Almost giving up

[lopedogg]

Hello I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I have been running a fairly solid modded FONV for the last 2-3 years. But i decided I should add a bit more content and something went off the rails. Anyway basically I get to the opening menu but the menu does not show up. I think where I went wrong is i tried to update Unofficial Patch Plus - Project Nevada Patch.esp which then required Project Navada - Extra Options (which i didn't have) so then i got it but still no luck. To make matters worse when making a bashed patch i accidentally unchecked my mod list so im not sure i have the same esp's and esms checked. I have run everything through LOOT as per below list, and made the bashed patch even though im not sure i need it . Nothing shows any serious errors but i still get the same screen so something is off. Just not sure where to go from here short of starting from scratch. I have 2 150+hr characters i would rather not loose. The only other mods I added at the same time were TheInheritance.esp

& NewVegasBountiesIII.esp. Any help would be very appreciated.

 

 

0 0 FalloutNV.esm

1 1 DeadMoney.esm

2 2 HonestHearts.esm

3 3 OldWorldBlues.esm

4 4 LonesomeRoad.esm

5 5 GunRunnersArsenal.esm

6 6 ClassicPack.esm

7 7 MercenaryPack.esm

8 8 TribalPack.esm

9 9 CaravanPack.esm

10 a YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

11 b SomeguySeries.esm

12 c Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

13 d ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

14 e NVInteriors_Core.esm

15 f NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

16 10 AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

17 11 Momod.esm

18 12 factions reloaded raiders v2.esp

19 13 ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm

20 14 NVR-Strip.esm

21 15 AWOPDeadMoney.esm

22 16 NVInt_ARoomWithAView.esm

23 17 Project Nevada - Core.esm

24 18 Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

25 19 Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

26 1a Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

27 1b NevadaSkies.esm

28 1c Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm

29 1d D.E.I.M.O.S..esm

30 1e Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

31 1f YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

32 20 The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

33 21 NVR-Version_10.esp

34 22 Vurt's WFO.esp

35 23 New Vegas Landscape Overhaul.esp

36 24 Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

37 25 Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

38 26 CNR_Beta.esp

39 27 dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

40 28 EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

41 29 Unofficial Patch Plus.esp

42 2a AWOPDeadMoneyVendorPatch.esp

43 2b Laurens_Bathroom_poetry.esp

44 2c NewVegasBounties.esp

45 2d NewVegasBountiesII.esp

46 2e NCR Rearmament v1.5 (Lore).esp

47 2f TheInheritance.esp

48 30 NewVegasBountiesIII.esp

49 31 mojave music radio expanded v1.1.esp

50 32 ILO - YUP Patch.esp

51 33 AWOP - EVE AllDLC.esp

52 34 Project Nevada - EVE All DLC.esp

53 35 AWOP-MoMod.esp

54 36 DustydistanceNV.esp

55 37 ILO - Nevada Skies Patch.esp

56 38 FlashlightNVSE.esp

57 39 NVInteriors_Rewritten.esp

58 3a DarkBlue.esp

59 3b Project Nevada - Rebalance Uncapped Max Level.esp

60 3c NVR-NPCs.esp

61 3d tmzLODadditions-NVInterriors.esp

62 3e ScrollOfTruthTreasureHunt.esp

63 3f Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

64 40 Unofficial Patch Plus - Project Nevada Patch.esp

65 41 Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

66 42 ILO - A World of Pain.esp

67 43 ILO - New Vegas Bounties.esp

68 44 ILO - NVInteriors Project.esp

69 45 FNVLODGen.esp

70 46 tmzLODadditions.esp

71 47 NevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.esp

72 48 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[dubiousintent]

When you can't get to the main menu, it's usually because you have a "Missing Masters" problem. This can be caused by a problem with the sort of your "load order" as well. See also the "Issue - Recommended Project Nevada master file load order" entry in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" article.

 

In general please see the 'Solutions to Starting the game problems' or the 'Solutions to "Crash To Desktop" (CTD) problems' sections in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide.

 

-Dubious-

[lopedogg]

Thanks for the reply, I have been going through these steps as I am able. I have it where all my check marks are green so i don't think there are any missing masters but still get to the same screen. There are a lot of varies conflicts in xedit but I dont know how to decide which ones actually need editing. Anyway it seems to load faster now like it wants to go but something is still tripping me up. I will keep going through the guides to see if I can pin it down.

[dubiousintent]

With established mods it is not usually needed to make any edits in FNVEdit. Unless you are talking about creating a "merged patch" file to reconcile record level conflicts between plugins. In which case I recommend you use the "Bashed Patch" from Wrye Flash until you understand exactly how to create one manually. Otherwise, you need to explain what you are doing at what step more clearly for us to be able to provide more help.

 

There is one other possibility, which you did not mention. If you have added any mods that change XML files (which can cause "HUD-UI-Menu issues") they might be preventing the main menu. However, that is not usually the menu affected by them and you indicated things were fine before adding Project Nevada and the UPP patch for it. I would work through the other solutions first.

 

-Dubious-

[lopedogg]

Hi thanks again.

I have been going through these trying to find what might apply. I was running PNV before without issues, my thought is i screwed something up when i updated UPP - PNVP which then required me to update PNV, more specifically to add the extra options which i didn't have before. I also updated JIP LN NVSE plugin as well and a few other files as i have found old versions. I think i didn't update something correctly. As to where I am I have reorganized the mods a couple of ways, first according to LOOT then according to the recommended PN list and now back to loot. only updating the master sort in xedit to get all green checks. The mods listed in the hud-ui look correct id dont really have many of those mods besides PNV and MCM, i did add that MCM bug fix. I regenerated my LOD under the new sort, I have tried to run both with a bashed patch and without. I have tried the PNxEO MCM scriptfix. I have left my ENB on and have not changed any .ini settings.

