Beoroth Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 So, I've just retrieved the "Horn of Jurgen Windcaller" note for the umpteenth time, & I return to Riverwood as requested. However, as soon as I enter Alvor & his wife lay into me, then the guards join in. If I fight my way as far as the inn, Delphine comes out & joins in the fun. If I try going to Whiterun instead, everything is fine until I enter the Bannered Mare, at which point Uthgerd attacks me. I have Lydia & General Caius with me & am running the "Ultimate Follower Overhaul" mod. However the same thing happens even when I de-activate the mod. Interesting that the guards don't attack until after the NPCs ... ... ... Anybody got any clues as to what might be going on? Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The7Sins Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) So, I've just retrieved the "Horn of Jurgen Windcaller" note for the umpteenth time, & I return to Riverwood as requested. However, as soon as I enter Alvor & his wife lay into me, then the guards join in. If I fight my way as far as the inn, Delphine comes out & joins in the fun. If I try going to Whiterun instead, everything is fine until I enter the Bannered Mare, at which point Uthgerd attacks me. I have Lydia & General Caius with me & am running the "Ultimate Follower Overhaul" mod. However the same thing happens even when I de-activate the mod. Interesting that the guards don't attack until after the NPCs ... ... ... Anybody got any clues as to what might be going on? Thanks,There is a rare bug in vanilla Skyrim in Whiterun hold. If you kill anyone and kill all witnesses so the bounty never gets reported sometimes very rarely the game still thinks you have a bounty when you do not. This makes certain citizens that have certain guard like AI attack you (Elrindir, the people of Riverwood, everyone in Dragonsreach, and rarely random guards not inside Whiterun) and because you technically do not have a bounty you can not pay off anything to fix it. And because of this if you defend yourself you will get an assault bounty and then the guards will attack you as well.Now there are 2 ways to fix it. Either walk up to a guard that is non hostile and punch him to get a measly 40 gold bounty and pay it off. This fixes the bug. (can also work by getting an assault bounty by defending yourself from the glitched people)Or open the console and select any guard and type paycrimegold you will be teleported to Dragonsreach and have any stolen items taken as if you really payed for a crime. But no gold will have been removed since you were only paying off the phantom bounty the game forgot to properly clear from earlier. Hope this helps and sorry for that bug. I do not know what causes it. But I an assure you mods had nothing to do with it. I got it before in completely vanilla Skyrim before I even started using mods. It is a rare but annoying bug. thankfully most characters do not ever get it. Edited November 5, 2012 by The7Sins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beoroth Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 So, scratching around on the Web, it appears that the issue of NPC attacks is a bug in 1.8 - as is the severe stuttering & FPS drop in first person view. Plus, quite possibly, why I've started getting random CTDs again. Solution? Start another game ... ... ... :wallbash: So, I've just retrieved the "Horn of Jurgen Windcaller" note for the umpteenth time, & I return to Riverwood as requested. However, as soon as I enter Alvor & his wife lay into me, then the guards join in. If I fight my way as far as the inn, Delphine comes out & joins in the fun. If I try going to Whiterun instead, everything is fine until I enter the Bannered Mare, at which point Uthgerd attacks me. I have Lydia & General Caius with me & am running the "Ultimate Follower Overhaul" mod. However the same thing happens even when I de-activate the mod. Interesting that the guards don't attack until after the NPCs ... ... ... Anybody got any clues as to what might be going on? Thanks,There is a rare bug in vanilla Skyrim in Whiterun hold. If you kill anyone and kill all witnesses so the bounty never gets reported sometimes very rarely the game still thinks you have a bounty when you do not. This makes certain citizens that have certain guard like AI attack you (Elrindir, the people of Riverwood, everyone in Dragonsreach, and rarely random guards not inside Whiterun) and because you technically do not have a bounty you can not pay off anything to fix it. And because of this if you defend yourself you will get an assault bounty and then the guards will attack you as well.Now there are 2 ways to fix it. Either walk up to a guard that is non hostile and punch him to get a measly 40 gold bounty and pay it off. This fixes the bug. (can also work by getting an assault bounty by defending yourself from the glitched people)Or open the console and select any guard and type paycrimegold you will be teleported to Dragonsreach and have any stolen items taken as if you really payed for a crime. But no gold will have been removed since you were only paying off the phantom bounty the game forgot to properly clear from earlier. Hope this helps and sorry for that bug. I do not know what causes it. But I an assure you mods had nothing to do with it. I got it before in completely vanilla Skyrim before I even started using mods. It is a rare but annoying bug. thankfully most characters do not ever get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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