GrimmC Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Alright folks, Hopefully this has not been covered already, but I looked and didn't see anything, so here goes: I, sadly, do not have the money to buy a computer capable of running Fallout 3. That means I'm stuck with the 360 version. So is there any way to get mods made for the PC version working on the 360? The main menu does have a downloads button, after all. I don't feel like waiting around for Bethesda release "official" content and I don't want to have to pay for it, either. Plus, I know it won't equal the creativity of the independent modding community. Presumably the game would have to be installed to the hard drive, right off the bat. No problem. I got room. Then there's the matter of getting the files into the directory structure and getting the game to recognize it. That I wouldn't know how to do. But the 360 is essentially a PC, and I'm sure there's some sort of file explorer program out there that can easily be installed. So that shouldn't be a problem. The potential issue left that I see is whether the game would install to a conventional structure, or if it would all be packed into some sort of bullshit XBox container format. This could be a problem. Then either the format would have to be expanded, or the files delivered in a similar format. MY experience here is nil. So, can it happen? I am willing to devote some time to make it work. Here's hoping someone says yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysus Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 next time plz use the search function... we have like 5 topics each day asking for xbox mods... ITS NOT POSSIBLE!!! (and people try since approx. 3yrs now) burn that crapbox and get a pc or somin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Short answer, No. Long answer. The file structures between the 360 and PC are totally different. Even if you could get a mod into the 360 it won't work. To get it to work, you will have to rewrite the operating system of the 360 first, then rewrite every mod to work on that new operating system. Then, the maker of the 360 doesn't want you to do that. If you modify anything in it, they will block you the next time you go on their site. (read their terms and conditions) They make their money selling you new games and not by allowing you to use free mods. My advice, start saving now for a good PC - don't get a cheap one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoogieMonster Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 In addition to BBen's very good answer... PC mods can not be used on the 360 because of format differences and file structure differences. Even with the 360 DevKit you would be hard-pressed to decipher all the proprietary formats that the 360 uses in its games. If someone was able to figure it out, the problem would still remain that there is no [publicly known] way to make the game access an unofficial source to make the mod function in-game. To throw yet more salt on the wound, if you read your EULA you will find that your 360 is checked at random intervals by a specialized version of Microsoft Genuine Advantage Validation Tool each time you connect to Live and also each time you update the firmware. One of the things that is checked for is DevKit activity, apparently it leaves a signature like a registry entry on a PC. If you are not authorized to have it (and I'm sure you are not) your Live account is deactivated and banned. And no, they will not refund your credit card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimmC Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Those who would bow to fascist policies deserve not mods. Having said that, apologies for beating a dead horse. I don't know where these millions of threads are at but I certainly didn't find them. Nonetheless it strikes me that a certain amount of lateral thinking would be able to defeat this problem. Is there a main thread discussing this somewhere? No need to bump this one around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicKaze Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Those who would bow to fascist policies deserve not mods. Having said that, apologies for beating a dead horse. I don't know where these millions of threads are at but I certainly didn't find them. Nonetheless it strikes me that a certain amount of lateral thinking would be able to defeat this problem. Is there a main thread discussing this somewhere? No need to bump this one around Dude people have been modding this basic game engine and all it's formats for years now (since Oblivion). Right now, we can't even do much in Fallout 3 without a construction set release by Bethseda. You will not find any demand or interest from anybody who would want to help you in this. You will never get it to run on an Xbox, the money, manpower, and "lateral thinking" spent doing so would be worth far, far more money than you just buying a $150 videocard for your computer so that you can play Fallout 3. You'd have to have an Xbox development kit ($10,000 is the going price for console Dev Kits), strong knowledge ofthe system technical details, knowledge of the source code, a way to decompile xbox container file formats, a modded or developer Xbox, the willingness to never go online with it again, and a computer powerful enough to run Fallout 3 to get all this working with user made mods :) For the price of an Xbox 360 Elite, I can easily build a computer that runs Fallout 3 and allows me to use mods. For the price of getting Fallout 3 mods to run on an Xbox 360, I could buy a car. The Xbox WAS essentially a PC, made with off-the-shelf PC components. The Xbox 360 is a very different beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimmC Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 But that IS the type of thing a community of people could accomplish at much less cost. Nonetheless I don't doubt that there would be no support for this if that is the case. Which is truly a shame for me and a lot of other people who lack either the funds, know-how, or willingness to deal with computers. I for one don't have the money even to buy the PC version of the game, let alone completely retrofit my comp. (And before you say something, yes, I am older than 16.) I didn't even have the money to buy the 360; it was given to me. I've got bills to pay. If nothing else, has the 360 savegame format been decoded, so I could port my character over to the PC, in case I stumble upon an oil well in my backyard or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facistinabag Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Someone in that community has fork out the 10k for the dev kit, and not get shut out by microsoft. Epic wanted to allow user made content on the x360 for unreal tournament 3, MS said no. Sony allowed it, but apparently it was epic fail, as is way to hard and limited to actually make a mod for it (i.e you had to by unreal 3 on PC in orderto make mods for the xbox version, the xbox version didn't come with the kit) As for the savegames, good luck. You'll need to actually get the xbox to transfer the saves for you, or you can use that shotty hardware Datel makes.Even then, you'd probabbly have to find away around the encyption that is most likely put on it. Even IF you got the Datel hardware, the dashboards have just been updated 2 days ago or so, most likely screwing up Datels hardware. I'd say, it would just be easier to get a new laptop or desktop... In the end. Get a PC for modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimmC Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 Right after I find that pot of gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyborgNinja Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Your just going to have to forget about the PC mods for this game dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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