 

Im running Win7 with a R7 250x Vid card and all files are on SSD. It ran very smooth before. My FONV is the GOG ultimate edition.

 

Here is my current sort list including inactive mods.

0 0 FalloutNV.esm

1 1 DeadMoney.esm

2 2 HonestHearts.esm

3 3 OldWorldBlues.esm

4 4 LonesomeRoad.esm

5 5 GunRunnersArsenal.esm

6 6 ClassicPack.esm

7 7 MercenaryPack.esm

8 8 TribalPack.esm

9 9 CaravanPack.esm

10 a YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

11 b SomeguySeries.esm

12 c Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

13 d ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

14 e NVInteriors_Core.esm

15 f NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

16 10 AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

17 11 Momod.esm

18 12 factions reloaded raiders v2.esp

19 13 ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm

20 14 NVR-Strip.esm

21 15 AWOPDeadMoney.esm

22 16 NVInt_ARoomWithAView.esm

23 17 Project Nevada - Core.esm

24 18 Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

25 19 Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

26 1a Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

27 1b NevadaSkies.esm

28 1c Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm

29 1d D.E.I.M.O.S..esm

30 1e Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

31 1f YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

32 20 NVR-Version_10.esp

33 21 Vurt's WFO.esp

34 22 New Vegas Landscape Overhaul.esp

35 23 Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

36 24 Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

37 25 CNR_Beta.esp

38 26 dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

39 27 Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp

40 28 The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

41 29 EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

42 2a Unofficial Patch Plus.esp

43 2b AWOPDeadMoneyVendorPatch.esp

44 2c Laurens_Bathroom_poetry.esp

MMUE-CP-ILO.esp

45 2d NewVegasBounties.esp

46 2e NewVegasBountiesII.esp

47 2f NCR Rearmament v1.5 (Lore).esp

48 30 TheInheritance.esp

49 31 NewVegasBountiesIII.esp

test.esp

50 32 mojave music radio expanded v1.1.esp

51 33 ILO - YUP Patch.esp

52 34 AWOP-MoMod.esp

53 35 DustydistanceNV.esp

54 36 ILO - Nevada Skies Patch.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

55 37 DarkBlue.esp

56 38 NVInteriors_Rewritten.esp

LightBlue.esp

notblu.esp

57 39 NVR-NPCs.esp

58 3a tmzLODadditions-NVInterriors.esp

59 3b Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp

60 3c Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp

61 3d Project Nevada - Old World Blues.esp

62 3e Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp

63 3f AWOP - EVE AllDLC.esp

64 40 Project Nevada - EVE All DLC.esp

AWOP-EVE Patch.esp

65 41 Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

PNxEO MCMScriptFixes.esp

66 42 Project Nevada - Rebalance Uncapped Max Level.esp

67 43 Unofficial Patch Plus - Project Nevada Patch.esp

68 44 Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

69 45 ILO - New Vegas Bounties.esp

70 46 ILO - NVInteriors Project.esp

71 47 ILO - A World of Pain.esp

72 48 FNVLODGen.esp

73 49 tmzLODadditions.esp

NevadaSkies - TTW Edition.esp

74 4a NevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.esp

NevadaSkies - Basic Edition.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Edited February 13, 2020 by lopedogg

[dubiousintent]

You see the plugins in your "load order" that don't have a number in front of them? They are "inactive", but still present in the "Data" folder and get loaded by the game engine and will cause "Missing Master" errors in addition to counting against the "plugin cap". You have to move them out of the "Data" folder. This is listed in the "Common Problems" section of the wiki "General Mod Use Advice" article. You should check that out as well.

 

I don't understand what you mean when you say "updating the master sort in xedit to get all green checks." xEdit loads files as it finds them in the "Data" folder by date (which is how FNV manages it's "load order"). It does not order them itself. LOOT actually sorts mods into a load order by changing their date. That is it's primary role. xEdit reacts to and uses that resulting load order.

 

xEdit looks for "record level" conflicts (among other things) as a result of the current load order. It does not change files, but instead is used to create "patch" files (similar to the "Based Patch") which load later with your desired record conflict "winners". Please see "xEdit Conflict Detection and Resolution" in the "Tome of xEdit" online documentation.

 

Suspect you are confusing LOOT and xEdit in your posts. Clear communication is important to avoid confusion and misleading advice.

 

-Dubious-

[lopedogg]

I have gone through the General Mod Use Advice and the HUD-UI-Menu issues as much as i can understand. Thanks for pointing out the inactive mods i had misread that part. I have not temped to go very far into xedit, what i meant to say was I only used xedits sort masters function (primarily with Project Nevada) to get all green check boxes in Wyre Flash. I really just use LOOT as a rough guide (since they were previously sorted) and to copy my mod list. I have since removed all my inactive mods completely. Wyre Flash shows nothing but green check marks for which I created a bashed patch, I have checked the XML files according to the UI guide and they seem correct. I have gone through the checklist and nothing seems to change it the menu never comes up. The only thing I haven't done that i can see is gone deep into the xedit for conflict resolution, although I still suspect it is a project navada issue. Unfortunately I don't get a lot of time to put into my games, but FONV is by far my favorite, I might just start with a clean install as I think it would be faster for me then to try and figure out xedit and other potentially trickier aspects of modding.

[dubiousintent]

Sometimes starting over is the fastest solution. I advise that you test after installing each mod, so you immediately know the cause of any problems. Trying to re-install all of the mods you currently have now could lead you to the same problem and none the wiser.

 

-Dubious-