Fallout 3 ending...

[macmert]

There is also something really annoying, I dont know if you saved Fawkes the mutant, he claims that he is immune to rad, that is why he grabs the GECK from the vault... Why not have him punch in the code? I beat the game with myself dying, there was like 10 rad per second, I saw 146 rad per second... I was fried in the vault in mere seconds... Fawkes would really punch in the codes, would go out AND we would seal the air lock... It took some time the purifier started working, so I can think of a work around just off my head, I cant believe Bethesda missed that out...

 

How come I cant play on? I mean even if I send in the BoS gal, I am alive and well...

 

This is an utter failure, I wish Bethesda would be more creative for the ending and the end scene...

[Conscripted]

There is also something really annoying, I dont know if you saved Fawkes the mutant, he claims that he is immune to rad, that is why he grabs the GECK from the vault... Why not have him punch in the code? I beat the game with myself dying, there was like 10 rad per second, I saw 146 rad per second... I was fried in the vault in mere seconds... Fawkes would really punch in the codes, would go out AND we would seal the air lock... It took some time the purifier started working, so I can think of a work around just off my head, I cant believe Bethesda missed that out...

Don't forget Charon. Ghouls are healed by radiation, so he wouldn't care how "bad" it was in there.

[msalgado]

For me, Fawkes saying "Nah, I dont wanna do it. I would rather see you glowing like a lamp before you burn to ashes".

 

THAT really blew the whole fallout experience a few miles away.

 

The game is great, but I clearly remember when I heard doctor LI saying Blah blah, someone has to put the code, blah blah, radiation, blah, someone has to die..

 

I CLEARLY remember thinking HAH, this is FALLOUT, I have FAWKES here who is IMUNE and WILL put the code!! No reason to worry!

 

So having him say no, cause he thinks I need to DIE a hero...damn... THAT really put me off.

 

I stayed away from the game a whole week after beating it just cause of that. I was really pissed, the whole idea of CONSEQUENCES and CHOICES and FREEDOM blew away right there, in the ending.

 

Bethesda was REALLY badly oriented there... I cant believe they didnt ask anyones opinion about how good the ending was..

I cant belive that, when they inserted fawkes dialogs they didnt stop and think "hey, that's stupid but leave it that way".

 

Well, when the CS is out, the ending will be the first thing to mod, for me.

[Guest]

I think the ending was supposed to be the fight with the giant robot spewing anti-commie rhetoric (kinda adding on as live action end movie). The complete ridiculousness of that and the non stop action I must say was awesome. :biggrin:

 

As for the ending clips... I must agree, no where near as detailed as Fallout 2. I just think Bethesda thought they could get away with the cool ending fight and a few movies. Well we got Michael Dorn doing the voice of the robot in the tough end fight of Fallout 2 plus several complete endings (not to mention Dan Quayle spelling out P-O-T-A-T-O-E). Too bad Fallout 3 couldn't have given more variety ending. If they take any ques from Oblivion they can easily make expansions, something the first two games never had. Now that I think would be awesome and far better than just a few more endings.

 

Overall awesome game, lame number of movie endings, hope they make expansions.

[xeopherith]

I honestly was extremely disappointed and I would recommend any fan of a good story to ever avoid finishing the game. There are so many holes in why the game has to end that way that its not funny.

 

When I had to go to the citadel I thought to myself... This might be the ending or maybe it isn't. I know I didn't take care of the Mutants in DC. I went into the mall and killed everything at one point but I didnt keep that save game. There are a ton of spots up north that I know I haven't been in. It seemed like quests were all in the south...

 

So assuming that this could possibly be the end I brought the fat man, flamer, sniper rifle, missle launcher, mini-gun, laser gatling from my locker. Expecting to have some massive brawl to get to the end. Why else would I have saved 50 missiles, 15 mini-nukes, 2000 flamer ammo, 3500 mini-gun ammo, ect. Very disappointed in only firing 4-5 missiles total.

 

Next, why cant I just let the purifier blow up...? What happens if I kill Dr. Li, is that possible? She cant talk on the intercom if she is dead. Why couldn't I have used a number of other methods to activate the purifier, all of which would have worked.

 

I know that this doesn't seal the deal for the fallout series because even though Eden was destroyed, it was just one of the many computers that were all over the US. The mutant problem isn't gone and by no means did all of the enclave get destroyed (they weren't all in the same building, they are all over the US). However, it seems to me like they tried to kill the series with fallout 3. I wonder if that was some kind of licensing deal...

 

I would have been happier if when I activated the purifier I found that the Brotherhood of Steel put the virus inside the purifier already since they dont like mutants or ghouls but it have the effect of either breaking the purifier or making a very toxic water that nobody can drink.

 

I would think if you had an evil character they should have had the option not to turn on the purifier...

 

Doesn't the game say in the prologue that you might kill your own father when you find him if you feel that way? They act like that is a possibility.

 

 

 

 

Just to sum up what I been saying I was disappointed there wasn't any END battle nor was there a climax to the 45 hours I put into the game. If there isn't a very large expansion pack or a sequel I might just have to stop playing games altogether. This was too good of a game to end this way.

 

I would recommend for anyone else still playing to spend all the ammo you can on having fun. Use all the ammunition you have until your using melee weapons, dont save a damn thing. You wont need it.

[macmert]

The game is great, until you beat it... I just cant believe Bethesda screw this game in the end, you come up with a rather good story and create a beautiful wasteland, then make us push a few buttons and die a hero... I hope they will blend in a few expansions so that huge world would not go to waste...

