sothpaw Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Hi there, I just got excited and downloaded the quad shotgun mod from the site. I was originally confused that my game would CTD whenever I attempted to fire it. However, with some limited testing, I've noticed that this is happening with *every* weapon that uses shotgun shells. I did notice recently also that my names on my ammo have changed significantly. For example, what was .308 ammo is now 7.62X 51nm (308). I assumed that getting the latest versions of AWKR, VIS-Item Sorting, VIS G would solve the problem, but it hasn't. Still geting CTD when trying to use my AA12, Combat Shotgun, Quad Shotgun, etc. So I'm hoping I could get some help on where to start and what to do. I appreciate any help. Thank You. PS: I can't look in FO4Edit to try and find a conflict. It tells me I have too many mods and shuts down. I do have a LOT of mods... 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AE - Always On.esp=1Jetpacks FAO.esp=1PA Animated Jetpacks - AE - Always On (Upper).esp=1LegendaryModification Combined - 2LM and DLC's.esp=1Armorsmith Automatron.esp=1zWPED.esp=0001__ElectroMagnetPulseRifle.esp=1ShieldBoy.esp=1PowerArmorHoarder.esp=1Snappy_HouseK.esp=1SanctuaryParts.esp=1fathercompanion.esp=1ImprovedSolarCannon.esp=1PortableRecycler.esp=0SleepIntimate.esp=1SleepIntimateX_Anims.esp=1HN66-SiriusArmor.esp=1SuperMutantRedux_VIS-G_Patch.esp=1Sunshine.esp=1Archimedes-II.esp=1NanoArmor.esp=0NanoArmor_AWKCR_AE.esp=0Eli_RuggedOutfits.esp=1AEWS.esp=1ArdentBlade.esp=1AQUILA.esp=1NexusMenu.esp=0Improved BFG9000.esp=1FemsheppingsLastOutfitPack.esp=1B-90SentinelSuit.esp=1Marmo1233 - Immersive Settlers.esp=1WIPAG_Decal Station.esp=1WIPAG_Paint Garage - Full (Easy).esp=1WIPAG_Power Armor Overhaul.esp=1JJJackCabotFix.esp=1MF-75.esp=0MF-VIS_patch.esp=1MF-WATM_patch.esp=0BetterVertibirdMinigun300.esp=1DogmeatVaultSuit.esp=1CGSX92AM AWKCR Patch (ESL).esp=1TransferSettlements.esp=1LooksMenu.esp=1K9TacticalHarness.esp=1TTP_VendorStalls.esp=1F4NVServiceRifleRedux_Patch_Uniques.esp=1Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp=1BetterSettlers.esp=1BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp=1Edit_Hancock.esp=1Mechanist Lair Overhaul SEC.esp=1ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp=1bunkerhillrevamp.esp=1ProjectValkyrie.esp=1EG7.esp=0Liberator.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve40 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 You seem to have exceeded the 255 limit for esm+esp mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sothpaw Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 I'm aware that it's showing that on my mod list. However, not all of the mods are in an activated state. Esm and esp mods total out at 248 active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve40 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I have a lot of faith in FO4Edit. If it can't even load all your mods, then you have a serious problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sothpaw Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 I have a lot of faith in FO4Edit. If it can't even load all your mods, then you have a serious problem.Er... ok thanks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sothpaw Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 Is there anyone available who is familiar with Vis G, Vis Sorting, AKWR? I'm thinking that perhaps one of these changed the shotgun shells to 12 gauge shotgun shells or something of the sort. I know that in previous Bethesda games changing the name or reference point of an object will result in CTD. I'm thinking that this is where I should be looking? I won't have the time to play the deactivate and see what happens roulette until my next day off. I'd imagine that somewhere, this has happened to another. But a few quick searches on the subject came up dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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