Companions - Starting the Silver Hand revenge quests

[llloyd]

It's been a while since I've played as a Companion. I am up to the point where they turn me into a werewolf then clear Gallows Rock. After I speak to Aela and she says go, I go, and the quest completes. But no new quest starts and when I talk to Aela back at Jorvasker (sp?) she has no quest options for me. How do I start the revenge quests that lead up to the next main Companion quest to start?

[wfandrews]

Try going back to a save before you entered the Underforge and see if that works.

[llloyd]

Yeah that seems where the breakage is. I get the quest objective "Enter the Underforge" and when I do so it doesn't recognize that and progress with the turning me into a werewolf thing. Last time I nudged it forward with a setstage but, yeah, same thing on this rerun. Hmm..

 

My Mods and Load Order

 

 

 

 

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[llloyd]

Hmm. Well, it's not the Companions - No Werewolf Option mod. I'm at a loss here. Anyone? >.<

 

Update: Further probing, only two entries in Tes5Edit for the quest C03 - Silver Hand, Skyrim and Dawnguard, Dawnguard seems to be only adding a ban on Vampire Lords from becoming werewolves. Makes sense. Skjor only has entries from Skyrim and Immersive Weapons and it seems all IW is adding is a wolf weapon to his inventory. Aela, otoh, is interesting, she has entries from Skyrim, Immersive Weapons, and UFO, with UFO undoing a lot of what IW is doing. Actually this is odd as i read it. IW is adding dead body scripts ( WIDeadBodyCleanupScript, DeathContainer, WiDeadbodyNonAccessibleDeathContainerRefDuplicate, and Master WI quest to the Script section) which is undone by UFO , adds the wolf weapon which UFO removes, tweaks with her skill values which UFO reverts back to vanilla, huh... I'll drag IW down below UFO and try again, but later when I have a free minute. I have a save from before Skjor asking me to meet him in the Underforge and the quest starts. If not I'll have to remove IW , retest, and remove UFO and retest, to see if they are the problem. Otherwise no other mod touches any of the NPCs involved (Aela and Skjor) or the Quest.

[Grospolina]

UFO is known to be unstable and many modders do not recommend installing it anymore. It seems that you've confirmed one reason not to use it. While moving Immersive Weapons below UFO may fix it, it will also undo anything that UFO has added to Aela.

I think these are viable replacement follower overhauls:

• FollowerLivePackage (FLP) (and english re-translation)
• Extensible Follower Framework (EFF)
• Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks (iAFT)

[llloyd]

Ah, ok, when I first started to use ufo it was the go to mod for followers. I'll give those a try and see if they fix the problem with it not recognizing me as having entered the Underforge when I have.

[Grospolina]

Yeah, I used to use UFO too.

 

The one I've been hearing about lately is Nether's Follower Framework. I haven't tried it myself, but a lot of people recommend it. It's available for both Classic and SE.

[llloyd]

Yeah, I mean the only problem I am having is that the quest is not recognizing me as having entered the Underforge. If I force it then Aela won't give me the revenge quest at the end of Gallows Rock.

[llloyd]

Update: Nope, I right clicked on UFO in the Mods tab and chose Uninstall Mod -> From All Profiles, loaded up Skyrim, loaded from before the quest starts, and it still doesn't recognize when I enter the Underforge.

[Grospolina]

When you return to Jorrvaskr, does Aela have any new greetings? That should indicate that the next round of radiant quests are available. She says:

• "I've been running interference for you around here. I don't think anyone's caught on to our little campaign. Yet."
• "Have you been bringing the battle to the Silver Hand, friend? I wish I could be there with you. Soon enough."
• "I hope the hunting goes well, brother/sister. We've got the cowards on their heels now."

Then you have to do two new radiant quests. Sometimes you have to wait a bit for them to appear. And sometimes it just gets stuck.

 

Source: UESP

Edited November 23, 2019 by Grospolina