV were the best. Vanilla FO3 companions sucked, imo, although there were a couple modded ones that were ok. (Tho FO3 is still, to me, a game best played without followers.) Vanilla companions are better in Skyrim than FO3 but, except for Serana and albeit to a much lesser extent Mjoll, suffer the same lack of character development. I loved the companions and their backstories in FONV (not to mention the companion wheel), and the epic Willow Companion mod was the icing on the cake.

 

Having said that all that though, I don't think anything will match my very first playthrough of FO3. It was my first open-world game experience and despite playing completely vanilla (hadn't even heard of mods when I first started playing it), and having brutal stability issues for the longest time, it was simply mind-blowing. It's been so long since I played FO3 I wonder if I wouldn't change my vote to that game if I were to play it again.

[Joshico]

Great replys! I added in a Oblivion option, didn't quite realized sum ppl still prefer that game at the time :whistling:

As a side-note Oblivion was very special to me, since it was my first real open-world game that I played, wish I could experience seeing the IC in the distant the first time again :wink:

[llamaRCA]

Having said that all that though, I don't think anything will match my very first playthrough of FO3.

 

This. It was so epic! That first moment out of the vault. Priceless. My favorite of all of the games on the list.

 

I had trouble liking NV at first, because it isn't as much of a romp as FO3 is, but I have a greater appreciation for NV now than I did at first (love all that dialogue now), especially since Skyrim has proven so incredibly disappointing. The writing for most of the NPCs is bad, the writing for the quests is mostly bad, everything is so shallow. I don't find it to be as good as Oblivion either. Yes, it's gorgeous and a pleasure to run around in, but I just got too bored to keep playing it. The amazing gameworld just isn't enough.

[Lachdonin]

To be honest, i never, once, downloaded a mod for Fallout 3 or New Vegas. In fact, i prefer both on the Xbox to my PC copies, which continue to just gather dust...

 

Straight out of the box, i think Skyrim is better than any of the other options. Admitedly, as a long-time Fallout player, i may be somewhat biased against the Bethesda Fallout (great though it may be) and that may be skewing my opinion on the subject. On the other hand, i had to avoid the Rivet City and the Strip as much as possible, because of an infuriating low flying helecoptor (IE an audio glitch which caused an increasingly high volume, absolutely painful sound) which kinda ruined things.

[kevkiev]

Having said that all that though, I don't think anything will match my very first playthrough of FO3.

 

This. It was so epic! That first moment out of the vault. Priceless. My favorite of all of the games on the list.

 

I had trouble liking NV at first, because it isn't as much of a romp as FO3 is, but I have a greater appreciation for NV now than I did at first (love all that dialogue now), especially since Skyrim has proven so incredibly disappointing. The writing for most of the NPCs is bad, the writing for the quests is mostly bad, everything is so shallow. I don't find it to be as good as Oblivion either. Yes, it's gorgeous and a pleasure to run around in, but I just got too bored to keep playing it. The amazing gameworld just isn't enough.

 

Llama!!! (Hi :tongue:)

 

Yeah, totally agree - skyrim is all about the gameworld and very little else. The storyline and character development ... yikes.

 

Another thing that I tend to forget 'til I go back to FONV is the ability to pan the camera around your character when in motion, like in FO3 and FONV. I was simply floored when I first realized that wasn't possible in Skyrim. (Please please please, Bethesda, make FO4 have that feature.)

 

But, yeah, I don't think I'll ever forget that first time my emerged from V101. I was like "oh... my... gawd". (I remember I immediately went adventuring around and, somehow even at that low level, ran smack dab into a Deathclaw. Welcome to the Capital Wasteland! :ohdear: )

[SergeantGrrock]

Fallout 3... hands down. To me FONV was just a really good sequel and Skyrim was just way to buggy and the gameplay felt empty a lot of the time. I was excited to fire up FO3 from begining to end. It's been said already but... I'm more into guns than swords and magic too. All 3 were money well spent by my account. Never played Oblivion... sounds like it was my loss.

[Perraine]

For overall depth and making you feel like part of the story, it's without a doubt a win for FO3 ... Gawd, they have you starting at birth FFS! ...

 

FO:NV doesn't really make you feel like you're a part of the game world (who are you? where are you from? how did you get there?) A HUGE !!!! mistake that Bugthesda made with Skyrim as well. But for overall functionality and scope it would have to be a win FO:NV.

 

Finally for "atmosphere" and prettiness I guess it would be Skyrim, as mentioned above, Skyrim seems to be more about the world rather than any story or plot ...

