Camera bug

[Lordcobra12]

Hello, im having this weird bug with the camera but it only happens when im wearing power armor or elite riot gear.

 

http://www.filedropper.com/bug

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here is my load order (i have LOOT so it should be good):

 

GameMode=FalloutNV

FalloutNV.esm=1

DeadMoney.esm=1

HonestHearts.esm=1

OldWorldBlues.esm=1

LonesomeRoad.esm=1

GunRunnersArsenal.esm=1

ClassicPack.esm=1

MercenaryPack.esm=1

TribalPack.esm=1

CaravanPack.esm=1

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm=1

oHUD.esm=1

FCOMaster.esm=1

SolidProject.esm=1

Project Nevada - Core.esm=1

SelectFire.esm=1

ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm=1

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm=1

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp=1

ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm=1

NVWillow.esp=1

Lunette.esm=1

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp=1

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm=1

NevadaSkies.esm=1

UWHNV-Core.esm=1

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp=1

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp=1

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp=1

FCO - Russell.esp=0

AmmoChecking.esp=1

FCO - NPC Changes.esp=1

FCO - Race Addon.esp=1

ItemBrowser.esp=1

FCO - PathFixing Vanilla.esp=1

Roberts_NewVegas.esp=1

FCO - Roberts Patch.esp=1

1nivRobertHandFixTest.esp=1

dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp=1

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp=1

Project Nevada - All DLC.esp=1

EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp=1

Uncut Wasteland.esp=1

SimpleStreetLights (Extra Lights).esp=1

WeaponModsExpanded.esp=1

WMX-DLCMerged.esp=1

Unofficial Patch Plus.esp=1

Unofficial Patch Plus - Addendum.esp=1

FCO - GlowingOne.esp=1

FCO + YUP.esp=1

FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp=1

dD-Reduced Dismember Force - EVE.esp=1

dD-Smaller Wounds - EVE.esp=1

Beards.esp=1

FSW.esp=1

Immersive Hit Reactions.esp=1

Project Nevada - WMX.esp=1

Project Nevada - EVE All DLC.esp=1

WMX-POPMerged.esp=1

TerrifyingPCName.esp=1

SignatureWeapons.esp=1

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp=1

NPCs Can Miss.esp=1

More Perks Merged.esp=1

Distributed Necklaces and Chains.esp=1

Facewrap.esp=1

Sunglasses Shipment.esp=1

Sunglasses Shipment - Four Eyes.esp=1

EpockTacticalClothingRemix.esp=1

CorpsesUseVanillaSkeletons.esp=1

BetterRiotGears.esp=1

Dark Justice Duster.esp=1

Riot Gear Neck Cover.esp=1

FNV-PC idles.esp=1

A Better Cass.esp=1

Raul Repairs Everywhere - Free Repair.esp=1

UnlimitedCompanions.esp=1

NV_STTraitsandPerks - NVSE.esp=1

NV_STTraitsandPerks.esp=1

NV_STTraitsandPerks_Crunch - NVSE.esp=1

NV_STTraitsandPerks_Crunch.esp=1

WMX-EVE-AllDLCMerged.esp=1

Exciters M4 Pack.esp=1

BabyGoat Black Betty Weapon Mod.esp=1

Thompson-Center Contender.esp=1

RebecaAna44ver3.esp=1

WearGloves.esp=1

CAGE 1.9.3.2.esp=1

Dark Hero Duster.esp=1

ProneMode.esp=1

Holster Gear.esp=1

Karmic Balance.esp=1

00BulletForBenny.esp=1

AN94.esp=1

I Got Spurs.esp=1

BT87.esp=1

NevadaSkies - Darker Nights.esp=1

colt conversion.esp=1

HeightMenu.esp=1

UWHNV-Addon-Time for Bed NV.esp=0

UWHNV-Addon-NoCompanionsRoom.esp=0

UWHNV-Addon-GRA.esp=1

UWHNV-Addon-FollowerHome.esp=1

UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp=1

Edited December 16, 2019 by Lordcobra12

[dubiousintent]

First let's address your "overwriting Vanilla UI+" issue. Are you using any UI replacement mod (such as DarnUI)? I'm not speaking about mods to UI elements like oHUD or HeightMenu (I see those), but complete replacements of the HUD/UI XML files. If so, then likely the message is a "closest match" to the problem from another mod such as MCM. Please see the wiki "HUD-UI-Menu issues" article for the general issues and adapt as appropriate.

Now, as to your "camera" problem. I'm not able to download your screenshot from DeviantArt. It's not a valid link (doesn't even display on their page). See "How to markup images (etc) in forum posts and comments" article for how to use "Image tags". Use a site like "www.bild.me/" or "www.filedropper.com/" to host them, because they provide you with a link designed to be pasted into a forum message.

That said, I suggest you start by cleaning out your "load order" a bit by moving out any plugins that are "not active" (i.e. "=0"). Also, you do not need both an "All DLC" and a specific DLC version of the same plugin, such as:

* UWHNV-Addon-GRA.esp

* UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp

See "The Rule of One" below. If a plugin is present in the "Data" folder, it gets loaded even if not marked as "active".

 

* You really need to use a "Merge Patch File" with that collection of mods. Please see the 'Third Rule: The Rule of One' and 'Merge Patch File' sections of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article.

I recommend anyone read the entire "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article to understand the differences between this game and others you may have experience with; especially if this is your first attempt to play a modded FNV or it's been more than a year since you last did so. It is designed for someone who has never played a modded PC game before, so it tries to avoid making any assumptions.

-Dubious-

[Lordcobra12]

First let's address your "overwriting Vanilla UI+" issue. Are you using any UI replacement mod (such as DarnUI)? I'm not speaking about mods to UI elements like oHUD or HeightMenu (I see those), but complete replacements of the HUD/UI XML files. If so, then likely the message is a "closest match" to the problem from another mod such as MCM. Please see the wiki "HUD-UI-Menu issues" article for the general issues and adapt as appropriate.

 

Now, as to your "camera" problem. I'm not able to download your screenshot from DeviantArt. It's not a valid link (doesn't even display on their page). See "How to markup images (etc) in forum posts and comments" article for how to use "Image tags". Use a site like "www.bild.me/" or "www.filedropper.com/" to host them, because they provide you with a link designed to be pasted into a forum message.

 

That said, I suggest you start by cleaning out your "load order" a bit by moving out any plugins that are "not active" (i.e. "=0"). Also, you do not need both an "All DLC" and a specific DLC version of the same plugin, such as:

* UWHNV-Addon-GRA.esp

* UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp

See "The Rule of One" below. If a plugin is present in the "Data" folder, it gets loaded even if not marked as "active".

 

* You really need to use a "Merge Patch File" with that collection of mods. Please see the 'Third Rule: The Rule of One' and 'Merge Patch File' sections of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article.

 

I recommend anyone read the entire "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article to understand the differences between this game and others you may have experience with; especially if this is your first attempt to play a modded FNV or it's been more than a year since you last did so. It is designed for someone who has never played a modded PC game before, so it tries to avoid making any assumptions.

 

-Dubious-

Hello, thank you for your help. i solved the vanilla ui+ problem and removed the plugin that you told me. im a little bit clumsy with all of this because im starting so im a liitle bit ashamed and i apologize for bothering you and responding late.

 

The one thing that i can not solve yet is the camera bug but now i managed to take a better screenshot. im going to edit my post so you can see it.

have a nice day and thank you.

[dubiousintent]

Don't worry or feel embarrassed about needing help. Happens all of us.

 

Now that I can see the screenshot, it appears as if the "chase camera" is following quite closely over your right shoulder (typical for "Third Person POV"). You are getting a lot of obstruction to the left because of the PA Helmet.

 

There are two cameras: the "First Person POV" where you are looking out the character's eyes via the HUD, and the "Third Person POV" of the "chase camera". There are mods (such as "Further 3rd Person Camera", "Centered 3rd Person Camera", "Dynamic Third Person Camera", "Fallout Camera Auto Switch Sides") that let you adjust the position behind and to the side of the Third Person POV. You probably want to use the "Further" mod. Some of them can work together to enable you to both adjust the "follow distance" and "automatically switch shoulders".

 

There are also mods like "New Vegas - Enhanced Camera" for First Person POV.

 

There are others if you search the Nexus Mods using the keyword "camera". These are just ones I have investigated.

 

-Dubious-

[Lordcobra12]

Hello,the problem is that im in first person and that happens with both of my arms. Im going to try with the further camera but since this is in first person i doubt it work, im also going to try a mod called "free camera" and do a few things. I will update soon with the results and hopefully good news.

I already tried changing the fov but it was useless and this only hapens in power armors or armos with big shoulders so lets see if this may work

[dubiousintent]

That is supposed to be 1st Person POV? I don't see any obvious PA mods in your list, so supposedly that is "vanilla"? (I don't use PA, so I haven't seen it myself.) I would check to see if there is some mod affecting PA which might have caused the bad camera position. It should definitely not be shifted to "over the shoulder" at all.

 

Presumably this is while wearing a PA Helmet? You might want to look into the "Visor DIY" mod.

 

-Dubious-

[Lordcobra12]

Yes, its only in first person. im a black retextured elite riot gear (i doubt thats the problem) and i could wear any helmet and it would be the same no matter what. if it helps im waring the plage doctor hat and the advanced recon helmet (the one from project nevada that looks like stealth armor helmet).

 

I really think its a problem with enchanced camera being to close to my torso or something related to the shoulders because if i use a outfit like the vault suit its tottaly ok and i dont have that problem but with armors with shoulder plates it always happens.

 

As for PA i dont understand what do you mean by that. whats PA if i may ask?

Edited December 16, 2019 by Lordcobra12

[dubiousintent]

"PA" = "Power Armor".

 

As far as I know (not something I have had reason to investigate) in 1st Person View you are using the HUD view, or if wearing an "enclosed helmet" or a "visor overlay" that restricts the view, a "mask" to the HUD similar to that with binoculars. In either case, the "camera" is where your eyes are supposed to be; not somewhere else on your body. Which is why I suspect you have something causing the game to think you are actually in 3rd Person View instead.

 

Try this experiment. Instead of your "retextured" elite riot gear, try using a vanilla version and see if you have the same "view". And try without the "hat". I don't think vanilla permits you to combine a "helmet" and a "hat". Head covers are usually one or none because there are only a limited number of "body slots" on the head for such objects and "hats" replace "hair". If the problem vanishes, then you have a mod conflict or something a mod author needs to fix.

 

Otherwise, try without any camera mods.

 

-Dubious-

[Lordcobra12]

Ok so... i removed my helmet, my hat and nothing changed. then i removed the retexture of the elite riot gear and same, then i tried with advanced riot gear, than with riot gear, then with all power armos and same problem.

Thing is when i removed enhanced camera the problem solved but i cant see my own body and that makes me sad because its a good mod.

Edited December 18, 2019 by Lordcobra12

[dubiousintent]

At least you have pinned down the mod having the problem. That's half the battle.

 

Anything camera related also involves "Field of View" (FOV), which has complex interactions. You might try adding the mod "FOV Slider" with Enhanced Camera and see how that works out. You might also find the STEP "FOV" article of some interest as well.

 

-Dubious-