Crowfar Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) I have played the game for quite a period of time with hundreds of mods (over 300 esp plugins; don't know how it's possible). A while ago, I finally updated to 2.0.16 and installed a few more mods. The save now insists that I am missing one major mod, but it keeps changing its mind about which one it is. First it was Ordinator. I checked and found that it was enabled and that everything was in order, but reinstalled it anyway and ran LOOT. Now, it is Imperious that is the problem. Starting a new game confirmed that it was indeed not there, and reinstalls changed nothing. I recently tried running LOOT again, and this time my efforts only succeeded in changing the missing mod to Palaces and Castles Enhanced. It's just a symptom of something worse, I think. When I actually open a save - even ones from a new game - everything goes berserk. Notifications from various mods fire randomly, and the spell Frostbite shoots out of my character's face. I don't recall exactly which mods I added, but I remember being sure that none of them were the problem. Going over the plugin limit is possibly the cause, but then why was I able to get away with it for so long? EDIT: Reinstalling SSE didn't work, either. Edited July 14, 2019 by Crowfar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowfar Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 Does anyone have any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefrorefiddle Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 What happens when you disable enough mods to be back under the plugin limit? Maybe something from the newest update reinforced the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjenthedog Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Have you gone back through your saves to find one that doesn't misbehave? I had to 'back-peddle' my level 52 character to level 16 (ie slowly going through the myriad of saves until I found one that worked without issue) before I got things sorted out after the 1.5.80/2.0.16 (and all the other mods that were updated) update. A new character (now level 34) I created during the interim has experienced zero issues (aside from a very small number of CTDs) And the original character has been played from 16 up to level 30 and is also not experiencing any "hanky panky" either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowfar Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) I was hoping someone would recognize the specific issue... guess I have to bite the bullet and learn how to merge plugins. Forgot to mention - I use MO2, if by any chance that helps. Have you gone back through your saves to find one that doesn't misbehave? I had to 'back-peddle' my level 52 character to level 16 (ie slowly going through the myriad of saves until I found one that worked without issue) before I got things sorted out after the 1.5.80/2.0.16 (and all the other mods that were updated) update. A new character (now level 34) I created during the interim has experienced zero issues (aside from a very small number of CTDs) And the original character has been played from 16 up to level 30 and is also not experiencing any "hanky panky" either. As I said, the issues apply even in new games (but only once I load them; first time around they seem to work). Edited July 22, 2019 by Crowfar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjenthedog Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I use vortex exclusively for installing mods. Most I install "transparently" via the links here in nexus, a few (all my followers, so I can archive the mods in case the author deletes them for whatever reason) I download to harddrive and install locally, but in both cases, I use vortex to sort out the details. SE is not oldrim and to be honest, although I'm not a long time player, I'm not too sure MO is still a valid methodology. Many if not most of the lingering, post 1.5.80/2.0.16 game crashing issues I read about are coming from those who are continuing to use the oldrim philosophy of low level manipulation using MO/loot etc. If it works for you great, but apparently it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowfar Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 How on Earth can you get by with 300+ mods not using LOOT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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