Hearthfire so unoriginal

[StayFrosty05]

If I was still on the XBox, I would have been thrilled with Dawnguard as I am on PC, but Hearthfire would have broken my heart...I would not have bothered with it on XBox either and just hoped and prayed that Bethesda would be coming out with something good soon after.

 

I seriously find that hard to believe and would point out you're incapable of knowing what you would really do since you AREN'T limited to the 360 version.

 

Why would something that's only $5 disappoint you when it offers content and options you wouldn't previously be able to use at a low price ( for 360 users )

 

And honestly I think some of the disappointment came from the ridiculous amount of speculation prior to any real information about Hearthfire. I mean jesus, Bethesda copyrighted the name and all the sudden people were off and running with "theories" about what it was going to be about. If anyone is disappointed, I exhibit that they have their expectations set at an unrealistic level (which seems to be the norm at this point. no one is ever satisfied).

 

Stemin...I have a house which I clean every day, I have a family and I have children...teenage daughters....I have absolutely no desire what so ever to play house and family in a game, I am a mother 24/7 in RL....my games are my release from responsibilities in life, I do not play SIMS for that very reason....And so I have zero interest in playing house and family in Skyrim either....I have a great deal of in RL interest in a number of Indigenous cultures and their traditional ways of life (including hunting techniques, life styles, etc...), Medicinal Herbalism and survivalist techniques, these interests I can explore to some extent in Skyrim and as such always play a gritty survivalist type dude....very much the warrior and something of a wild man in nature....this is my interest not playing what I already do day day to in real life.

[Stemin]

Stemin...I have a house which I clean every day, I have a family and I have children...teenage daughters....I have absolutely no desire what so ever to play house and family in a game, I am a mother 24/7 in RL....my games are my release from responsibilities in life, I do not play SIMS for that very reason....And so I have zero interest in playing house and family in Skyrim either....I have a great deal of in RL interest in a number of Indigenous cultures and their traditional ways of life (including hunting techniques, life styles, etc...), Medicinal Herbalism and survivalist techniques, these interests I can explore to some extent in Skyrim and as such always play a gritty survivalist type dude....very much the warrior and something of a wild man in nature....this is my interest not playing what I already do day day to in real life.

 

And yet you have mentioned in countless threads here how you like to role play and go into elaborate detail about your characters, talking about them as if they were real, and you're telling me extra customization you would otherwise not have is not something that would enchance your roleplaying experience?

[fraquar]

Seemed pretty cut and dry for her reasons not to want to have anything to do with that element of role-playing. Kinda the same reason why most football players don't watch football games. They view enough tape, play the game - they want to get away from it with their free time.

[scottym23]

Stemin...I have a house which I clean every day, I have a family and I have children...teenage daughters....I have absolutely no desire what so ever to play house and family in a game, I am a mother 24/7 in RL....my games are my release from responsibilities in life, I do not play SIMS for that very reason....And so I have zero interest in playing house and family in Skyrim either....I have a great deal of in RL interest in a number of Indigenous cultures and their traditional ways of life (including hunting techniques, life styles, etc...), Medicinal Herbalism and survivalist techniques, these interests I can explore to some extent in Skyrim and as such always play a gritty survivalist type dude....very much the warrior and something of a wild man in nature....this is my interest not playing what I already do day day to in real life.

 

And yet you have mentioned in countless threads here how you like to role play and go into elaborate detail about your characters, talking about them as if they were real, and you're telling me extra customization you would otherwise not have is not something that would enchance your roleplaying experience?

 

Do you not understand what she's saying? She likes to RP and go into elaborate detail about her character to escape from her real life responsibilities which include caring for her children. Why would she want to do the same activities in a game that she's trying to forget in the first place?

[StayFrosty05]

Thank you fraquar and scottym....your support is appreciated.... :happy: ....Though I am thinking you don't really want to hear it do you Stemin....I know from your posts you are not a fan of modding....I am left curious though as to why you continue to insist so vehemently that others see and feel what you see and feel about mods and DLC's....why not just agree to disagree instead of trying to convince others to share your view points.

 

I in fact do still have some purely console games...such as Mass Effect...and have learned through ME to be more reserved in buying every DLC offered, as not all appeal to me....such as 'Pinnacle Station' for ME1.

 

As for the countless threads you mentioned...I find this statement interesting...as I wouldn't have thought countless myself unless you are somehow running into every comment I make on such issue, as they are pretty random and this is a large forum with many threads....In fact I can only think of one thread in which I truly get elaborate.

[Stemin]

Thank you fraquar and scottym....your support is appreciated.... :happy: ....Though I am thinking you don't really want to hear it do you Stemin....I know from your posts you are not a fan of modding....I am left curious though as to why you continue to insist so vehemently that others see and feel what you see and feel about mods and DLC's....why not just agree to disagree instead of trying to convince others to share your view points.

 

Why do you need "support"? I wasn't aware we were in a competition.

 

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just because my statements are full of conviction doesn't mean I'm trying to convert anyone to my point of view. I've made them clear. It's disgusting how many people think they can do better than Bethesda, and the entitlement and expectations are disgusting. That's my general statement on the issue. It's pretty darn hard to be a member of a PC board and just talk about Skyrim when everyone's only interested in what they're doing with their game. Mods did that.

 

I've always found the statement "agree to disagree" to be an exercise in futility. I believe firmly in my ideas, viewpoints, etc. If someone chooses to disagree based on their viewpoint, fine, but don't argue with me unless you expect me to defend mine.

 

As for the countless threads you mentioned...I find this statement interesting...as I wouldn't have thought countless myself unless you are somehow running into every comment I make on such issue, as they are pretty random and this is a large forum with many threads....In fact I can only think of one thread in which I truly get elaborate.

 

Well I don't know what to tell you. I don't keep a count of what you've done, but you've done it enough that your name stands out to me because I've heard it over and over before. I don't know why your above statements have the strong feel of taking things personally, because I don't remember attacking you.

 

If I could be allowed to return to the issue we're discussing?

 

I guess we'll have to "agree to disagree" ? I find $5 to be pretty much useless in regards to the important financial issues in my life, and because of that it falls pretty close to "free dlc" in my book. I feel that if $5 IS significant in your financial life, you shouldn't be spending money on video games in the first place.

 

You say you don't want to "play house" etc. and I can understand that, but as I tried to point out before, modders WILL be using these resources for future mods and just the components for house building alone may be added to a smithing feature for an armor mod you want to d/l later. That's just one example and I don't know everything the DLC has added. Slight variations to Falkreath and Morthal seem to have been made, and new NPC's are likely to have been added, possibly a few new outfits.

 

For me it doesn't matter if I actually USE the dlc, because as I said... $5 is nothing. I will be getting the DLC for the simple intention of keeping my game up to date, and having those extra resources mentioned. I can't think of a good reason not to get it, despite the claims in this thread. Modders WILL be using these resources, Bethesda WILL make changes to skyrim that will effect your mods regardless until the game is 100% completely updated (read GOTY), and therefore those arguments don't seem strong to me.

Edited September 29, 2012 by Stemin

[scottym23]

For me it doesn't matter if I actually USE the dlc, because as I said... $5 is nothing. I will be getting the DLC for the simple intention of keeping my game up to date, and having those extra resources mentioned. I can't think of a good reason not to get it, despite the claims in this thread. Modders WILL be using these resources, Bethesda WILL make changes to Skyrim that will effect your mods regardless until the game is 100% completely updated (read GOTY), and therefore those arguments don't seem strong to me.

 

I can understand your reasoning for getting any DLC to keep your game up to date. However you have to understand that most people don't decide whether to buy games or DLC based on the money aspect, but based on the quality. If a person is impressed with a particular game, then they will show their support by purchasing it. And in the same light, they will choose to not buy a game to show the opposite; their disappointment with the game.

 

Think of it like this; game developers and companies provide certain content based on the amount of people that would pay for said content. As a consumer, it's your responsibility to decide whether or not certain content meets your expectations. If they do, you buy it and then the developers know that it was up to standards with what you like. That's why people shouldn't buy content when they don't approve of a game or an aspect of a game. I personally don't like Hearthfire or think it's a good DLC for me, so I won't buy it. But if I was to buy it, then the developers would infer that I enjoyed and liked the content, so they will continually make the same content since people keep buying it. The only way to have any power as a consumer is to just follow common sense, and buy what you like and don't buy what you don't like. That way the companies are forced to produce good content that you would buy.

