XxEmHoasxX Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 So basically, whenever I enter a major city my game will CTD with no error message. And I recently went to Riften, opened the main gate to go inside and CTD'd. When re-loading Skyrim I looked at my most recent save which was an auto-save inside of Riften and the thumbnail image was just static... Any help would be much appreciated. My load order directly from LOOT: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 7 7 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 8 8 RSkyrimChildren.esm 9 9 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 10 a notice board.esp 11 b ApachiiHair.esm 12 c Cutting Room Floor.esp 13 d Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 14 e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 15 f Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 16 10 FNIS.esp 17 11 SkyUI.esp 18 12 RaceMenu.esp 19 13 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 20 14 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 21 15 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp 22 16 WetandCold.esp 23 17 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 24 18 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 25 19 Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp 26 1a The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp 27 1b immersive roads.esp 28 1c JKs Skyrim.esp 29 1d RichMerchants.esp 30 1e 3DNPC.esp 31 1f 12FemaleBrows.esp 32 20 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 33 21 Blowing in the Wind.esp 34 22 Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp 35 23 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 36 24 Immersive Weapons.esp 37 25 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 38 26 Inconsequential NPCs.esp Blowing in the Wind - JK's Skyrim Patch.esp 39 27 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 40 28 Inigo.esp 41 29 Cloaks.esp 42 2a UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 43 2b BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp 44 2c Bijin AIO.esp 45 2d Bijin NPCs.esp 46 2e Bijin Warmaidens.esp 47 2f Bijin Wives.esp 48 30 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp 49 31 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 50 32 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 51 33 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 52 34 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 53 35 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp 54 36 FNISSexyMove.esp 55 37 Immersive Wenches.esp 56 38 Immersive Patrols II.esp 57 39 Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp 58 3a imp_helm_legend.esp 59 3b PCE - Marked Droppable Barenziah Stones.esp 60 3c SofiaFollower.esp 61 3d The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 62 3e RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 63 3f RSChildren.esp 64 40 ScarletDawnArmor.esp 65 41 Serana.esp 66 42 Unique Uniques.esp 67 43 VioLens.esp 68 44 Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp 69 45 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp 70 46 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 71 47 RDO - UFO v1.2i Patch.esp 72 48 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 73 49 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 74 4a Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suvanto Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I have few ideas.You are using both Dance of Death and VioLens. Both are editing same things. I would stick with just VioLens, to avoid conflicts.Become High King of Skyrim was last updated October 2013. Mod does not carry over any changes from mods loading above it, like Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch. High risk of causing problems.FNIS Sexy Move can stress your Papyrus quite a lot. With other mods you are using, it is certain to stress it quite a lot.UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul is very badly out of date and has proven to cause several issues. Your current crashes could potentially get caused by it alone, though stuff I mentioned above will not help the situation at all. I would recommend rebuilding this mod list with more up to date mods, ditching the ones that are potentially causing issues and starting a new game. Also keep in mind that it is not safe to uninstall any scripted mods from ongoing game. You did not mention doing so, but I wanted to underline that, because I recommended rebuilding the mod list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesoZaKiddo Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) I have few ideas.You are using both Dance of Death and VioLens. Both are editing same things. I would stick with just VioLens, to avoid conflicts.Become High King of Skyrim was last updated October 2013. Mod does not carry over any changes from mods loading above it, like Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch. High risk of causing problems.FNIS Sexy Move can stress your Papyrus quite a lot. With other mods you are using, it is certain to stress it quite a lot.UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul is very badly out of date and has proven to cause several issues. Your current crashes could potentially get caused by it alone, though stuff I mentioned above will not help the situation at all.so its True that Violens is better?! Yay!Become king of skyrim - didnt install the mod but had a back up, will delet the modEFF for the win!! whenever I enter a major city my game will CTD with no error messageme also, so the work around on this is to fast travel to stables, atlas map maker mod, and enter the city like you mean it. Edited June 27, 2019 by DesoZaKiddo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButtonSmasher Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 25 19 Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp 26 1a The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.espThese 2 mods could also be the cause of you crashing. I think The great Cities also edits the Palaces/Castles in the game. Conflicts with each other and then crashes.You said on the save you could see only static, maybe you didn't install Minor Cities and Town well? Or you're missing meshes or something may be overwritten the mod.Remove UFO, as Suvanto saidFNIS shouldn't really bring issue to your NPC's as it only changes the way they walk, but if installed incorrectly it could indeed break the game. (But it only happens in cities so i don't think this will be the issues)Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.espYou probably need a patch for Minor Cities and Towns here too.. Immersive Citizens change the paths they walk, which could cause conflicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButtonSmasher Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 JKs Skyrim.espPalaces Castles Enhanced.espThe Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.espI checked again: Choose one... You WILL have to delete one and probably start over because this is the reason why you crash. Never EVER download multiple city overhauls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suvanto Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 FNIS shouldn't really bring issue to your NPC's as it only changes the way they walk, but if installed incorrectly it could indeed break the game. (But it only happens in cities so i don't think this will be the issues) Each affected NPC is given a token and game has to check them individually to assign the walking style. This means that Papyrus will create a check per female NPC in the area. This can become a problem, if multiply checks are being made. Which is why I have preferred using mods that change walking styles universally. Less "immersive", but also less stressful for Papyrus, if mods are causing game to create multiply extra checks on cells or NPCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButtonSmasher Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 FNIS shouldn't really bring issue to your NPC's as it only changes the way they walk, but if installed incorrectly it could indeed break the game. (But it only happens in cities so i don't think this will be the issues) Each affected NPC is given a token and game has to check them individually to assign the walking style. This means that Papyrus will create a check per female NPC in the area. This can become a problem, if multiply checks are being made. Which is why I have preferred using mods that change walking styles universally. Less "immersive", but also less stressful for Papyrus, if mods are causing game to create multiply extra checks on cells or NPCs. Hmm never had an issue with the FNIS Sexy Move. The only real problem i can see here is that he has 2 city overhauls. One that changes cells almost completely. JK's Skyrim as example just adds a few things but if it comes in contact with an item from the Town/City overhaul he installed it would probably crash. Even though it's weird he only sees static when he looks at his loadfile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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