CTD will be the Death of me

[ValanyTheHarbinger]

Hello, friends.

 

I have tried now countless times to get my Skyrim up and running again. For a while it worked, but now I suffer constant crashes when I travel outside.

At first I thought it was involved with either a Mod that enhances the Lighting or Weather, since it mostly occured during Snowy days and Rain or when I was trying to walk underneath Torches in dungeons.

 

Now I am not so sure anymore.

 

I have used LOOT for the Masterlist and cleaned every Mod as instructed.

However, the crashes still occure.

 

I disabled every Mod and reactivated them after 30 mins of playtime, visiting various places that have caused crashes before.

So far I have disabled and deleted every single Mod that caused problems outright or after the first 12 minutes of playtime.

The ones in this following list never caused troubles on their own, so I guess they're disrupting each other somehow.

 

Please help!

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 WM Flora Fixes.esp
7 7 WinterholdDestruction.esm
8 8 EagleEyePerk_half_stamina.esm
9 9 ApachiiHair.esm
10 a ApachiiHairFemales.esm
11 b ApachiiHairMales.esm
12 c RaceCompatibility.esm
13 d Campfire.esm
14 e SexLab.esm
15 f SexLabAroused.esm
16 10 SharedSeranaDialogue.esm
17 11 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
18 12 OSA.esm
19 13 Skyrim Project Optimization.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
20 14 Cutting Room Floor.esp
21 15 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
22 16 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
23 17 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
24 18 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
25 19 Animallica.esp
26 1a Convenient Horses.esp
27 1b Animated Dragon Wings.esp
28 1c FNIS.esp
29 1d The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
30 1e XPMSE.esp
31 1f SOSRaceMenu.esp
32 20 CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
33 21 Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp
34 22 DragonShoutVoice.esp
35 23 chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp
36 24 ADS.esp
37 25 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
38 26 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
39 27 ORM-Arvak.esp
40 28 Vivid Weathers.esp
41 29 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
42 2a Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
43 2b Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
44 2c UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
45 2d SkyUI.esp
46 2e AchieveThat.esp
47 2f Character Creation Overhaul.esp
48 30 CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
49 31 CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
50 32 CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
51 33 Command Dragon.esp
52 34 ImmediateDragons.esp
53 35 Improved Dragon Shouts.esp
54 36 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp
55 37 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp
56 38 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp
57 39 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp
58 3a moveit.esp
59 3b LFox Pickpocketing Chance Caps at 100.esp
60 3c RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp
61 3d BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
62 3e TradeBarter.esp
63 3f UsefulDogs.esp
64 40 ApachiiHairStyles.esp
65 41 Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp
66 42 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
67 43 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
68 44 Snazzy Furniture and Clutter Overhaul.esp
69 45 Sanctuary Reborn.esp
70 46 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
71 47 Unique Shops and Stores.esp
72 48 Skyrim Romance Animated.esp
73 49 Thieves Guild Redone.esp
74 4a Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp
75 4b SexLab_Solutions.esp
76 4c Original Opening Scene.esp
77 4d Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp
78 4e Books of Skyrim.esp
79 4f LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
80 50 marriagemod - alpha v3.esp
81 51 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
82 52 TheChoiceIsYours.esp
83 53 ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp
84 54 SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
85 55 Blaze Of Eventide.esp
86 56 wizDynamicThings.esp
87 57 Run For Your Lives.esp
88 58 Sleeved Guards.esp
89 59 ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp
90 5a CharacterMakingExtender.esp
91 5b EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
92 5c The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
93 5d towConversation.esp
94 5e FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
95 5f getSnowy.esp
96 60 mealtimeyum.esp
RSRainCOT.esp
97 61 RSRain.esp
98 62 Chesko_LevelUp.esp
99 63 WetandCold.esp
100 64 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
101 65 HarvestOverhaul.esp
102 66 HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
103 67 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
104 68 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
105 69 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
106 6a SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
107 6b UniqueBarbas.esp
108 6c AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
109 6d UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
110 6e The Worship of Daedra.esp
111 6f dawnguard sentries.esp
112 70 UniqueBorderGates-All.esp
113 71 Immersive Patrols II.esp
114 72 Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp
115 73 Frostfall.esp
116 74 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
117 75 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
118 76 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
119 77 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
120 78 Random Alternate Start.esp
121 79 SexLab_Dialogues.esp
122 7a Signs_of_Skyrim.esp
123 7b CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
124 7c Catsofskyrim.esp
125 7d SpousesEnhanced.esp
126 7e Dogsofskyrim.esp
127 7f The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
128 80 Reaper's The Dark Tower.esp
129 81 FollowerWander2.esp
130 82 FollowerWander2Serana.esp
131 83 NameYourHorse.esp
132 84 Another Daedric Artifacts.esp
133 85 Unicorn.esp
134 86 ThievesGuide2.esp
135 87 ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp
136 88 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
137 89 ESFCompanions.esp
138 8a Immersive Weapons.esp
139 8b Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
140 8c ScopedBows.esp
141 8d SBF All In One + DLC.esp
142 8e crimsonquestmarkers.esp
143 8f PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
144 90 Arcanum.esp
145 91 TimingIsEverything.esp
146 92 Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp
147 93 tryagain.esp
148 94 Males of Skyrim.esp
149 95 Sneak Tools.esp
150 96 BooksOfSkyrim.esp
151 97 CiceroOnSteroids.esp
152 98 iNeed.esp
153 99 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
154 9a Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
155 9b MeekoReborn.esp
156 9c Convenient Horse Herding.esp
157 9d Daedric Reaper Armor.esp
158 9e Real Clouds.esp
159 9f TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
160 a0 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
161 a1 TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp
162 a2 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
163 a3 SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
164 a4 Marriable Serana.esp
165 a5 Spousetocustomhome.esp
166 a6 Marriable Serana HF.esp
167 a7 PathOfSorcery.esp
168 a8 PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
169 a9 UltimateDragons.esp
170 aa ThievesGuildReq_LocalizedGuildJobs_Patch.esp
171 ab Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
172 ac Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
173 ad SexLab Approach.esp
174 ae SexLab Romance.esp
175 af SexLabZaZAnimations.esp
176 b0 SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp
177 b1 iHUD.esp
178 b2 RaceMenu.esp
179 b3 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
180 b4 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
181 b5 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
182 b6 dD-Medium Script Range.esp
183 b7 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
184 b8 Purewaters.esp
185 b9 ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp
186 ba ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp
187 bb Unique Uniques.esp
188 bc Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
189 bd Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
190 be RDO - UFO v1.2j.b15 Patch.esp
191 bf RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
192 c0 RDO - CACO Patch.esp
193 c1 Serana Dialogue Edit.esp
194 c2 ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp
195 c3 Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp

 

PS: Go ahead and judge me for having some of the SexLab mods on here. i don't care. I live for immersion, new unique Characters and good written dialogues. :P

[Budderlettuce]

You have an absurd amount of script heavy mods. Good and calculated modders will add only one at a time and test their game thoroughly before adding another. There is plenty of reading material regarding these kinds of mods too, which tell you what they are (in)compatible with. I won't tease you for the SexLab stuff, but I will scorn you for not being on top of this stuff earlier on. It may be impossible for any one person to look at your mod list and say "that mod is causing you CTD".

 

For starters, create a BASHED PATCH. Just ask if you do not know what this is.

 

If your crashes continue, which they likely will, then you will need to cull half your mod load order at a time, and determine which half of your mods contain the problem. You can then pursue the half which has the CTD problem by adding/removing mods from the half that is under suspicion. You may do this simply by using a mod manager and tick/untick the mods as you see fit. Then enter the game with a new game and stress test the game: make potions, spawn enemies, engage in large scale battles. Take a note when/where/how the crash happens, if the game crashes at all.

 

I would recommend optimizing your .ini files, and improve your game memory by installed ENBoost, but this is all baseline stuff that I will assume you've already done. If not, speak up! I can help by directing you to external links that contribute to overall game stability.

 

That being said, I was aghast by the mods that you have. SMIM is a memory guzzler, you have several character editing mods, amazing follower tweaks and ultimate follower overhaul might conflict and the latter is largely outdated... I mean, you have the creme de la creme of Skyrim mods. All of them. And the reason they are as good as they are is that they transcend what the base game could ever handle through the scripts that they use. A few of them should never be a problem, but a heaping ton like how you have is bound to cause trouble. I can identify, just at a glance, which are the most script heavy, but I cannot be sure where the conflicts are coming from. And it is these inevitable conflicts between scripts that are likely causing your CTD, just to repeat myself once more.

 

I'll tune in to your progress and answer any more questions that you may have, good luck brotha!

 

-B.L.

Edited July 26, 2019 by Budderlettuce

[Budderlettuce]

Oh and always do the testing that I recommended on a new game for the best possible diagnosis. Removing a mod with attached scripts to an existing save will cause added instability and only confuse the issue at hand. This advice should go without saying but I figure I'd like to be crystal clear about it just in case. Good luck, once again!