Michlo Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_...n_family_travel Of course, we're going to have some here who will find some way to defend this, probably by finding something to attack Obama for (again). This female dog has some nerve. She stands in front of the world talking about cutting this sort of crap out of Washington and she is guilty of it herself (again)!! Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jj45 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_...n_family_travel Of course, we're going to have some here who will find some way to defend this, probably by finding something to attack Obama for (again). This female dog has some nerve. She stands in front of the world talking about cutting this sort of crap out of Washington and she is guilty of it herself (again)!! Sheesh.It's just as bad as console wars,on youtube the other day,this guy reversed one of Obama's songs and claimed it had some weird sayings in it(it's the popular "devil's messages when played backwards" thing),and yes it was a vid,and he actually believed something was up to it,i messaged him about it,then he became defendent and started cursing me out,claimed i was brainwashed,claimed i was cursing at him when in fact i was not,and an xbox fanboy ;D .it's a long story,i'd rather not explain it too much,but as a matter of fact,his vid is a reply vid to one that had played the same song,and both have different translations. :confused: .Lol,dang though,i thought debaters on presidential elections were mature.Even someone told me that way back,nope.Wish you guyes the best of luck :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethre Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business. That's bad. I'm not going to play the usual devil's advocate here, for a couple of reasons. Please remember though, that shenanigans aren't inherently "republican". There's the traditional Democractic machine in chicago . . .Remember how Pelosi tried to get Murtha as majority leader? (Various corruption issues there)Heck, Tim Mahoney (Democract who took Mark Foley's seat) is just now coming under investigation for corruption involving his mistress. This runs on both sides of the isle. You can't say any one political party is immune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michlo Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business. That's bad. I'm not going to play the usual devil's advocate here, for a couple of reasons. Please remember though, that shenanigans aren't inherently "republican". There's the traditional Democractic machine in chicago . . .Remember how Pelosi tried to get Murtha as majority leader? (Various corruption issues there)Heck, Tim Mahoney (Democract who took Mark Foley's seat) is just now coming under investigation for corruption involving his mistress. This runs on both sides of the isle. You can't say any one political party is immune. Nor did I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herosinger Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Indeed. The current shenanigans are just the latest example of ridiculous political crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethre Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Nor did I. You speak truly. I interpreted the title and your words to that implication, and while as stated before I did not desire to debate this issue, I wished to prevent a republican bashing thread (I would have done the same with a democrat one). To correct my error, and balance my post previously, let me add to the republican side corruption issues: Ted StevensHalliburton issues in IraqThe CIA outing over the 2004 election. And a couple of good "honest" politician stories:Obama and Biden refusing PAC moneyMcCain supporters chasing away the people who were claiming Obama was a muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michlo Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 Nor did I. You speak truly. I interpreted the title and your words to that implication, and while as stated before I did not desire to debate this issue, I wished to prevent a republican bashing thread (I would have done the same with a democrat one). To correct my error, and balance my post previously, let me add to the republican side corruption issues: Ted StevensHalliburton issues in IraqThe CIA outing over the 2004 election. And a couple of good "honest" politician stories:Obama and Biden refusing PAC moneyMcCain supporters chasing away the people who were claiming Obama was a muslim. Good point all though I was trying to keep this to the current election. This story was just particularly galling since this is now her second investigation already and she has been so vocal about cleaning up this short of "abuse of power" in her campaigning. As for bashing Republicans, I shan't bother to do that as I think they've done enough of that themselves. ;) Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethre Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I think they've done enough of that themselves. Hard to argue with that. There have been some pretty ugly issues. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydroxide Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Just want to throw in, if I may. Sorry if I'm putting more salt on the wound, but McCain is just a gusher of irony. Palin and McCain practically basked in this impression they were "The Mavericks" - the Maverick family begs to differ. If you haven't seen this clip: Anyway, when it descends down to finger-pointing and radical assumptions while attacks are debunked on a constant basis, it's time to reassess some moral standards. It is just amazing how politics can change a person which showed when McCain made his noble wrap-up speech. As for Obama, I'm glad to see him in the transition process but I have questions about his staff and even if he attempts to stay true to his word I believe Obama knows of obstacles during his presidency that will alter his agenda greatly and permanently. That congratulatory letter he received bothers me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herosinger Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 That congratulatory letter he received bothers me.I imagine that's why it was sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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