[Khet]

Well, after giving my original post some more thought, and decided how I felt about the Fallout 3 ending, I would personally have to say, that what's more disappointing that the 'you're forced to die' ending, is the lack of... suspense. I mean, in Oblivion you're running through the IC, go into the Talos plaza and there's Mehrune's Dagon himself smashing away at things. That has some suspense... But Fallout 3... I don't even remember his name (Eden's righthand man) but I blew him away with a couple shotgun shots to the head. Awesome.

 

Fallout 2? You got the battle with Frank Horrigan before the end. That was incredible. I don't even remember if it was possible to beat him without reprogramming the turrets to fire on him.

 

Ah well, Fallout 3 is still a decent game, until the end that is. But, only need to play to the end once, from here on out it's exploration and waiting for the CS to come out heh

[Seviche]

I know that this doesn't seal the deal for the fallout series because even though Eden was destroyed, it was just one of the many computers that were all over the US. The mutant problem isn't gone and by no means did all of the enclave get destroyed (they weren't all in the same building, they are all over the US). However, it seems to me like they tried to kill the series with fallout 3. I wonder if that was some kind of licensing deal...

Well, do understand that every Fallout title happens in it's own little world without a whole lot of information about what's going on with the rest of the world. Every Enclave base seems to think it's the top dog (Paranoia, anyone?) and every threat is the end of the world.

 

Honestly, the lack of an option for having Charon (sp?) or Fawkes punch in the code and everybody retire with mimosas after wards IS a bit silly. Then again, I didn't have a companion (I always solo as companions seem to get in the way) so it wasn't a silly choice for me at all. Either ask Lyons to step up or do it myself. No choice at all, for me, really.

 

I wonder if the unfinished feeling to the Wasteland was on purpose, not to "Kill the Franchise" (which is stupid statement, no offense intended) but rather to get the modders out there much quicker and producing new content faster. Honestly, everybody seems to be looking around and saying "Hmm, something is missing. It needs to be created! Created by me!" and it almost seems to be on purpose.

 

Think of it this way: NMA and other very vocal groups would never have been satisfied by anything Bethesda could have created. So rather than try to make Fallout 3 adhere to some imagined vision based on obsessive fanboy nostalgia and their projected fears, Bethesda makes their version. Of course it's not quite up to what we'd hope for, so it leaves us modding the heck out of it. Really, Bethesda may have given us a huge gift. FO3 may just be a big giant "Here's one way to make Fallout 3" example or tech demo of sorts. The game is to let us know what's possible, leaving everybody salivating at the thought of changing the Wasteland and ready to hit the ground running when the G.E.C.K. comes out.

 

Really, FO3 as it stands isn't a bad thing. It might be incomplete for a reason. I just prefer to think that the reason isn't incompetence. :whistling:

[macmert]

I know that this doesn't seal the deal for the fallout series because even though Eden was destroyed, it was just one of the many computers that were all over the US. The mutant problem isn't gone and by no means did all of the enclave get destroyed (they weren't all in the same building, they are all over the US). However, it seems to me like they tried to kill the series with fallout 3. I wonder if that was some kind of licensing deal...

Well, do understand that every Fallout title happens in it's own little world without a whole lot of information about what's going on with the rest of the world. Every Enclave base seems to think it's the top dog (Paranoia, anyone?) and every threat is the end of the world.

 

Honestly, the lack of an option for having Charon (sp?) or Fawkes punch in the code and everybody retire with mimosas after wards IS a bit silly. Then again, I didn't have a companion (I always solo as companions seem to get in the way) so it wasn't a silly choice for me at all. Either ask Lyons to step up or do it myself. No choice at all, for me, really.

 

I wonder if the unfinished feeling to the Wasteland was on purpose, not to "Kill the Franchise" (which is stupid statement, no offense intended) but rather to get the modders out there much quicker and producing new content faster. Honestly, everybody seems to be looking around and saying "Hmm, something is missing. It needs to be created! Created by me!" and it almost seems to be on purpose.

 

Think of it this way: NMA and other very vocal groups would never have been satisfied by anything Bethesda could have created. So rather than try to make Fallout 3 adhere to some imagined vision based on obsessive fanboy nostalgia and their projected fears, Bethesda makes their version. Of course it's not quite up to what we'd hope for, so it leaves us modding the heck out of it. Really, Bethesda may have given us a huge gift. FO3 may just be a big giant "Here's one way to make Fallout 3" example or tech demo of sorts. The game is to let us know what's possible, leaving everybody salivating at the thought of changing the Wasteland and ready to hit the ground running when the G.E.C.K. comes out.

 

Really, FO3 as it stands isn't a bad thing. It might be incomplete for a reason. I just prefer to think that the reason isn't incompetence. :whistling:

 

 

I think you are being optimistic :D I guess they were just being lazy...

 

"Hey Do you think we should add cars to the wasteland?"

 

"Nope, dont worry we have modders who work for free, just leak out the codes and they will do the rest" :P

 

Or am I being too paranoid :D

[Seviche]

I think you are being optimistic :D I guess they were just being lazy...

 

"Hey Do you think we should add cars to the wasteland?"

 

"Nope, dont worry we have modders who work for free, just leak out the codes and they will do the rest" :P

 

Or am I being too paranoid :D

Nah, I think they knew it would get modded to heck and back and that might have caused some quality issues. Still, I do recommend this game to anyone who asks, I like it that much.

 

I had a thought last night, as I was looking at the underside of yet another slag/rock/debris pile that didn't completely touch the ground, they sure as heck didn't have anyone in QC (Quality Control) sneak their way around the wasteland like I did. Shoot, there's hundreds of "artifacts" out there that needed fixing. I'm guessing the G.E.C.K. uses an aerial view for large aspects of land, or at least there is a function that allows for it. There's no other reason, really, that I can think of.

 

Well, maybe incompetence... :whistling: