Skyrim SE randomly crashing to desktop with no error message. FNIS related?

[Framboogle]

Hi, so basically during the middle of a game skyrim will crash with no error message. If I quicksave to right before the crash and I try to replay the events leading up to the crash, it crashes at the exact same point, so I'm thinking that it isn't a timed thing, but when I meet a certain scenario it crashes. This problem has happened before when I used FNIS, I usually just uninstalled it and it went away but this time I actually want to use FNIS. GenerateFNISforUsers.exe isn't giving me any warnings, and LOOT and Vortex isn't either. I'm getting tired of crashing instantly whenever I trigger a scenario so I'm hoping someone can help me get out of this crash hell. Here's my modlist:

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

7 7 ELFX - Exteriors.esp

8 8 SkyUI_SE.esp

9 9 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

10 a Cutting Room Floor.esp

11 b ELFX - Weathers.esp

12 c Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

13 d Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

14 e Proper Aiming.esp

15 f 100Lower Training Cost, Unlimited.esp

16 10 BendTimeRings.esp

17 11 Carry Weight x100.esp

18 12 Easy lockpicking.esp

19 13 JKs Skyrim.esp

20 14 MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp

21 15 JKs_Skyrim_No_Lights_Patch.esp

22 16 freecraft.esp

23 17 freecraftdawnguard.esp

24 18 freecraftdragonborn.esp

25 19 freecrafthearthfire.esp

26 1a HealthRegenCheat.esp

27 1b IcePenguinWorldMap.esp

28 1c InfiniteShouts.esp

29 1d Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp

30 1e Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp

31 1f Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

32 20 True Master Trainers (Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch).esp

33 21 MageMasterRing_1.0.esp

34 22 NeocatzeosResurrectRod.esp

35 23 NightEyeRing.esp

36 24 No PC Fall Damage.esp

37 25 NoRadialBlur.esp

38 26 sithlightning.esp

39 27 Unlimited Sprinting.esp

40 28 UnlimitedWerewolfTransformations.esp

41 29 weight.esp

42 2a Immersive Weapons.esp

43 2b InigoPerkPointGiver.esp

44 2c ZedUnlimitedWeaponEnchant.esp

45 2d Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets SSE.esp

46 2e Alduin78_StarWars.esp

47 2f Better Skill and Quest Books Names SE.esp

48 30 Daedric Stealth Suit.esp

49 31 Unbound Bow.esp

50 32 widescreen_skyui_fix.esp

51 33 Curse of the Dragonborn.esp

52 34 Pickpocket100Chance.esp

53 35 Marry Me Serana.esp

54 36 RaceMenu.esp

55 37 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

56 38 Serana.esp

57 39 miRicherPockets.esp

58 3a Valerica.esp

59 3b BAAB_English_MaxDamage_v1_2_5.esp

60 3c ForgottenCity.esp

61 3d Sneak Tools.esp

62 3e Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

63 3f Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

254 FE 0 JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp

64 40 RiftenFPSFix.esp

65 41 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

66 42 Ish's Souls to Perks.esp

67 43 CBBE.esp

68 44 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

69 45 FNIS.esp

70 46 FNISSexyMove.esp

71 47 XPMSE.esp

72 48 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

73 49 Provincial Courier Service.esp

74 4a Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

75 4b RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp

RDO - USSEP Patch.esp

76 4c Open Cities Skyrim.esp

77 4d JKs Skyrim_Open Cities_Patch.esp

78 4e Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp

Any help would be much appreciated.

[Algabar]

First of all: Pray to Thalos (or whatever deity you prefer) that Fore, the creator of FNIS, isn't around... He's not very fond of suspicions against FNIS without evidence.... :ninja:

 

Seriously, I don't see any reason why FNIS should be the cause of your crashes - especially if it doesn't give you error messages.

From what you've given us, it's almost impossible to point to possible "culprits". What "certain scenario" are you talking about? And which locations?

 

Did you try starting a new game? CTDs in certain locations / situations are often caused by leftover scripts and other data from removed mods. A lot of things gets baked into savegames. E.g. the game might still have a script, that wants to spawn a certain NPC - who isn't there any more, because the mod got removed. Result: CTD. Things like that...

 

Please test with a fresh savegame. If the CTDs occur there, too, its most likely a mod problem. Otherwise it's probably a savegame issue.

 

Also, I don't see a "bashed patch" (from "Wrye Bash") in your load order. I'd highly recommend creating one, although that's probably not the root of your CTD issues.

 

But TBH, all I'm writing is more or less pure guessing. We need information. :cool:

[leonardo2]

Seriously, I don't see any reason why FNIS should be the cause of your crashes - especially if it doesn't give you error messages.

There is actually one scenario I know of and that is about running the GenerateFNISforUsers.exe every time you either install or uninstall a mod.

 

Not doing that could cause an issue like this one, so I want to ask the OP. Did you run the GenerateFNISforUsers.exe after you installed or uninstalled a mod?

[fore]

First of all: Pray to Thalos (or whatever deity you prefer) that Fore, the creator of FNIS, isn't around... He's not very fond of suspicions against FNIS without evidence.... :ninja:

 

Not being around when FNIS is even in the title? How can this happen????? :D

 

 

Seriously, I don't see any reason why FNIS should be the cause of your crashes - especially if it doesn't give you error messages.

There is actually one scenario I know of and that is about running the GenerateFNISforUsers.exe every time you either install or uninstall a mod.

 

Not doing that could cause an issue like this one, so I want to ask the OP. Did you run the GenerateFNISforUsers.exe after you installed or uninstalled a mod?

 

What kind of scenario? If you don't run FNIS you will at worst get t-pose all over the place. NEVER CTDs.

 

 

Hi, so basically during the middle of a game skyrim will crash with no error message. If I quicksave to right before the crash and I try to replay the events leading up to the crash, it crashes at the exact same point, so I'm thinking that it isn't a timed thing, but when I meet a certain scenario it crashes. This problem has happened before when I used FNIS, I usually just uninstalled it and it went away but this time I actually want to use FNIS. GenerateFNISforUsers.exe isn't giving me any warnings, and LOOT and Vortex isn't either. I'm getting tired of crashing instantly whenever I trigger a scenario so I'm hoping someone can help me get out of this crash hell. Here's my modlist:

 

When FNIS 7.5 was released I had several posts here and at other sites swearing that the update has caused unexplainable new CTDs during the game. And that it went away when reverting back to 7.4.5. I told everyone that FNIS doesn't cause in-game CTDs. But tell a newbie who is convince because he can't think of anything else that could have caused that (lol).

 

Fortunately, one user came up with the information that the new Racemenu 0.4.5 (I think) causes these kind of CTDs. And in fact I was able to reproduce it myself. One reproducible CTD (custom spell with left hand), one non-reproducible (2-hand attack) within an hour. No CTDs at all with Racemenu 0.4.2.

 

And as usual the other users who were absolute sure before were never heard afterwards. Does anyone still wonder why I get hyperactive when novice users make this kind of accusations so easily??? :smile: