Nude mod

[OniB]

nudity, realism - same, i am naked under my clothes. when i jump in the shower i am not issued with a default pair of boxershorts.

 

and im pretty sure that most of the tribals from fallout2 were naked wearing loincloths, ever read a national geographic.

 

what would they shave with? what do the guys in the game shave their faces with? combat knives and longswords? ever heard of a razor blade? they are easy to make, or if that is to advanced for you, a sharp piece of flint. or maybe they use laser hair removal?

 

im damn sure that the slaver boss or dukov would not be into the whole hairy girl scene

 

but i digress,

this seems to be you trying to push your values on people who have their own values

each to their own, and if you don't like it, don't comment

 

i look forward to any good quality nude mods

thats all i have to say on the subject

[ironsightsffs]

but i digress,

this seems to be you trying to push your values on people who have their own values

each to their own, and if you don't like it, don't comment

 

:wallbash: I think that's what we said to the UN when they were questioning us about Gitmo.

 

I'm not foolish enough to think I will actually prevent any of these mods from getting made, but I think there is a great discussion here about how we as gamers want to be perceived, the reasons and utility behind the idea for a nude mod, discussions about what is or is not tasteful, etc. By all means, anyone who has the time and skill and is willing to put in the work on a mod, go ahead and make it. But can we still have a discussion?

 

There are places in FO3 where nudity would be appropriate- whores probably do not waste time with underwear. But most normal people would wear underwear. What about just making the underwear in the game an item of clothing, like everything else, that can be removed if you are so inclined?

 

Games are becoming more and more real-looking. Humans have something like 70% of our nerves in our optical cortex, and what we see does effect our brain chemistry to some degree. Having played many an FPS, I notice that I take in and process visual information much quicker than people who don't game. I'm sure that gaming has had some impact on my reward centers as well. The last thing I would want is to reinforce physical violence by attaching it to sexual stimulation, this just doesn't seem at all wise. Now, to each his own and all that, but I think this is something worth serious consideration.

 

Let's take a theoretical, let's say you just slaughtered a room full of raiders, causing several dismemberments and then go loot the bodies. In the course of this, you come across a female missing an arm and a head, who is now naked. Then let's say you get an erection. How would you feel? How would that get processed in your mind?

 

There, I think I did a good job of not "pushing my values" on anyone.

[ElricVonRabenfels]

*Clap clap*

 

Well said.

[CFriis87]

nudity, realism - same, i am naked under my clothes. when i jump in the shower i am not issued with a default pair of boxershorts.

 

and im pretty sure that most of the tribals from fallout2 were naked wearing loincloths, ever read a national geographic.

 

what would they shave with? what do the guys in the game shave their faces with? combat knives and longswords? ever heard of a razor blade? they are easy to make, or if that is to advanced for you, a sharp piece of flint. or maybe they use laser hair removal?

 

im damn sure that the slaver boss or dukov would not be into the whole hairy girl scene

 

but i digress,

this seems to be you trying to push your values on people who have their own values

each to their own, and if you don't like it, don't comment

 

i look forward to any good quality nude mods

thats all i have to say on the subject

Is it just me or are you forgetting that the Fallout 3 world got stuck in the 1950's? At that time there only was the "hairy girl scene". I'm not even saying that Dukov or the slaver boss had any choice in the matter. That's just how it was back then.

Sure, a few men in the Fallout world could realistically be in possesion of razors that they could keep sharp enough to avoid peeling the skin off heir faces, but if you think making every single PC and NPC in this game look like a modern time porn-star is the same as adding realism, then I think I'm not taking any risks of being wrong when saying you're a moron.

[Sephlyn]

I think the Sheer amount of Nude mods are Tasteless (This is happening because Fallout went fricken 3d I know it ><) Anyway? You DO wear clothing under heavy armor at least because you know what people wore clothes under chainmail, you know why? because it clips pinches and causes very uncomfortable chafing and friction.

 

For lighter raider armor (Beside the point to why I don't even know why your raiding crap armor like that) Why would it suddenly "ruin" your immersion to have someone do something illogical in a video game? I love how I shoot someone in the forehead and their never severs oh no do we need to fix that too? (Or perks like bloody mess should we just remove them?)

[KaeEbonrai]

hokay.. really.. this is getting ridiculous.

 

1) Fallout has been downright /sleazy/ since Fallout 1.

 

2) It makes plenty of sense for characters to be nude.

 

3) If someone makes a nude mod, they can make it however they damn well please, for whatever reason they damn well please.

 

4) If the current state of nude mods is one way, that does not mean that everyone who uses said mods uses them for the same reason.

 

5) If, as yet, there are no nude mods for males, and ghouls... this does not mean there will never be said mods. This means, however, that no one, as yet, has done it, and, to be honest, they don't have to do it, because some idiot believes that "omg, you're a pervert."

 

6) Using a nude mod, does not mean you do it for the purposes of being a pervert. I am known for a specific oblivion character. A rather unique one at the time, known as Avalon. I crafted her as a unique race, to make her looks exactly how I envisioned for my character. She had nude textures. But, not even once, did I randomly take off her clothes, to oogle her. Infact, she was /never/ naked. However, she did have everything textured and modelled, it was all there, simply because, that was the way it is in nature, that, dear sirs, is natural. That is the way Mother Nature, God, whatever you want to say, made the human race. We are /all/ naked under our clothing. And anyone who says any different is a damn fool.

 

Avalon: http://ebonrai.com/oblivion/avalon/Avalon_...02-02-07-90.jpg

 

I plan to attempt to remake avalon for Fallout, to see my dear character in another setting. The fun thing is, there were two of us that used that character, and, to be honest, we thought of her more as a daughter. Funny, that, considering if you were right, I'd be thinking of her as an object, because I'd used a nude mod to create her...

