CTD help please

[billymonster]

I cant figure out why i keep getting random CTD's. It seems to happen mostly after fast traveling ,but not always. It can happen after 10 minutes of playing or sometimes several hours.

 

If i run loot to sort then skyrim just sits at the skyrim dragon logo with a spinning circle at the bottom right of the screen. i got it to load correctly by placing ussep above rskyrimchildren and lanterns of skyrim where loot place it after these 2 and caused it to not go past the dragon logo. so basically the following load order is after loot sorting but with the ussep patch moved up 2 places so i can get past the first screen.

 

 

Please help me fix the crashes

 

 

My pc is

i7 8700k

32GB ram

1080 ti

 

Load order is

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 RSkyrimChildren.esm
6 6 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
8 8 BSAssets.esm
9 9 BSHeartland.esm
10 a BS_DLC_patch.esp
11 b LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
12 c arnima.esm
13 d Falskaar.esm
14 e LCHB_HomeBase.esm
15 f SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
254 FE 0 Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp
254 FE 1 Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
16 10 LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp
17 11 SkyUI_SE.esp
18 12 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
19 13 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
20 14 Vivid WeathersSE.esp
21 15 Cutting Room Floor.esp
22 16 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
23 17 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
24 18 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
25 19 DBM_ISC_Patch.esp
254 FE 2 Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp
26 1a IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
27 1b CBBE.esp
28 1c RaceMenu.esp
29 1d RaceMenuPlugin.esp
30 1e 50 More Perk Points.esp
31 1f Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
32 20 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
33 21 Rigmor.esp
34 22 JKs Skyrim.esp
35 23 LC_Citadel.esp
36 24 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
37 25 LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp
38 26 moonpath.esp
39 27 JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp
40 28 Run For Your Lives.esp
41 29 Inigo.esp
42 2a BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
43 2b RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp
44 2c RSChildren.esp
45 2d UnreadBooksGlow.esp
46 2e AMatterOfTime.esp
47 2f HearthfireMultiKid.esp
48 30 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
49 31 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
50 32 Immersive Weapons.esp
51 33 ExperienceMultipliers.esp
52 34 Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp
53 35 Vivid Weathers SE - Falskaar.esp
54 36 KS Hairdo's.esp
55 37 Bijin Warmaidens.esp
56 38 Bijin NPCs.esp
57 39 Bijin Wives.esp
254 FE 3 Qw_BarenziahQuestMarkers_USSEP Patch.esp
58 3a DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp
59 3b DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp
60 3c Immersive Patrols II.esp
61 3d SofiaFollower.esp
62 3e DBM_IW_Patch.esp
63 3f Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
64 40 notice board.esp
65 41 ForgottenCity.esp
66 42 Lucien.esp
254 FE 4 Qw_SofiaFollower_USSEP Patch.esp
67 43 DBM_IA_Patch.esp
68 44 DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
254 FE 5 JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp
69 45 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
70 46 DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp
71 47 My Home Is Your Home.esp
72 48 Ish's Souls to Perks.esp
73 49 DBM_RSChildren.esp
74 4a RSC Beyond Reach Patch.esp
75 4b RSC CRF Patch.esp
76 4c RSC Falskaar Patch.esp
77 4d RSC Forgotten City Patch.esp
78 4e RSC Rigmor Patch.esp
79 4f Lucien-Moonpath-Patch.esp
80 50 TimingIsEverything.esp
81 51 ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
82 52 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
83 53 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
84 54 Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
85 55 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
254 FE 6 RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Reach.esp
254 FE 7 RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp
254 FE 8 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
254 FE 9 JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp

Edited July 13, 2019 by billymonster

[anjenthedog]

I was playing under the same "onus" on my first character. I got into the habit of doing a new save every 5 minutes to ensure I didn't lose progress. Eventually, after the 1.5.80 update, she became unplayable and afaik, unrecoverable...

 

SO... I created a new character and started playing him, but I still liked my original fem character, so I spent the time to go back in the save list until I found one that was clean and didn't crash on save/load (like the original character had been doing after update). Had to go back to level 16, but she (now level 26) doesn't suffer from excessive CTDs I was experincing with the broken version, so something I did along the way beyond level 16 was (or were) the issue(s) that led to her downfall. Not sure what it/they was/were, and at this point I no longer care. Getting to level 52, I probably did the same amount of work of getting to level 100 or more had the CTDs not been happening, what with all the lost levels and lost time I spent with the L17-L52 version that finally became unplayable.

 

So... you may lose progress, but if the character is "critical" to your gameplay (for whatever reasons), I'd suggest digging back into the character saves to find one that no longer experiences constant CTDs.

[billymonster]

So nothing obviously wrong with my load order ?

Another question why does loot place USSSEP after RSkyrimChildren and Lanterns of Skrim when it obviously wont load that way?

Even their own mod pages say that they shold be before USSEP Patch in the load order.

What issues could this cause if they are loaded after USSEP ?

[anjenthedog]

I'm not sure. It's easy enough for a newb like me to understand how racemenu type ordering (ie, overlay tones, tattoos, makeup, hair, etc) works, but at least for me, being relatively new, it's way fuzzier when it comes to patch stuff. Although... in general, patches should be done last conceptually (In programming, a patch usually is apllied *over - ie, after - an existing piece of code that it is augmenting or repairing), unless when the patch is required to ensure some other "newer" mod works, since the newer mod was ostensibly coded with the presumption that the patch was already in place prior to encountering its code.

 

I'm not super savvy on skyrim configuration nuances yet, so I rely mainly on Vortex telling me there's a contention, and surprisingly, so far (current load order is 204 items long), and afaik, without exception, recommending the correct or A correct course of action (blah vs blech... load blah before blech? (recommended)" to properly stack all the modules, along with reading the descriptions and requirements sections of mod download pages to "guess" when it doesn't provide a recommended load order. In my limited experience, the only time when it's a "A correct" rather than "the correct" is regarding when/how to load a group of enb or racemenu overlays (subjective)

 

So, I have fiddled with a few race-menu enb load orders, but that's just asthetics, not code fixes.

 

If you find that there's some weird contention like this USSEP issue you're apparently encountering, maybe contact the mod author(s) of the involved mod(s) and ask if there's possibly an undocumented or otherwise apriori-presumed requirement? (ie well, I assumed that everyone knew they needed..."