LOOT Cyclic interaction

[Donfrye23]

Hi.I ran LOOT and got the error :

Cyclic interaction detected between "Immersive Movement.esp" and "Qw_ACE_CRF Patch.esp":

Immersive Movement.esp
 [Masterlist Load After]
Mortal Enemies - No RunWalk Changes.esp
 [Group]
WACCF_ASM-2019.esp
 [Masterlist Load After]
WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
 [Master]
Qw_ACE_CRF Patch.esp
 [Group]
Immersive Movement.esp

 

How do i solve this?

 

Current Load order :

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Paradise_City_RESOURCES.esm

7 7 Landscape and Water Fixes.esp

254 FE 0 SimpleChildren.esp

8 8 FISS.esp

254 FE 1 WM_WidgetMod.esl

254 FE 2 AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl

9 9 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

254 FE 3 AnimatedHarvesting.esl

10 a EFFCore.esm

11 b SkyUI_SE.esp

12 c Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp

13 d WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp

14 e Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

15 f WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp

254 FE 4 Consistency Patch - WACCF and ACE.esp

16 10 FloraRespawnFix.esp

17 11 Better Harvesting.esp

254 FE 5 Hearthfires Houses Building Fix.esp

18 12 AutoHideAmmo.esp

19 13 Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp

20 14 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

21 15 Whiterun Tower - Mesh Fix.esp

22 16 BlendedRoads.esp

23 17 SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp

24 18 fallentreebridgesSSE.esp

254 FE 6 fallenbridgesSSE-Patch.esp

25 19 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

26 1a aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

27 1b Differently Ebony.esp

28 1c LTAOC_LightGlassArmor.esp

29 1d Book Covers Skyrim.esp

30 1e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

31 1f DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

254 FE 7 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

32 20 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

33 21 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

254 FE 8 ObsidianWaterFix.esp

34 22 DustEffectsSSE.esp

35 23 Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp

36 24 Landscape For Grass Mods - Military Camps.esp

37 25 NoGrassINCaves.esp

38 26 No World Map Fog.esp

39 27 Obsidian Weathers.esp

40 28 Obsidian Weathers MCM.esp

254 FE 9 ObsidianWeatherBrumaPatch.esp

254 FE a Obsidian Weathers for Vigilant.esp

41 29 TrueStormsSE.esp

42 2a True Storms - Obsidian Weathers - Patch .esp

43 2b mintylightningmod.esp

44 2c Obsidian_TS_Patch_Luminous.esp

45 2d Obsidian_TS_Patch_Luminous_WaterFix.esp

46 2e TrueStorms_MintyLightning_Patch.esp

47 2f WondersofWeather.esp

254 FE b ELE-ELFX Patch AIO.esp

48 30 ELFXEnhancer.esp

49 31 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

50 32 ELFX Fake Light Remover.esp

254 FE c ELFX Fixes.esp

51 33 Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp

52 34 Skyrim Better Roads - All In One - Merged.esp

53 35 Skyrim Better Roads - EastMarch.esp

54 36 Skyrim Better Roads - The Rift.esp

55 37 Skyrim Better Roads - Winterhold.esp

56 38 Enhanced Landscapes - Grass.esp

57 39 Enhanced Landscapes.esp

254 FE d Enhanced Landscapes Obsidian Weathers Patch.esp

58 3a Treeswinedave.esp

59 3b TreeswinedaveCities.esp

60 3c TreeswinedaveWRTundra.esp

61 3d Nordic Ruins of Skyrim.esp

62 3e cliffs.esp

63 3f Skyrim Bridges.esp

64 40 Northern Marsh Bridges SE.esp

65 41 Elizabeth's Tower - Azura Shrine.esp

66 42 Manor Roads.esp

254 FE e Bee Hives.esp

67 43 Run For Your Lives.esp

68 44 Goodfellow's Whiteun Hold.esp

69 45 Paradise_City_Merged.esp

70 46 Undriel_QuaintRavenRock.esp

71 47 Enhanced Solitude SSE USSEP Patch.esp

72 48 Enhanced Solitude SSE.esp

73 49 OldHroldanRuins.esp

74 4a stendarrsbeaconenhancedRv4sse.esp

75 4b EEKs Whiterun Interiors.esp

76 4c OpulentThievesGuild.esp

254 FE f OpulentThievesGuildPatch.esp

77 4d Solitude Skyway SE - Enhanced Landscapes Patch.esp

78 4e Solitude Skyway SE.esp

79 4f Real Solitude Rocks.esp

80 50 Solitude Skyway SE - Realistic Solitude Arch Patch.esp

