UwUSancho Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) So I just started modding Fallout New Vegas using Mod Organizer 2 and everything seems well but I'm having a problem. Every now and them there is a sudden drop in frames and I was wondering if it can be remedied with another mod or simply by deleting or switching the configurations of my installed mods. The frames are especially bad when I'm in VATS. I have another problem that could be remedied by starting a new game but i figure I should just ask anyways but after installing the mods, i've lost factions as if I never met them and the NCR keeps shooting at me. I've done nothing bad was accepted after killing fiend leaders. Installed Mods:- NVSE- FNV 4Gb Patcher- Fallout New Vegas Stability Enhancer and Stutter Remover for Windows 10- New Vegas Tick Fix- Fallout New Vegas ArchiveInvalidation Invalidated (Activated) - Ghost Variants- AE - 86 Seiryuu Beam Katana- NVAC- NVTF- JIP LN NVSE Plugin- Unofficial Patch Plus- NMCs Texture Pack- Poco Bueno Texture Pack w/ Skeleton Transparency- Yukichigai Unofficial Patch- Textures Over Time- Superpele's Texture Pack- Beauty Pack Plus- T6M Equipment Replacer NV- Dimonized type 3 Female Body- Type 6 Modification- Beware of Girl Type 3 HiRez HiDetailed Replacer- Mojave Delight- Weapon Retexture Project Edited January 10, 2020 by UwUSancho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 A "drop in framerate" will always happen in various circumstances. How low it drops to, and how large a percentage that is from what it normally runs are what are important. Some specific numbers will help us determine if it is something your should worry about. Re: Stuttering or "micro-stutters". All visual stuttering problems are caused by the video stream having to wait for the "art assets" required to render the display OR the game writing something to disk (such as a save game file or logging). Mostly these are due to the hard disk drive being orders of magnitude slower than VRAM, with System RAM (e.g. "ENBoost") and "solid state drives" (SSDs) being in between. Keep in mind that this game was designed for older PC and XBox console systems, and it is now possible for your new "latest and greatest" gaming machine to be faster than it can handle. There are internal design choices that cannot be overcome. The "video pipeline" has always been prone to problems. The following are "mitigations" that have been found to help some people.Please see the following entries under the 'Solutions to Performance problems' section in the wiki Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide if you haven't already.* 'Issue: "Full screen mode" exhibits CTDs and stutters or micro-stutters'* 'Issue: Lag or "micro stutters" even with "New Vegas Stutter Remover" installed'* 'Issue: Win10 Screen tearing in "Borderless Windowed Mode"'* 'Issue: CTD without warning, "Out of Memory error", or stops responding after the Main Menu' for other settings that can indirectly affect micro-stutter.* There are also some NVSR configuration suggestions under the 'Issue: Game in slow motion' and entries. (These will not help with the "Tick Fix" alternative mod, but the author of NVSR now has a suggested configuration for Win10 linked there.)* The 'Issue: What's with these Solid Green billboard signs in the distance (LOD)?' entry under the 'Solutions to Mesh (Red "!" icon) or Texture (solid color) problems' section can also help if your problems started after you installed VWD/LOD texture packages.* If you are using CASM or some similar "auto-save" mod to manage your save game files (recommended), try increasing the "time between saves" set in the "save frequency"; and reducing the number of occasions it saves to the minimum (e.g. disable most "Autosave Events" in CASM) and see how that impacts the game seeming to freeze temporarily.* If you have "NVSE logging" enabled (see the 'Checklist Item #4' entry in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide), disable it until actually needed.Reading from or writing to disk for any reason is the slowest thing the game does.The size of your image files also has an impact. Larger/higher resolution is not always "better". Please see the wiki "Display resolution versus Image Size" article.The 'Issue: What INI edits seem to be most beneficial to performance' entry of the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide) may also be some help. However, the above mitigations are more likely to have a fundamental beneficial effect with or without any INI adjustments, so consider them as the last resort.As you can see, there are a number of things that can underlie your problem. If one of these doesn't fix it, I would be interested to hear about any eventual solution that does.The following entries in the wiki 'Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting' guide specifically address known Win10 problems:* 'Issue: NVSE - fails to load after update KB4058043 to Win10 FCU (v1709)'* 'Issue: Incomplete save game load' (NVSR related)* 'Issue: Vanilla game Hangs on startup'; specifically "Cause-1" regarding DirectX9 drivers.* 'Issue: "Full screen mode" exhibits CTDs and stutters or micro-stutters'* 'Issue: Recent (post-Win10 FCU) CTDs after 10-20 minutes of play' (NVSR related)* 'Issue: Lag or "micro stutters" even with "New Vegas Stutter Remover" installed (or not)'. In particular "Cause-4" regarding video card settings. The latest video drivers may not be the best suited to an older game like FNV. All vendors drop testing of old games at some point. Backwards compatibility is never guaranteed, much less "optimization". Also, "Cause-7" regarding "Superfetch" and "File search indexing". Windows updates will often reset these back on.* 'Issue: Win10 Screen tearing in "Borderless Windowed Mode"'* 'Issue: ENB Support for Windows versions later than Win7'* 'Issue: Problems using ENB/SweetFx on Windows 10' We REALLY need to see a "load order" as produced by "LOOT"; to include the main game and DLC files. (Screenshots don't work so well for the purpose.) With modded games its the sequence, not merely the list of mods, which is the cause of many problems. LOOT's sort gives a good first approximation, correcting the most obvious issues and is sufficient for most players. You can make minor adjustments to the order and tell LOOT how to remember them. It's in the on-line documentation under "Metadata". Instructions on how to copy it's list for posting are in the "How to ask for help" article, and "Checklist Item #11' entry in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide.Please see the 'Vanilla Load Order' entry in the 'First Timer Advice' section; and the 'Common Game Problems' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article. If the problem persists, then see either the 'Solutions to Starting the game problems' or the 'Solutions to "Crash To Desktop" (CTD) problems' sections in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide.I recommend anyone read the entire "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article to understand the differences between this game and others you may have experience with; especially if this is your first attempt to play a modded FNV or it's been more than a year since you last did so. It is designed for someone who has never played a modded PC game before, so it tries to avoid making any assumptions.-Dubious- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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