[fourtylashes]

I'm not foolish enough to think I will actually prevent any of these mods from getting made,but I think there is a great discussion here about how we as gamers want to be perceived,

 

Then why are you bothering? Don't you have a blog you can rant on?

 

What defines "gamer"? Don't use plural – I don't care how I'm 'perceived'. And who's perceiving us? You? The media? Hillary Clinton? The Pope?

 

the reasons and utility behind the idea for a nude mod, discussions about what is or is not tasteful, etc. By all means, anyone who has the time and skill and is willing to put in the work on a mod, go ahead and make it. But can we still have a discussion?

 

Yes we can discuss it, but your comments are not only inane, but irrelevant. "LOL GO WATCH PORN GUYS LOLLOL". Go re-read them. Sure, you're backing them up now, but you just sound like an ass.

 

There are places in FO3 where nudity would be appropriate- whores probably do not waste time with underwear. But most normal people would wear underwear.

 

There are many reasons to wear underwear other than to preserve our "dignity" or sense of "wholeness" and "chastity". They serve a functional purpose, but can also be a hindrance in surviving in the wilds. I mean, if you've only got a few pairs, they're going to get dirty awfully quickly, and then... well, I wouldn't want to wear irridiated underwear (especially if I were a girl worrying about yeast infections lol).

 

What about just making the underwear in the game an item of clothing, like everything else, that can be removed if you are so inclined?

 

Because that would serve little purpose. I don't even see the point in doing that. If you kill a raider, you'll hit 'grab all loot' and she'll be naked just as though you'd had a normal nude mod on. If you want to make a mod like that, go ahead, but I don't see any benefit in it.

 

Games are becoming more and more real-looking. Humans have something like 70% of our nerves in our optical cortex, and what we see does effect our brain chemistry to some degree.

 

Yeah, and playing a video game or not won't change that. Look at how women are in society today? We'll seem em' naked, abused, and turned into objects wether we make a fallout nude mod or not. I don't see your point.

 

I'm also not ruled by my hormones or 'brain chemistry' so much any more as any other human. It's not going to suddenly turn me into an evil mad man by having a fallout nude mod.

 

Having played many an FPS, I notice that I take in and process visual information much quicker than people who don't game. I'm sure that gaming has had some impact on my reward centers as well. The last thing I would want is to reinforce physical violence by attaching it to sexual stimulation, this just doesn't seem at all wise.

 

There are many things that seem unwise, but whether they are or not is another problem altogether.

 

Again, these 'reward centers' you're speaking of will be influenced by other things wether we have fallout nude mods or not. If you're so concerned about your morality being corrupted, why are you playing a game from a series that is known for its morally ambiguous atmosphere.

 

Now, to each his own and all that, but I think this is something worth serious consideration.

 

I don't see how.

 

The Fallout universe gives society a serious consideration. Through the descriptions of post-apocalyptic society, Fallout (at least 1 & 2) attempts to show us what real human nature is, when the petty values and traditions handed down to us are cast aside and the world is created anew. Nudity in these worlds is not only canon, but it's just another important facet of this society. I imagine few people wear underwear, not only because it's rare, but difficult to keep clean. If there is any underwear at all, it's also likely hand-made from scraps of cloth. I seriously doubt women go through the trouble of trying on 200 year old bras and finding the right size.

 

Let's take a theoretical, let's say you just slaughtered a room full of raiders, causing several dismemberments and then go loot the bodies. In the course of this, you come across a female missing an arm and a head, who is now naked. Then let's

say you get an erection.

 

I personally wouldn't get an erection. Dead bodies don't turn me on and I'm not into guro. If it turns you on, maybe some introspection is in order? Or maybe it doesn't even matter? Maybe you're moral enough you won't go around looking for corpses in real life? Your point is ridiculous.

 

How would you feel? How would that get processed in your mind?

 

Your freudian approach to psychology seems a little dated. There are a number of theories on emotion-response-cognition, none of which prove conclusively that by seeing corpses of naked women and getting an erection, I will suddenly associate killing women with 'good'. Such an assumption is ridiculous, absurd.

 

There, I think I did a good job of not "pushing my values" on anyone.

 

No, you come across as someone insecure in their own morality. Just give it a rest, it sounds like you shouldn't be playing video games. Especially M rated ones.

[SpacemanSpIiff]

You guys do know that no matter what anyone says or thinks, Authors will upload plenty of nude mods and *other* mods that "support" them, right?

 

Really the only solution is if you don't like it is turn on your adult content filter, or if you want to leave that off, Then just shake your head and move on to the next mod in the list.

[gandalftw]

Let's take a theoretical, let's say you just slaughtered a room full of raiders, causing several dismemberments and then go loot the bodies. In the course of this, you come across a female missing an arm and a head, who is now naked. Then let's

say you get an erection.

How does slaughtering,dismembering and looting bodies get processed?Getting an erection looking at a nude dismembered body is a problem inherent to that individual not the nude mod.

The last thing I would want is to reinforce physical violence by attaching it to sexual stimulation, this just doesn't seem at all wise.

That would make sense if one were a prepubiscent.A mature adult with a healthy sexuality is not is not likely to attach violence to sexual stimulation.If,because of faulty development, one does have such an attachment then it would be wise for that individual to seek counseling if that attachment is causing,either mental or physical,harm to themselves or others.

Games are becoming more and more real-looking. Humans have something like 70% of our nerves in our optical cortex, and what we see does effect our brain chemistry to some degree.

Only if what we see causes an emotional response.

[myrmaad]

I'm pretty sure I won't be getting any erections over the nude mods.

 

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c117/SeaBlossom/sc86.jpg

 

That's the only pic I have handy of me frowning.