Constantly Freezing... please please help.

[adzig8]

Hey everyone, most of these topics are the same and trust me I've done a bit of research and troubleshooting already dealing with my problem. I'm not just coming in here and throwing up my mod list expecting someone to figure it all out for me. Long story short, my heavily modded Skyrim is constantly freezing at random times throughout my play sessions. Here are the list of things I've tried so far to attempt fixing this problem:

 

-Clean Re-install of the game + mods (several times)

-Clean Re-install of latest NVIDIA Drivers

-BOSS Load Order my mods

-WryeBash Bash Patch my mods

-Lower in-game visual settings

-Remove mods one by one to figure out the problem (very tedious, lead to little results)

-I even attempted to manually install every mod rather than using NMM

 

This has all been pretty futile, as nothing I've done has solved my dilemma. Skyrim is one of my favorite games, and I used to be able to play it just fine with mods but lately it's just been freezing over and over again making it unplayable. I really can't play it without mods, since I've already beat Vanilla skyrim completely... so I'm really hoping someone can help me out here.

 

The biggest question I have... is there a way to pinpoint just what exactly is causing the game to freeze... for example log files? I have enabled logging in skyrim but I can't for the life of me figure out how to read the Papyrus Log files. They are too jumbled and confusing for me to understand which lines are detailing what caused the game to crash. Can anyone make sense of those log files for me?

 

My specs: (Even though I really don't think this matters. I can run Vanilla Skyrim just fine, and other games just fine. I really don't think it's my hardware, I think it has something to do with one of the mods causing my game to freeze)

Operating System- Windows 7 Ultimate

Processor- Intel i5 2500k CPU 3.30 GHz

Memory- 4GB

System Type- 64 bit OS

Display- Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti

 

BOSS List:

Recognised

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 50 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide)

Dawnguard.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 591 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide)

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

HearthFires.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 163 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide)

3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm Active

Ambience Music Overhaul.esm Active

SPIKE.esm Active

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active

ApachiiHair.esm Active

RaceCompatibility.esm Active

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Note: Recommend to use the Unofficial Dawnguard Patch in addition to Dawnguard. This is need for correct work with Dawnguard.

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Ambience Music Overhaul - Combat.esp Active

Ambience Music Overhaul - Interiors and Special.esp Active

Birds.esp Active

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active

SaveHotKey.esp Active

ScenicCarriages.esp Active

ShootingStars.esp Active

Footprints.esp Active

bouncy_bodices_for_unp_bbp.esp

Note: Be sure you have the correct body replacer installed for this esp. Use only one version.

bouncy_booties.esp

Note: Be sure you have the correct bouncy_bodices mod installed for this esp.

Cloaks.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim, get the compatibility patch in the WIC optional files.

1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp

Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp

Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim (even with compatibility patch). To fix this use another WICCloaks esp or uninstall cloaks of skyrim.

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

MashupUNP.esp

Pirsing.esp Active

PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Incompatible with: SkyRe_Main.esp

UNPB Barbarian Armor.esp Active

3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp Active

Requires: CBBE

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Weightless).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Light Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Half Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Weightless).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Light Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Reduced Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active

Headtracking.esp Active

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active

Requires: Dawnguard Compatibility_Patch.

UnreadBooksGlow.esp Active

BFSEffects.esp Active

Realistic crime report radius.esp Active

Sneak Tools.esp Active

Error: Delete. Already included in SkyRe_Main.esp.

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Active

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp Active

The Dance of Death.esp Active

Crimson Tide - Blood.esp Active

Incompatible with: dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}

Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.

Requires: Skyrim -Community- Uncapper for full perk functional

Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'

Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.

Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:

Note: [Actor]

Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

Note: [Combat]

Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

SkyRe_Combat.esp Active

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active

100XCarryWeight.esp Active

NiruinsBusinessPlan.esp

Requires: Fores New Idles in Skyrim (FNIS 3.1+)

OrientalRace.esp Active

3DNPC.esp Active

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active

Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

CompanionValfar.esp Active

moveit.esp

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp Active

SkyRe_Races.esp Active

Incompatible with: EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp Active

Incompatible with: SkyRe. Get the compatible version here.

getSnowy.esp Active

WATER.esp Active

Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active

 

Unrecognized

Ambience Music Overhaul - Addon.esp Active

SylviaTattoo.esp Active

 

SKSE

SKSE Version: 0.1.5.11

CFM_extensions.dll

rmm_plugin.dll

WindowedRelocator.dll Version: 1.3.0.0

 

For the record, I have no idea how to clean the dirty edits in those top three files. I'm not sure if that's what could be causing the freezing but I tried to follow the tutorials about cleaning those files and I was completely lost. As a matter of fact I'm pretty sure that those files were dirty even after I re-installed the game completely which was confusing to me.

 

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me out here guys I really want to play Skyrim again without all the drama.

[acidzebra]

The "dirty edits" in official skyrim DLC can be ignored. But have you read your BOSS logs?

 

You've got a massive amount of conflicts and incompatibilities. Run BOSS, read the logs, and act on the warnings and errors.I can see 4 or 5 fatal errors just glancing at it.

 

"Incompatible with" means "do not run these two mods at the same time".

Edited October 21, 2012 by acidzebra

[adzig8]

I read the BOSS logs and have made adjustments that it suggested. Maybe I'm overlooking something? Could you list the fatal errors you're noticing?

[acidzebra]

"Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Note: Recommend to use the Unofficial Dawnguard Patch in addition to Dawnguard. This is need for correct work with Dawnguard."

 

...but no unofficial dawnguard patch in your list.

 

Cloaks.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim, get the compatibility patch in the WIC optional files.

1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp

Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp

Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim (even with compatibility patch). To fix this use another WICCloaks esp or uninstall cloaks of skyrim.

 

...this is a mess you'll have to sort out.

 

Sneak Tools.esp Active

Error: Delete. Already included in SkyRe_Main.esp.

 

...which means remove.

 

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active

Crimson Tide - Blood.esp Active

Incompatible with: dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

 

(also both cause a lot of issues in my experience and be careful with removing, do it in a small cell like a player home)

...so run on or the other, not both.

 

SkyRe_Races.esp Active

Incompatible with: EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

 

...so run one of the other, not both.

 

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp Active

Incompatible with: SkyRe. Get the compatible version here.

 

Final note, given the placement of SkyRe in your mod list, are you sure you have read the SkyRe readme carefully?And you haven't installed the community uncapper, see

 

Requires: Skyrim -Community- Uncapper for full perk functional

Edited October 21, 2012 by acidzebra

[adzig8]

Ok, I'm making the adjustments necessary and I'm going to play a little bit and see if the freezing stops. Thank you for pointing out the obvious to me... I apologize but I do appreciate the help. Hopefully this stops the freezing.

[adzig8]

Ok I fixed the issues with BOSS:

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 50 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide)

Dawnguard.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 591 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide)

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

HearthFires.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 163 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide)

3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm Active

Ambience Music Overhaul.esm Active

SPIKE.esm Active

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active

ApachiiHair.esm Active

RaceCompatibility.esm Active

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active

Ambience Music Overhaul - Combat.esp Active

Ambience Music Overhaul - Interiors and Special.esp Active

Birds.esp Active

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active

SaveHotKey.esp Active

ScenicCarriages.esp Active

ShootingStars.esp Active

Footprints.esp Active

bouncy_bodices_for_unp_bbp.esp

Note: Be sure you have the correct body replacer installed for this esp. Use only one version.

bouncy_booties.esp

Note: Be sure you have the correct bouncy_bodices mod installed for this esp.

Cloaks.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

MashupUNP.esp Active

Pirsing.esp Active

UNPB Barbarian Armor.esp Active

3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

XAC.esp Active

Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp Active

Requires: CBBE

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Weightless).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Light Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Half Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Weightless).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Reduced Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Light Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp Active

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active

Headtracking.esp Active

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active

dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp Active

BFSEffects.esp Active

Realistic crime report radius.esp Active

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

The Dance of Death.esp Active

SkyRe_Main.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}

Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.

Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'

Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.

Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:

Note: [Actor]

Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

Note: [Combat]

Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

SkyRe_Combat.esp Active

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active

100XCarryWeight.esp Active

OrientalRace.esp Active

3DNPC.esp Active

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active

Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active

CompanionValfar.esp Active

moveit.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp Active

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

getSnowy.esp Active

WATER.esp Active

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

I am still freezing... the freeze isn't a complete system freeze... it's just the game that freezes and I can easily alt+ctrl out of the program and start it back up. The freeze is occurring randomly but quite frequently. Is there a way I can pinpoint what is causing the freeze with the log files?

[acidzebra]

Well, you've taken the first steps on the long and wonderful journey of creating a stable and playable modded skyrim.

 

I highly recommend after removing all those mods you go to a small interior cell (like a player home), open the console and type "show timescale". Note this number it returns. Then type "set timescale to 50000", close the console, then wait for a minute or two, then open again and type "set timescale to [number you wrote down]". Then use the in-game wait or sleep function and sleep for 24 hours. Then save your game and exit. Start skyrim again, and load your save.

 

You now have a somewhat clean save. (tip - removing mods works best if you make a save after you enter this small cell, then exit skyrim, remove mod, load skyrim, then do the above waiting thing - you never know what background scripts and whatnot may still be running)

Exit the building, and run around for a bit. Is it more stable now?

 

Next, you probably should head over to the Skyrim Redone page, it's a great mod, I use it too, but it is fairly picky about load order. Read the README. Because BOSS will just dump every mod it doesn't know about at the bottom of the load order. This may not be optimal. You should also probably read the UFO page, same story.

 

You also appear to be running UNP, I don't run that stuff so I don't really know, but one of your mods says

Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp Active

Requires: CBBE

but is that installed? I'm only vaguely aware of both. And are you ACTUALLY ADDING MODS TO AN ALREADY UNSTABLE INSTALL?

 

And are you sure you've installed the unofficial dawnguard patch?

http://skyrim.nexusm...com/mods/23491/

 

Finally, is your PC up to the task of running the high-res texture mods? Have you been messing with skyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini? What have you changed?

 

Questions, questions ;)

Edited October 21, 2012 by acidzebra

[chaospearl]

A few more things I noticed: ScenicCarriages is not compatible with Dawnguard. You'll have to ditch one of the two. You have bouncy bodices for UNP, Barbarian Armor for UNP, and Sweet Sexy Lingerie for CBBE. You cannot have both CBBE and UNP at the same time, they're two different body mods. You have Headbomb's Weightless Potions, Lightweight Potions, and Half Weight Potions all at the same time. Pick just ONE. Same with the Headbomb's Food esps. Pick one, lose the other three. That's just what I see off the top of my head. I would bet money there are other totally incompatible mods in there too.

 

Just the fact that you said you had read the BOSS logs and made the adjustments, but you very obviously had not, makes me think you haven't done any of the other stuff either. Your mod list is still a huge incompatible mess. That makes it important to figure out exactly which ones are conflicting.

 

You stated that you tried removing mods one by one and had "very little result" ... what was the very little result? Did you just give up halfway through and not want to do it anymore? Unfortunately, there is no choice. That is usually a surefire way to figure out which mod(s) is causing an issue. Yes, it is tedious, but there really isn't an easy way. You can make it easier on yourself than doing the one... at... a.... time... method, though.

 

Start with a vanilla game. No mods. Does it freeze? If no, then you know this is a mod issue.

 

Add back in about half of your mods. Does it freeze?

 

Remove the mods you just added. Add back in the OTHER half. Does it freeze?

 

If it froze up with only one of the chunks of mods, then your problem is somewhere in one of those mods. Start the whole process again, but this time just use two halves of the chunk of mods that caused the problem. Put aside all the others for now. Essentially add them a bunch at a time and when the freezes start, then you try again but this time only add half of that bunch, and so on, narrowing it down until you find the issue. It's quicker than one-by-one.

 

If it froze up with both totally different sets of mods, it's more likely to be that you're simply running more mods than your system can handle. Get rid of some of the more intensive ones.

 

Either way, you shouldn't be starting with a load of mods and removing them one by one. Start with an unmodded game and add them one by one until the problem crops up.