 

It always makes me chuckle when I see people claim that NV or FO3 were buggy and crashed all the time ...

I bought both games on release (actually pre-order for NV) and both have been rock solid stable for me, without any real issues with bugs or broken quests/actions. FO:NV particularly never crashed or bugged out once and I played that through several time ... On the other hand, for me, I can't play Skyrim for more than 10 mins without some AI error, Havok error or any other weird, immersion breaking glitch (i'm looking at you flying mammoth!) and have NEVER been able to play for more than 1/2 hour without it just exiting to desktop (not really a "crash" because iot doesn't "stop responding" it just exits!)

[kevkiev]

Man, all this talk about FO3 has me clearing out HD space for Capital Wasteland mods - I may just give that game another go asap. Especially since I haven't played it for so long, I think it'll be awesomeness all over again. But Llama's working on a new Willow version for FONV in the next while too.... OMG, I may never leave the house again.

 

edit: more and more I think stability is in part just plain luck. I got FO3 on release, played it completely vanilla for ages and it was a total crashfest. Eventually cured, mind you, but... yikes... that first while was horrendous.

Edited August 26, 2012 by kevkiev

[Joshico]

Man, all this talk about FO3 has me clearing out HD space for Capital Wasteland mods - I may just give that game another go asap. Especially since I haven't played it for so long, I think it'll be awesomeness all over again. But Llama's working on a new Willow version for FONV in the next while too.... OMG, I may never leave the house again.

 

edit: more and more I think stability is in part just plain luck. I got FO3 on release, played it completely vanilla for ages and it was a total crashfest. Eventually cured, mind you, but... yikes... that first while was horrendous.

I'll doubt you'll regret it, I just recently played and finished my latest FO3 playthrough (Cause I was feeling nostalgic after playing Skyrim for awhile) and it was still refreshing and original each time.

 

I also realized that the combat was a lot more fun in FO3, maybe cause I have keep using cover ;D But it was also a reeal long time since I played it, so I forgot how f***ed it was :sad:

Always did enjoyed a post-apocalyptic setting, its always interesting to see how the aftermath is.. plus its dark! :biggrin:

[Javalin]

I like all of them.

 

In terms of how the game is as a whole, and replay value.. New Vegas has the edge without question; and here is my reasons for this:

 

Multiple Outcomes or "Career Paths" if you want:- Caesar's Legion, NCR, Mr House, Yes Man - Multiple scenarios, but they all aim for the ultimate goal.. 4 Story Lines. I really wish it was created on the engine that Skyrim uses.

 

 

This is closely followed by Oblivion, Skyrim then Fallout 3 coming in last place.

 

Oblivion - While the game had it's flaws. The thing that bugged me the most out of it all, was the fact that Bethesda bragged about its super AI system. But what it really was, is NPCs talking to other NPCs about how they bought an item from a shop which is owned by themselves or characters looking the same regardless of race (Unless it was an Orc) - Required HEAVY amounts of modding to make them look different.. I particularly enjoyed the Thieves Guild quest line; I loved the Stealth in that game, it wasn't too easy or too hard. Many many quests, even though it was very buggy and required a lot of patching etc. (Athletics and Acrobatics.. Thank god this was removed in Skyrim) - The combat system wasn't all that great either. The game was impossible at the highest difficulty. (Spending hours wailing a sword at a skeleton)

 

Skyrim - Fixed a lot of the problems in Oblivion; The AI system is much better, the combat system, graphics, Sadly, a lot of things fell flat on its face. The questing was far too linear, although there is a lot of quests; most of them felt the same over and over. The Thieves Guild, being a favourite in the predecessor game - Felt more like following a personal vendetta. The final quest of the Thieves Guild in Oblivion was a TRUE thief quest.

 

Stealth is quite broken in Skyrim.. As soon as you max it out, and have a perk or two to increase its effectiveness; You can pretty much stand there humping the leg of an enemy and they don't even seem to realise you're there. Even in the relatively well-lit rooms. The game wasn't all that "Immersive" while it does vastly improve on a lot of Oblivion's things.. a lot of "Promises" which were made to how much better the game will be; fell flat. Dawnguard didn't really improve much.. Just a very annoying companion (Serana) although she definitely has an interesting AI and the conversations with her were interesting too.

 

Fallout 3 - Replay value very small, the game becomes next to Impossible at Max Level due to Albino Scorpions. Improvement to some systems which were in Oblivion; but overall.. Pretty lame in comparison.