81 51 This_is_Riverwood.esp

82 52 Karthwasten - Let The Silver Flow.esp

83 53 WarmaidenReforged.esp

84 54 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp

85 55 Smoking Torches and Candles.esp

254 FE 10 FleshFX.esp

86 56 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp

87 57 CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp

88 58 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

89 59 Blowing in the Wind - Weathered Road Signs Patch.esp

90 5a Weathered Road Signs.esp

91 5b SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp

92 5c Saeri_AetherialCrown.esp

93 5d Elemental_Staffs.esp

94 5e KrittaKittyHorsesForSSE.esp

95 5f More_Saddles - Shadowmere - BigGameHunter.esp

96 60 More_Saddles.esp

97 61 HD Quill of Germination - Light.esp

98 62 RBB Large Boats.esp

99 63 RBB Long Boats.esp

100 64 RBB Row Boats.esp

254 FE 11 RBB - Realistic Water Two.esp

101 65 HagravenSkinShaders.esp

102 66 EEKs Whiterun Flora Display.esp

103 67 Improved Fire Salts Frost Salts And Glow Dust.esp

104 68 SpiceOfLife - OrcLStrongholds.esp

105 69 Unique Dragon Aspect.esp

106 6a Savage Wolves - Fox Fix.esp

107 6b DeadDraugrHavokFix.esp

108 6c KatriaBow.esp

254 FE 12 Glorious Solitude Door - Rotation Fix.esp

109 6d FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp

110 6e EmbersHD.esp

111 6f Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp

112 70 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp

113 71 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

114 72 Vanilla Hair Replacer - VHR.esp

115 73 Beards.esp

116 74 Brows.esp

117 75 NB-Scars.esp

118 76 VWA_VanillaWarpaintsAbsolution.esp

119 77 PrettyKhajiit.esp

120 78 FabLookEyesSSE.esp

121 79 Drachis Argonian Eyes.esp

122 7a Bijin AIO.esp

123 7b Serana.esp

124 7c PAN_NPCs.esp

125 7d Metalsabers Beautiful Orcs of Skyrim.esp

126 7e Metalsabers Elegant Elves of Skyrim.esp

127 7f Aesthetic Elisif.esp

128 80 Skyrim Ladies - Astrid.esp

129 81 Men of Winter.esp

130 82 Hubbies.esp

131 83 ImprovedLucien.esp

132 84 erikmature.esp

133 85 Dragon Stalking Fix.esp

134 86 PAN_NPCs_DG.esp

135 87 FHH_LEGENDARY_VE_USSEP.esp

136 88 RFCharacterOverhaul.esp

137 89 RFCharacterOverhaul_USSEP.esp

138 8a IB - All-in-One.esp

254 FE 13 FacegenForKids.esp

139 8b Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

140 8c UnreadBooksGlow.esp

141 8d SkyHUD.esp

142 8e LessIntrusiveHUD.esp

143 8f AMatterOfTime.esp

144 90 iEquip.esp

145 91 AH Hotkeys.esp

146 92 AHZmoreHUD.esp

147 93 imp_helm_legend.esp

148 94 THMeeko.esp

149 95 VigilanceReborn.esp

150 96 FrostReborn.esp

151 97 Eli_Breezehome.esp

152 98 Halls Of Dovahndor SSE.esp

153 99 ogSplendorDragons.esp

154 9a SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

155 9b Skytest Creature Extension.esp

156 9c Skytest Immersive Horses.esp

157 9d Skytest USSEP.esp

158 9e Immersive Horses.esp

254 FE 14 ICNs_ImmersiveCollegeNPCs.esp

159 9f Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp

254 FE 15 Dawnguard - HoV Req.esp

160 a0 DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp

161 a1 OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp

254 FE 16 VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp

162 a2 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

163 a3 KS Dragon Overhaul 2.esp

164 a4 Immersive Movement.esp

165 a5 Crime Overhaul.esp

166 a6 DepthsOfSkyrim.esp

167 a7 LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp

168 a8 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Enhanced Blood Patch.esp

254 FE 17 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Obsidian Weathers Patch.esp

169 a9 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - True Storms Patch.esp

170 aa Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp

254 FE 18 Immersive Dragon Sounds.esp

171 ab illy's HQ Fire Audio.esp

172 ac SilentSneakAttack.esp

173 ad Trade & Barter.esp

174 ae ABT SE - Faster Arrows Improved.esp

175 af ABT SE - Faster Bolts Improved.esp

176 b0 ABT SE - Recover Ammo.esp

177 b1 Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - High Interior, Medium Exterior.esp

