AngelValis Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 If this should be posted elsewhere, please let me know. For some reason, almost none of the junk items are tagged or have icons. I'm told, and agree, that this is most likely a mod conflict, but I'm not really sure what I can do. I've been told I should probably move Vis-G lower in my LO, but I'm having issues doing that. I'm using Vortex and no matter what I try, it will not let me manually reorder Vis-G. I've tried setting rules to make sure all the patches for Vis-G load after it...and they don't move. Most of them ARE loading after Vis-G, but a few either can't move, like the .esl patches for Sim Settlements and the CC Chinese Stealth Suit, or won't move, like the .esp patches for FO4Hotkeys and Settlement Menu Manager, regardless of any rules I set. Vortex is also not allowing me to manually sort Vis-G; it won't let me select "locked to index". The only groups I have set are:Creation Club - contains only 6 CC modsDefault - contains 287 pluginsDLC - contains only the official DLC (all of it)Dynamic Patches - contains only my bashed patchFixes - contains only the UOFO4 PatchItems - contains only Armorsmith ExtendedScrap Everything - contains only Scrap Everything Ultimate Edition I didn't add anything to these groups; this is how they came when I installed them (I even removed some mods from groups to try to make sure groups weren't the issue). Here's my LO as it stands at the moment (VIS-G is 85 of 305): # Automatically generated by VortexFallout4.esmDLCRobot.esmDLCworkshop01.esmDLCCoast.esmDLCworkshop02.esmDLCworkshop03.esmDLCNukaWorld.esmccbgsfo4001-pipboy(black).eslccbgsfo4019-chinesestealtharmor.eslccbgsfo4020-powerarmorskin(black).eslccfsvfo4001-modularmilitarybackpack.eslccgcafo4011-factionws11vt.eslccgcafo4022-factionas11vt.eslUnofficial Fallout 4 Patch.espCC_ChineseStealthSuit_UnderArmor.eslDiamond City Security Mildly Expanded Leveled List - Outfits.eslJamaicaEx.eslArmorKeywords.esmCC Chinese Stealth Armor VIS-G Patch.eslNAC.esmSunshineEx.eslSanctuaryEx.eslCroupManorEx.eslSlogEx.eslCovenantEx.eslSpectacleEx.eslBunkerHillEx.eslStarlightDriveEx.eslHangManEx.eslWarwickEx.eslKingsportEx.eslRedRocketEx.eslSommervilleEx.eslCastleEx.eslMurkWaterEx.eslTenPinesEx.eslAbernathyEx.eslEgretToursEx.eslTaffingtonEx.eslFinchEx.eslGreenTopEx.eslGrayGardenEx.eslBostonAirportEx.eslOberlandEx.eslCountyCrossingEx.eslNordhagenEx.eslXDI.esmHUDFramework.esmSimSettlements.esmSim Settlements VIS-G Patch.eslWorkshopFramework.esmCoastalCottageEx.eslEchoLakeEx.eslLongfellowEx.eslNationalParkEx.eslDaltonFarmEx.eslSettlementKeywords.esmEthreonMasterPlan.esmHomemaker.esmImmersiveDogmeatQuietPaws.eslMors Shortcut to Curie.eslNukaWorldRedRocketEx.eslRRTV_RobotModelKits.eslScrapMachine.eslSimSettlements_IDEKsLogisticsStation.eslSnap'n Build.esmsniper_knockdown_to_bonus_damage.eslRusty Face Fix.eslFAR.eslFREEZEFIX.eslZimonjaEx.eslBallistic Weave Standardized.eslPowerArmorBackpacks.eslSettlementMenuManager.espSettlement Menu Manager VIS-G.espFO4Hotkeys.espFO4Hotkeys VIS-G.espMarmo1233 - Immersive Settlers.espHairVariations_YoungAtHeart.espHairVariations_Sophisticate.espHairVariations_FairyTails.espHairVariations_Conversions.espHairVariations_Elegant.espVIS-G Legendary Modifications.espVIS-G Item Sorting.espVIS-G Item Sorting Vanilla Weight Patch.espWorkshopRearranged.espVanillaExtensions.espg2m_Workshop_Nexus.espWM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.espWastelandFashionAccessories.espWastelandFashion.espWorkshopRearranged_SnB_Patch.espWorkshopRearranged_MasterPlan_Patch.espWastelandBillboards.espPassthrough.espVisibleWeapons.espVerticalConduits.espVendorCaps.espMoreVaultRooms.espWorkshopRearranged_MoreVaultRooms_Patch.espAS_Institute_Workstations.espAllSetsExtended.espASEFarHarbor.espDecal Stain Remover REDUX - All DLC.espBostonFPSFixAIO.espEli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.espA Sensible Prydwen Overhaul.espTheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.espSnappy_HouseK.espSnappy_DLC03.espBinoculars.espBoats.espLooksMenu.espCBBE.espdD-Realistic Ragdoll Force.espel_precursorsuit.espFO4LaserBolts - InstitutePurple.espFO4LaserBolts - NormalBlue.espFO4LaserBolts.espHomemaker - Bunker Disabler.espIcebreakerCDO-Settlements.espInsignificant Object Remover.espKindKasumi.espLockedSafesLegendaryLoot.espLots More Female Hairstyles.espMakanarPerkLifeGiverStrong.espMakanarPerkStrongBackScale2.espManufacturingExtended.espManufacturingExtendedFH.espMedKit.espMGSAiming.espMore Where That Came From - Classic.espMultiple Floors Sandboxing.espNAC-FarHarbor.espNAC-NukaWorld.espNightPerson_NoNightVision-FarHarbor.espNoTwigs.espNuclearPhysicistFix.espNukaFridge_Test1.espOCDecorator.espOCDecoratorDLC.espOCDispenser.espPA-Quick Animations.espPower Conduits and Pylons Overhaul - SKE.espPerceptionBugFix.espPlayer_No_Longer_Rudely_Interrupting_Dialogue_v0.1.espQuickTrade.espQuieter Settlements - Contraptions.espQuieter Settlements - Vanilla.espQuieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.espReducedEnergyRecoil.espSanctuaryParts.espWorkshopRearranged_SanctuaryParts_Patch.espSettlementPrivacy.espSettleObjExpandPack.espShorterNPCgreeting.espSimSettlements_CityPlanPack_ContestEntries.espSLR.espSPECIAL Points Fallout 3.espSweetTooth.espTheKite_CaitSet.espTheKite_HCD_SynthUniform.espTheKite_MilitiaWoman.espThematic and Practical.espThematic and Practical - DLC.espAzarPonytailHairstyles.espThe Eyes Of Beauty.espArmorsmith Extended.espTheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden AE patch.espSynth Overhaul.espCCMMB_CutContent_AE_AWKCR_VISG.esprpampas.espStm_DiamondCityExpansion.espsubwayrunnnernodynamic.espSuperMutantRedux.espConcordEXPANDED.espSalemEXPANDED.espVertibird Alt Fix - Far Harbor.espspacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.espSkjAlert_All_DLC.espMoreAGOMBz.espFaceMaxson.espCombatZoneRestored.espEli_Armour_Compendium.espWestTekTacticalOptics.espWestTekTacticalOptics AE VIS-G.espEli Armor Compendium AE Patch.espNAC-AE VIS-G.espCC_ChineseStealthSuit_UnderArmor_WestTek.espBetterOpenSeason.espNAC-AE Patch.espRBMonogamy.espTactical Thinking.espTheKite_HCD_SynthUniform_Replacer.espWestTekTacticalOptics-AWKCR.espSuperMutantRedux_ArmorSmithExtended.espSuperMutantRedux_VIS-G_Patch.espStm_DiamondCityExpansion_x_LowerVolume.espEdit_Hancock.espSkyHQ.espFarHarborStory.espMoreAGOMBz_CP_ASE_ASEFH.espSnappy_DLC_Scrap.espRecruitableSettlers.espW.A.T.Minutemen.espVertibird Faction Paint Schemes.espSimSettlements_XPAC_Conqueror.espWorkshopPlus.espSimSettlements_MegaPack_YearTwo.espMoreAGOMBz_CP_ASENW.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espRecruitableSettlersFH.espASE_PerfPatch.espTheKite_VTS.espASCOCait03.espASCOCurie04.espASCODanse02.espASCOMacCready01.espASCOPiper02.espcat_wildlands.espFaction Addon Minutemen.espWattzLaserGun.espJournal.espJournal VIS-G.espruined_simsettlement_addonpack.espohSIM_Sim_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon.espSalvageBeacons.espSimHomestead.espASCOPreston01.espAtomGreatness.espBalconySupports.espBetter Weapon Scrap.espBetterJunkFences.espBetterShackBridges.espSimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.espWVSimSAddon.espKraggles - Structures.espPCDugTriangularRevolution.espPCDugWedges.espSimSettlements_AddOnPack_Foundations_JtBryant.espBobbleGirl.espIMG_Castle_Wall_Patches.espPipeGalore.espBoxHouses.espCatDecoFloors.espCCOFoxyFactionsCraftable.espCCOSaucySettlersCraftable.espCCOVulgarVillainsCraftable.espCrafting Mastery - Patch Sim Settlements.espCrafting Mastery.espWorkshopRearrangedAddon_DefaultLocalLeader.espCREAtiveClutter.espCrimsomrider's DLC Ammo.espCriticalHitsOutsideofVATS.espCROSS_Cybernetics.espCROSS_Cybernetics_NoRobotFootStepSounds.espCROSS_Jetpack.espDarkestHourRemastered.espDeterminedDesdemona.espdinoshelf.espdinoshelf_extra_ammo.espdinoshelf_retex.espFHSBonus.espFilledBrahminFeedTroughs.espFixed Alpha Map.espFlicker Fixer.espFOW.espGammaOverhaul.espGatlingLaserAmmoFix.espGruffyddsSignsAndPosters.espGruffydsSignsAndPosters VIS-G.espGuards.espKSHairdos.espPassthrough_Compatibility_13394_SKE.espSignsOfTheTimesCategorized.espWmkActiveEffects.espTheKite_ScoopDigger.espFlaconOil_BA2_2K_Part1.espFlaconOil_BA2_2K_Part2.espFlaconOil_BA2_2K_Part3.espVivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.espb_lpampas.espRaze My Settlement.espfo3friedghouls.espMiscHairstyle.espMesmerizingMagnolia.espDX_Banshee_Recon_Armor.espCraft_and_Dismantle_Weapons.espSchnips - AmazingFollowerTweaks - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - CriticalHitsOutsideofVATS - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - FarHarborStory - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - g2m_Workshop_Nexus - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - ManufacturingExtended - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - SettlementPrivacy - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Stm_DiamondCityExpansion - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - Synth Overhaul - VIS-G Patch.espSchnips - VanillaExtensions - VIS-G Patch.espScrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.espBetterSettlers.espBetterSettlersCleanFacePack.espBetterSettlersNoLollygagging.espBetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.espBashed Patch, 0.esp If you need any other info to help diagnose my issue, or you have any suggestions (for the specific Vis-G issue, or my LO in general), please let me know. 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