I'd like to work on the Arena...

[Skaera75b]

I've found the holding bay for 'Grand Champion'. But the Giant Dreugh's too big, I'm getting errors. I've placed it in the centre of the arena, checking 'respawn'. I've set a reference, I hope it works.

[Skaera75b]

I changed all references to a bear in Ysabel's dialogue to one I made for a giant land dreugh- I scrolled down, I've changed every reference. Still, a bear appears.

 

Everything I changed, OKd and saved has reverted to that bear reference. It's ignoring me. I don't want a flaming bear, I want my Giant Dreugh.

[ihateregisteringeverywhere]

I think that theese things are controlled in the ArenaICGrandChampion quest quest script. Check it out - You might notice that the result script of a choice of monsters you make changes the variable "FightType" in the ArenaICGrandChampion quest script and then starts this quest. If you open up the script you'll notice that that's the script that chooses the refs.

 

I myself have been trying to find the topic theese what'r'ya'goin'ta'fight choices are linked from, so that you could create a special choice activable at all levels and link it back to that topic. Problem is I can't find anything lol.

 

EDIT> Ah, found it, stupid me - didn't notice that both Yssabel and Owyn have the same topic for starting a match "Ready for a match" so when I saw a list full of Owyns I thought I'm looking at the wrong topic lol.

 

Anyway, to test my theorem I made a new topic in the ArenaDialogue quest. I renamed it to "ICMonSpecialChoice", Gave it the topic text "I want a special match", I copied the response text from a different topic "You're ready to fight? Good, good! All right then, head up to the Arena and give the people a great show! " and changed the sound file to that as well because I'm lazy :P (Good enough for testing purposes I guess). And added it as a response to all of the "Ready for a match" topics.

 

All that's left to do is to Create that monster, place a reff, copy the script from another ArenaICMon topic, but change the "FightType" to "19" and change the ArenaICGrandChamption quest script a bit to start the right reff.

[Skaera75b]

this is great...! I've just finished making all the Giant creatures I want- mostly spider and insect like creatures, as they tend to be the scariest ones when made gigantic. I've used stock 'Test' models, and hopefully not interfered with anything much else. This is going to be an amazing thing when it's finished!

 

My plan is to have Ysabel deal with title challenges, and have Owyn do the creatures- taking over from Ysabel, really. I just feel bad for the guy.

 

Thanks so much!

[ihateregisteringeverywhere]

I'd rather if Owyn got more human challenges. "Awrite, I'll ask the yellow team if they want to chalenge you - again, if you promise not to kill any of them." ;D.

 

"Seems like the imperial guard caught some pirates - well they actualy agreed to come peacefully in case they'd get a mellow sentence. They made the mistake of calling senator Ocato a "Tartball" so they've been put into the arena instead. This means that you'll have to fight the whole crew, which consists out of 6 people"

 

Or something to that effect, the only problem would be, that you'd have to change the normal arena scripts as well, or create a new arena just for theese special encounters.

 

As a matter of fact that would be the smart thing to do because then there'd be a smaller chance to break anything ;D.

[Skaera75b]

Okay, actually I'm with you there- leave creatures to Ysabel, as it already is, and have Owyn handle the NPC battles. That's cool. Thanks for all your help so far, seriously, I'm stumped if I know how to do any of this.

[ihateregisteringeverywhere]

Well you seem to be making progress, just ask specific questions and you'll get specific answers.

 

It's not realy that hard. This was actualy the third time I used either the script or quest editors. I find modeling harder.

[Skaera75b]

I'm getting to grips with GIMP and Nifskope... I tried 3DSMax, but it was too hard to work. I just hope, in the end, this mod is liked. I'm sure there's no way I'm the only one who found it irritating, how quickly you outgrow the arena.

[Skaera75b]

I should definitely get into modding. I mean, better. It'd be good if I could just show up with something incredible from time to time. Still, I guess people want that in whatever field they're working in.

 

I hope there isn't a similar arena mod out there... I've been looking, making my own was a last resort. I couldn't find anything that allowed fighting an opposing team, or giant creatures. Well no, there was a giant creatures arena mod- a New Worlds mod, where you fought on a platform-like arena. It was fun, but I wanted it to be in the IC Arena, or a new one.

 

I just wish it was easier. I'll never be able to do this on my own. I mean, I want it done whatever happens- I just don't think I'll be able to learn everything I need to before my attention span runs out and this mod turns to dust, so I'll be requiring assistance. I don't think anyone's ever tried the opposing team / giant creatures arena crossover before. It's pretty specific, haha...

[Skaera75b]

New concept. Much simpler- shouldn't be any problems here.

 

I've found a mod called Arena of the Dead. It places an Ayleid door just outside of Bruma, and past it is an enlarged arena full of skeletons.

 

Another mod I found had books. Once you selected a book, a script was activated which placed combatants inside the arena.

 

This strikes me as an easier way of doing it, and it leaves the original arena alone. So here's my plan.

 

I move my Black Team over to this new mod. I place my black team inside this new arena, and make two statues just towards where the Bloodworks *would* be, were this the IC Arena. When those statues are activated- one for giant creatures, one for NPCs- possibly a menu screen for each, allowing you to select your opponant- rank, number etc.

 

Is this any easier? That way, dialogue is completely avoided, and the scripts should be easier to mod. Also, the new arena's much bigger, so giant creatures will fit better.