178 b2 Cutting Room Floor.esp

254 FE 19 HQ Tintmasks for Cutting Room Floor.esp

179 b3 CRF - ShieldSpellFXS Restore.esp

180 b4 sandboxcylinderheight.esp

181 b5 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp

182 b6 AIMFIX.esp

183 b7 Serana Dialogue Edit.esp

184 b8 Believable Crime Report Radius.esp

185 b9 Improved Adoptions MERGED.esp

186 ba AnotherSortingMod_2017-SSE.esp

254 FE 1a SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators_ASM-SSE.esp

254 FE 1b ASM-SSE ENB Light.esp

254 FE 1c WACCF_ASM-2019.esp

187 bb Torch and Brightness Radius PLUS Magelight - ELFX.esp

188 bc LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp

189 bd LeftHandRings.esp

190 be Combat Evolved.esp

191 bf Guards Attack Hostiles.esp

192 c0 Simple Spell Scaling.esp

193 c1 HitStop.esp

194 c2 TKRecoil.esp

195 c3 Mortal Enemies - No RunWalk Changes.esp

196 c4 Mortal Enemies Patch - Realistic Animals Predators.esp

197 c5 Realistic Melee Range.esp

254 FE 1d AlchemyAdjustments-DawnofSkyrimPatch.esp

198 c6 AlchemyAdjustments.esp

254 FE 1e AlchemyAdjustmentsDistinctiveRareIngredientsAddon.esp

254 FE 1f AlchemyAdjustmentsLightPotions-WACCFPatch.esp

254 FE 20 AlchemyAdjustmentsLightweightPotionsAddon.esp

199 c7 PoisoningExtended.esp

200 c8 Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp

201 c9 Extra Guards.esp

202 ca Extra Guards Aggressive and Vanilla Stats Patch.esp

203 cb Extra Guards Lite and DOS Directors Cut Patch.esp

204 cc Meem0OutfitNPCs.esp

205 cd RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp

206 ce Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

207 cf Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

208 d0 Realistic-Voice.esp

209 d1 manny Lantern Caretakers.esp

210 d2 Point The Way.esp

211 d3 AskTheWay.esp

212 d4 BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp

213 d5 BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp

214 d6 Improved Traps.esp

215 d7 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

216 d8 Destructible Skyrim.esp

217 d9 Laundry.esp

218 da SimplyKnock.esp

219 db Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp

220 dc Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp

221 dd Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp

254 FE 21 Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim SE - MCM versionPatch.esp

222 de Holidays SFO Patch.esp

223 df Holidays.esp

224 e0 HoldBorderBanners.esp

225 e1 FarmhouseChimneys.esp

226 e2 FarmhouseChimneysCRF.esp

227 e3 Improved Shadowmarks.esp

228 e4 Player marriage dialogue redone..esp

229 e5 ImperialSoldiersEscortFix.esp

230 e6 Art Imports.esp

231 e7 FNIS_PCEA2.esp

232 e8 SOSRaceMenu.esp

233 e9 XPMSE.esp

234 ea Dual Sheath Redux.esp

235 eb FNIS.esp

236 ec FNISspells.esp

237 ed Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp

254 FE 22 PCE - ELFX PATCH.esp

254 FE 23 PCE - ELFXEnhancer Patch.esp

254 FE 24 PCE - Holidays Patch.esp

254 FE 25 PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp

254 FE 26 PCE - RDO Patch.esp

254 FE 27 PCE - USSEP+CRF Patch.esp

238 ee Book Covers Skyrim - Immersive Horses Patch.esp

239 ef Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - Immersive Horses Patch.esp

240 f0 Blues Skyrim.esp

241 f1 Immersive Movement - Mortal Enemies Patch.esp

242 f2 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp

243 f3 AnimatedEatingRedux.esp

254 FE 28 ImmersiveAnimatedLooting - Personal tweak.esp

244 f4 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp

245 f5 FNISSexyMove.esp

246 f6 mcgFemaleWalk for SkyrimSE.esp

247 f7 PotionAnimatedfx.esp

254 FE 29 Qw_ACE_CRF Patch.esp

254 FE 2a Qw_BijinAIO_CRF Patch.esp

254 FE 2b Qw_BookCoversSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp

254 FE 2c Qw_DeadlySpellImpacts_AOS Patch.esp

254 FE 2d Qw_PANNPCs_CRF Patch.esp

254 FE 2e Qw_RealisticFaces_CRF Patch.esp

254 FE 2f Qw_WACCF_AOS Patch.esp

254 FE 30 Blowing in the Wind - Old Hroldan Ruin patch.esp

254 FE 31 Blowing in the Wind SSE - Skyrim Bridges patch.esp

254 FE 32 Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One - Main - Blowing in the Wind SSE - Skyrim Bridges Patch.esp

254 FE 33 Lanterns of Skyrim - All in One - Main - Skyrim Bridges patch.esp

254 FE 34 Northern Marsh Bridges - Blowing in the Wind patch.esp

254 FE 35 Skyrim Bridges - ELFX patch.esp

248 f8 SlickSneaking.esp

254 FE 36 Incognito.esp

254 FE 37 Disease Fixes.esp

249 f9 QuickLight.esp

250 fa SJG Quick Light Patch.esp

254 FE 38 TaarieDialFix.esp

251 fb Better descriptions SSE.esp

252 fc Better descriptions SSE - Book Covers Skyrim patch.esp

253 fd Better descriptions SSE - Spell tomes.esp

254 fe No More Standing Too Close SSE 1-0.esp

Bounty Gold.esp

RequiredKeyTweaks.esp

Move it Dammit.esp

ElementalFuryFix.esp

EFFDialogue.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

Cloaks.esp

Immersive War and Violence.esp

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp

Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp

Thanks.

Edited August 24, 2019 by Donfrye23

[Algabar]

"Cyclic interaction" basically means "contradictory sorting rules". Something like "load A after B", but also "load B after A". Since rules like these are mutually exclusive, LOOT doesn't know what to do.

 

In your case, you seem to have one LOOT rule telling the program to load "immersive Movement" after "Qw_ACE_CRF Patch" AND another one stating the reverse.

 

How to solve this: Check the LOOT rules for both plugins. Remove one of the conflicting rules.

 

On a side note: You seem to have more than 255 plugins installed. 255 ist the limit for conventional .esp / .esm files. If some of your .esp plugins are ESL-flagged ("ESPFE"), everything is probably fine. If all your .esp plugins are "true" esp files, you should reduce your load order (or convert some of your .esp plugins into ESLs / ESPFEs).

[Donfrye23]

"Cyclic interaction" basically means "contradictory sorting rules". Something like "load A after B", but also "load B after A". Since rules like these are mutually exclusive, LOOT doesn't know what to do.

 

In your case, you seem to have one LOOT rule telling the program to load "immersive Movement" after "Qw_ACE_CRF Patch" AND another one stating the reverse.

 

How to solve this: Check the LOOT rules for both plugins. Remove one of the conflicting rules.

 

On a side note: You seem to have more than 255 plugins installed. 255 ist the limit for conventional .esp / .esm files. If some of your .esp plugins are ESL-flagged ("ESPFE"), everything is probably fine. If all your .esp plugins are "true" esp files, you should reduce your load order (or convert some of your .esp plugins into ESLs / ESPFEs).

Thanks for the reply.In LOOT,for "immersive Movement" and "Qw_ACE_CRF Patch" , the "Load after" and "requirements" tabs are empty. :sad:

Update : Changing the group in edit metadata resolved it but I'm not sure if it might've caused other problems?

Edited August 24, 2019 by Donfrye23

[Algabar]

Did you change anything regarding those two plugin files manually?

If not, you might have found one of the (rather rare) errors in LOOT.

 

If LOOT continues to refuse sorting both plugins, you might have to resort to manual sorting.

 

What mod manager do you use?

If it lets you sort plugins freely, everything should be okay. If you're using Vortex (or another manager, that doesn't let you sort plugins manually), I'd suggest using Wrye Bash (https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash) as a workaround.

 

In any case, the basic idea is the same:

 

1. Disable one of the two plugins in question.

2. Sort with LOOT

3. Enable the second "conflicting" plugin.

4. Put it manually where you want it.

[Donfrye23]

T

 

Did you change anything regarding those two plugin files manually?

If not, you might have found one of the (rather rare) errors in LOOT.

 

If LOOT continues to refuse sorting both plugins, you might have to resort to manual sorting.

 

What mod manager do you use?

If it lets you sort plugins freely, everything should be okay. If you're using Vortex (or another manager, that doesn't let you sort plugins manually), I'd suggest using Wrye Bash (https://github.com/wrye-bash/wrye-bash) as a workaround.

 

In any case, the basic idea is the same:

 

1. Disable one of the two plugins in question.

2. Sort with LOOT

3. Enable the second "conflicting" plugin.

4. Put it manually where you want it.

Thanks alot for your help.Fixed it with your recommended method! :thumbsup: :smile: