Modern futurized weapons-

[Kryztof]

So, post your favorite modern weapon (as in today, as in 21st century) and request that someone make it Futurized (As in what the weapon might look like if it were modified to be around in the years before the Was), or ask for help on Futurizing a modern weapon.

 

This can be ANY WEAPON USED TODAY IN MILITARY FORCES AROUND THE WORLD.

If it was made in 1777 and is still used today, Then you can request it.

If it was made in 2007, but was discontinued because of random problems or errors, you can still request it (The Future holds anything)

BUT

If it was made in 1930 and is not used actively by any structured military force on the Planet Earth, don't request it. This is for Actively used weapons or Prototype weapons.

 

 

Try to follow an application of:

<Weapon name>

<pictures>

<caliber of weapons>

<comments>

 

You can call anything whatever you want, as long as we know what you're talking about (example: Magazine and clip, You still know what we're talking about, right? Rounds and Bullets, same thing. Sights and aimers, same thing. Butt and Stock, SAME THING. Bullets and Missles, NOT SAME. NOT SAME.)

Not everyone is educated in the ways of Gun-speak. We're sorry.

 

 

 

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My request would be the H&K MP5

Here's some pictures for any reference needed.

Unsilenced with two different versions, top with adjustable stock and the bottom with a static stock

http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hkmp5profilenj7.jpg

 

 

 

Silenced with adjustable stock.

http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=h...520sdjpgjw7.jpg

 

 

Calibers of ammunition come in 9mm, 10mm, and .40 S&W

 

 

 

 

Another good idea would be the Beretta Cx4 Storm, since it already looks pretty futuristic.

 

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/images/reviews/JLSSM6/2.jpg

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...rm-p1030164.jpg

 

 

The magazine is inserted in the handle, like a pistol, so a pistol reload animation might work with it.

Calibers come in 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP

[Moraelin]

Hmm, lemme see:

 

1. The Heckler & Koch PSG1

 

http://www.heckler-koch.de/HKWebText/detai...d/1929/114/4/16

 

Basically a high-acuracy, semi-automatic sniper rifle with 5.56mm ammo. The ammo is already in the game, too.

 

2. H&K MSG90

 

http://www.heckler-koch.com/HKWebText/deta...d/1929/115/4/16

 

Same thing with powerful 7.62x51mm ammo. The game's existing .308 ammo is basically the same thing.

 

3. Heckler & Koch MP7A1 PDW

 

http://www.heckler-koch.de/HKWebText/detailProd/1926/92/4/20

 

Small, powerful, lots of penetration.

 

4. H&K HK417

 

http://www.heckler-koch.com/HKWebText/deta...d/1928/402/4/19

 

Scoped assault-rifle with powerful .308 ammo. And a 20 round clip also doesn't hurt.

 

I figure it's as close as you can get to the Bozar from Fallout 2.

 

5. H&K MG4

 

http://www.heckler-koch.com/Maschinengewehre

 

High rate of fire, 5.56mm NATO ammo, belt fed. I figure it would fit in just nicely as a heavy weapon.

 

6. RPK-74

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...ST-89-06612.jpg

 

(The one on top is an AK-74 for comparison, the one on the bottom is the RPK-74.)

 

Basically an AK-74 with a longer, heavier barrel and 45 round clip, supposed to be used as a squad support weapon. The longer barrel gives it more accuracy, basically, but also marginally more energy for the shot (960m/s muzzle velocity, vs 900m/s for the AK-74.)

 

This one should actually be easy to make, because it's really just the Chinese Assault rifle, a bit elongated.

 

China produces it too, btw, since the game seems to suggest a chinese invasion or something.

 

Normally it takes the Soviet 5.45x39mm ammo, but an export version caled RPK-201 takes NATO 5.56mm ammo which is already in the game.

 

7. RPD

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm.../ff/RPD_AMW.jpg

 

Almost the same thing as the RPK, but it 7.62x39mm, i.e., AK-47 ammo. Belt fed. (That round "drum" is actually the box containing the belt.)

 

8. The SVD, a.k.a., the Dragunov

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...d_1_russian.jpg

 

More of a designated marksman rifle than a true long range sniper rifle, but at the ranges in the game, there is no difference. It could shoot accurately enough at greater distances than the game even renders an enemy. Semi-automatic, 10 round magazine.

 

Original version is chambered for the powerful Soviet 7.62x54mm Rimmed cartridge (their medium machineguns use that too), but an export version chambered in .308 exists too.

 

China produces it too.

[Wreckless1]

The irony in this thread is funny.

 

Being 'Fallout' I'd like to see less of a dependence on existing weapons, since this is an alternate future and all. It already chafes me to no end to see a G3A3 with CETME furniture somehow firing 5.56 from a 24 round magazine, and a mysterious hodgepodge AK that plainly uses the 7.62x39 Magazine yet ALSO fires 5.56 from a 24 round magazine..

 

Such irksome idiocy could have simply been avoided by making new models instead of modeling existing weapons, and folks like myself could just accept the fiction at face value. A 10mm C96 Broomhandle Mauser that does the same damage a BB gun does is equally ridiculous.

 

BTW, with the exception of the MG4, MP7, and CX4 Storm, all the weapons mentioned are designs or modifications of designs that are 30 to 50 years old. Hardly 'modern' in that respect.

 

The MP5 was designed in the mid 60's - hardly a modern design even though it is a fine firearm and timeless in its own right. But so are UZI's and Thompsons.

 

The PSG1 fires 7.62 NATO, not 5.56. Its also close to 30 years old. The MSG90 was splitting the difference between the PSG1's pure precision and the G3SG1's place as essentially a G3A3 with a better trigger and a scope.