 

If you're going to buy any content just for the sake of your game being "complete", then don't expect the game to be full of content you necessarily like and blame anyone else for it but yourself. And I know that just one person can't make this much of an impact, but I know for a fact that there are tons of people with the same mindset as you who just buy any new content because it's new and that reason only. I'm not saying it's wrong to do that, but don't say that "I can't think of a good reason not to get it".

[Stemin]

For me it doesn't matter if I actually USE the dlc, because as I said... $5 is nothing. I will be getting the DLC for the simple intention of keeping my game up to date, and having those extra resources mentioned. I can't think of a good reason not to get it, despite the claims in this thread. Modders WILL be using these resources, Bethesda WILL make changes to Skyrim that will effect your mods regardless until the game is 100% completely updated (read GOTY), and therefore those arguments don't seem strong to me.

 

I can understand your reasoning for getting any DLC to keep your game up to date. However you have to understand that most people don't decide whether to buy games or DLC based on the money aspect, but based on the quality. If a person is impressed with a particular game, then they will show their support by purchasing it. And in the same light, they will choose to not buy a game to show the opposite; their disappointment with the game.

 

Think of it like this; game developers and companies provide certain content based on the amount of people that would pay for said content. As a consumer, it's your responsibility to decide whether or not certain content meets your expectations. If they do, you buy it and then the developers know that it was up to standards with what you like. That's why people shouldn't buy content when they don't approve of a game or an aspect of a game. I personally don't like Hearthfire or think it's a good DLC for me, so I won't buy it. But if I was to buy it, then the developers would infer that I enjoyed and liked the content, so they will continually make the same content since people keep buying it. The only way to have any power as a consumer is to just follow common sense, and buy what you like and don't buy what you don't like. That way the companies are forced to produce good content that you would buy.

 

If you're going to buy any content just for the sake of your game being "complete", then don't expect the game to be full of content you necessarily like and blame anyone else for it but yourself. And I know that just one person can't make this much of an impact, but I know for a fact that there are tons of people with the same mindset as you who just buy any new content because it's new and that reason only. I'm not saying it's wrong to do that, but don't say that "I can't think of a good reason not to get it".

 

I'm not saying you should just buy any DLC simply for the fact of your game being "complete". If you guys got that then I apologize, because that's an incomplete answer.

 

I don't think anyone should make a decision without looking at EVERY talking point.

 

I'm not suggesting anyone buy the DLC just to keep their game complete. I'm saying that for such a low price added to the fact that I love, enjoy, and play Skyrim every day, then to me with all of that being said, some extra pointless content is worth keeping my game up to date for a game I play _all the time_.

 

I think your comments about consumers is a lot more complicated than you make it sound and we're dealing with a DLC here. Billions of people already bought Skyrim. Millions more will, perhaps as many as another billion. I may not like the DLC, but again for the low price, I will support Bethesda by purchasing it because I love and enjoy Skyrim.

Edited September 30, 2012 by Stemin

[scottym23]

I think your comments about consumers is a lot more complicated than you make it sound and we're dealing with a DLC here.

 

 

My comments about the consumers really isn't that complicated. You buy what you want, and Bethesda knows to make more like it. You don't buy what you don't like, and they know they need to make changes to it. It's really just that simple.

 

Billions of people already bought Skyrim. Millions more will, perhaps as many as another billion.

 

Definitely not even a billion (or anywhere close to a billion) people have bought Skyrim or will ever buy Skyrim. Steam shipped 10 million copies via the computer, and that got national and news attention. No game has ever sold a billion copies, and never will.

 

I may not like the DLC, but again for the low price, I will support Bethesda by purchasing it because I love and enjoy Skyrim.

 

I don't think you understand the concept of what i'm saying. If you love and enjoy Skyrim, then purchasing the original game is how you show your support for it. If you don't like the DLC but buy it anyway like you just said, then that purchase isn't supporting Skyrim, it's supporting the DLC. Why would you support DLC that you don't like?

[fraquar]

Stemin, from this side of your posts it almost seems like you are pimping the DLC. That may not be your intention, but thats the vibe I'm getting. When you question why a housewife would not wanting to roleplay a housewife, it's pretty hard not to get that vibe.

 

Your enthusiasm with everything that is Skyrim is noted - nothing wrong with that. There are different strokes for different folks though - which is why this thread was started I guess.