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All these years and still no raw mouse input


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In The Witcher 3 there is a simple On/Off option in the game's control menu called 'Hardware Cursor', the simplicity and functionality of which makes Bethesda seem like rookie developers by comparison.

If enabled, it provides raw mouse input (based on your desktop's default DPI) in the games menus, making mouse movements an absolute, 100% responsive breeze and delight.

 

I am not asking for a mod that transforms the world, gives me a new special ability, moves mountains or adds a new variation of cheese to the food roster. All I'm asking for is normal mouse input in Skyrim's menus. Is that such a radical request?

 

And no, please don't tell me to disable vsync, iPresentInterval=0 etc etc. These options have been tried and tested by many, again and again over the years, and only end up reducing input lag, not eliminating it.

 

Why is getting raw mouse input in this game such an impossible slog and why/how have so many people been OK with it/endured it over the years? Am I missing something? I just don't get it. In a game where looting is an integral gameplay element which entails a very high amount of time spent in the menus, inventory etc, this surely has to be a priority; a quality of life improvement, even.

 

I am posting this query here, in the mod request forums because it seems this is no longer a technical issue that can be fixed by tweaking a few configs. Therefore if anyone could solve this problem and give me a 100% raw mouse input in Skyrim's menus, like the Hardware Cursor option in TW3, I and countless others would be considerably grateful.

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Part of the issue is that you're massively overestimating the number of people who are sensitive enough to these things that they would even notice or hugely care about just how incredibly bad it is.

The other part is probably that this would AFAIK require some sort of modification of the engine's input code (through injection like ENB does for DX11, I suppose) which very few people would be capable of.

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Part of the issue is that you're massively overestimating the number of people who are sensitive enough to these things that they would even notice or hugely care about just how incredibly bad it is.

 

"In a game where looting is an integral gameplay element which entails a very high amount of time spent in the menus, inventory etc, this surely has to be a priority"

 

I didn't think it possible to overestimate an issue this apparent in a game that requires interaction with the menus this often. My guess is that too many people are putting up with crappy, floaty, hellish mouse input in Skyrim menus simply because don't actually know what they're missing. It could be heaven, they just don't know it.

 

Alternatively, I've just been spoiled by Valve games and TW3, or Bethesda never really gave a $$$$ about PC gaming.

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TBH, while the big fat pointer seems a little silly to me, I have few problems with mouse behavior in game.

 

Personally, I'm far more concerned that using the scroll wheel results in not only scroll behavior in game, but also outside the game on my second desktop...simultaneously. I can't imagine that i"m the only person with this issue either.

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TBH, while the big fat pointer seems a little silly to me, I have few problems with mouse behavior in game.

 

Personally, I'm far more concerned that using the scroll wheel results in not only scroll behavior in game, but also outside the game on my second desktop...simultaneously. I can't imagine that i"m the only person with this issue either.

 

I hear you. Yeah, sounds like yet another annoying PC bug that Bethesda (who are ultimately to blame fo the lack of PC optimisation) overlooked. I haven't personally heard of the problem before, but when you say 'second desktop', I assume you mean second monitor?

 

Also, concerning the 'big fat pointer' issue you mention, which I agree is silly, you are aware of this essential mod, right? Doesn't solve anything to do with the input lag, but does look less clumsy and more aesthetically pleasing in menus, in my opinion.

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