 

 

And please, for the love of god unless you're talking about an M1 Garand, its a Magazine... NOT a 'clip'

 

 

 

My personal votes would be for the IMI Tavor and the FN F2000. I'm a sucker for a sinister bullpup design, as long as its not an AUG- AUG's have terrible triggers and I've never enjoyed shooting them.

 

 

IMI Tavor - If you're really clever you'll notice that this gun was 'pictured' in Fallout 2 - though the weapon was named something completely different and fired 5mm from a 20 round mag.. it was also blue LOL.

http://remtek.com/arms/imi/tavor/tavor.gif

 

FN F2000 -

http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/photos/weapons_fireams/fnf2000top.jpg

Pictured here with the grenade launcher, obviously.

[Deleted187290User]

*long informative series of paragraphs*

 

dear god, thank you.

 

I was boiling with rage when I read some of these posts.

 

LISTEN TO THIS MAN

[Earende]

The SAR-21 Singapore Assault Rifle. I do not like it but it is my country's first homemade rifle and it at least looks decent.

 

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/6994/sar211in9.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4594/sar212sr2.jpg

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as31-e.htm

 

Steyr Scout Tactical. I just love this one.

 

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8621/steyrscoutuh1.jpg

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn37-e.htm

[Kaerius]

I'll second the IMI Tavor.

 

Or how about some pistol/SMG/assault rifle based on the metalstorm concept?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DRmuljq9yw

[Deleted187290User]

Please recommend things that are actually practical and proven, not these expensive awkward guns you saw on future weapons.

[Kaerius]

Please recommend things that are actually practical and proven, not these expensive awkward guns you saw on future weapons.

 

1) You're neither TC nor Admin, what gives you the right to order people around?

 

2) He asked for 21st century weapons, and I couldn't think of a better example, this being intended for a game with a war far enough into the future for that to have become an old proven technology by then(nevermind that it's an alternate universe).

 

3) Expensive and awkward? It's a pre-production prototype. I was refering to the pistol that shoots 3 shots before it recoils, or a made up weapon that simply builds on that technology. Heck there's even precedents for this in previous fallout games(particularly fallout 2, which featured H&K G11, which got scrapped without being sold, as well as the vindicator minigun based on that technology).

[Moraelin]

The irony in this thread is funny.

 

Being 'Fallout' I'd like to see less of a dependence on existing weapons, since this is an alternate future and all. It already chafes me to no end to see a G3A3 with CETME furniture somehow firing 5.56 from a 24 round magazine, and a mysterious hodgepodge AK that plainly uses the 7.62x39 Magazine yet ALSO fires 5.56 from a 24 round magazine..

 

1. So mod the name of that ammo tzo say 7.62x39mm. And yes, a G3 version chambered in that calibre existed too. I can personally vouch that the mod works flawlessly and it's a whole 5 minutes to mod it.

 

2. That future split up from ours in the 60's, so anything that existed up to the 60's, will still bloody continue to exist. Alternate futures don't change the past, you know. There'll still be NRA guys who love their AK-47. Heck, there still are guys who own muzzle-loading black-powder muskets, some hundreds of years after they went out of fashion. All those guns won't just disappear, and after a nuclear war, some sod is going to find them in some ruins and use them for lack of something better.

 

3. Here's the important part, that "future" stayed retro. They still have Fatman type nukes like that dropped on Nagasaki, dropped from airplanes. (See the one in Megaton, or the ones in the bomb depot.) They still have car radios with tubes (see the into movie). They have computers where you need a whole rack and a 60's-looking terminal just to keep a diary, and complete with blinking front panel leds. (Which don't even make sense unless it's slow and simple enough to be debugged via those front panel LEDs, and/or to have the bootstrap loaded via toggles and those LEDs.) Etc. It's a 60's themed future, not the Star Wars or Star Trek kind of future.

 

EDIT: Even the G11, since someone else correctly mentioned it, is a project started in _1968_. It's not a SF 21'st century gun, it's just a project from the 60's which obviously got continued when the two realities split.

 

BTW, with the exception of the MG4, MP7, and CX4 Storm, all the weapons mentioned are designs or modifications of designs that are 30 to 50 years old. Hardly 'modern' in that respect.

 

See above. I'm aiming for Fallout kind of weapons, not for 2008 kind of weapon, so that's fully intentional.

 

The MP5 was designed in the mid 60's - hardly a modern design even though it is a fine firearm and timeless in its own right. But so are UZI's and Thompsons.

 

Yes, and I'd actually like to see Uzis and Thompsons in it too. Again that's exactly the kind of weapon that belongs in Fallout: something from the 50's-60's.

 

The PSG1 fires 7.62 NATO, not 5.56.

 

Hmm, I stand corrected. Thanks.

 

As for fragged121... heh. If you get your blood boiling just reading a list of weapons, get some counselling. And is it that big a surprise that different people want to see different things than you do? And exactly what _is_ your problem anyway? A futuristic one gets your blood boiling, but so do those themed around the 60's like the rest of the game? Why don't you do something constructive and post the ones _you_ would like to see, instead of acting like self-important primadonna about other people's posts?

[Kryztof]

Maybe I should rename this thread (Or should it be topic of discussion?) to "Popular (Or should it be Commonly Used?) Weapons (Or should it be Firearms?) of the 21st Century (Or should it be The Years Between 2000A.D. and 2999 A.D.?)" to appease to the Fascist Nation of Fallout 3 Modders (Or should it be Modifiers?)

 

 

 

I didn't ask for some Terminology Nazi to come in my thread and ask me how to run things :]

But yes. the Effin F2k is a good idea. Even though i see it used in plenty of games around. I like it's shape.

 

 

 

Moraelin, You had plenty of really good ideas in your post. I'd like too see alot of those in there, but my problem lies with the high penetration weapons like MP7 A1. I don't think FO3 lets you shoot through walls or people?