sukeban Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Not sure why this never occurred to me earlier, but WHY is there an East Empire Company facility in Windhelm? I mean, pre-Stormcloak rebellion it makes a good amount of sense--to serve as the western port for the Company in Skyrim, with direct passage both to Solstheim and to Vvardenfell--but since the rebellion has started... why is it allowed to operate unfettered? I know that it is not technically a branch of the Empire (not a government agency or whatnot), but it was chartered directly by the Empire and is run by Imperial cronies, presumably even during the events of Skyrim. So what would Ulfric's motives be for allowing the Company to operate right under his nose (maybe he likes Flin!): is he a "business before principles" type of guy or is he simply stupid/oblivious? Furthermore, why would the Imperials allow an entity that they largely control continue to operate and provide goods to the enemy: are they opportunistic (potential spying opportunities) or also stupid/oblivious? Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiva Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Interesting thought, love this cind of things :laugh: My thoughts on this would be that it is run by a third party leaders, thats not living in Skyrim, that would be my logic conclusion if i saw this, but why oh why go so simple as that! :biggrin: Could be an eleborate atempt from both sides to control and spy on each other, perahps even some of the leaders of it, (if there are more then one) are corrupt and works for the benefith of Windhelm to let everyone see the business opportinuties and greed takes over? :tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimeOtaku102 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I'd say developer oversight. Bethesda has a history of good ideas, but poor execution (especially in plot progression and writing). Given that people have discovered (by looking at leftovers in the game files that were never implemented) the civil war quests were supposed to be much more dynamic, and that taking Windhelm did not mean the automatic death of Ulfric/loss of the rebellion, it's likely the EEC was only meant to move in after the Imperials took control and fall to piracy soon afterward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 The East Empire Company is a lot like the West India Company. That is, they are a private entity which opperates largely based on the patronage of the Empire, but they are not controled by either the Emperor of the Elder Concil, but are a totally private enterprise controled by shareholders. As such, so long as they bring in the money and the trade, theres no reason they wouldn't be in Windhelm, so long as they give Ulfric his cut. Whether or not Bethesda actually thought all that through, or it's a design error on their part is still questionable, but the natrue of the East Empire Company is such that its being there doesn't actually break any continuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimeOtaku102 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) Assuming Ulfric is ignoring the EEC's imperial origin, it doesn't really explain why he (or the guards) would ignore a boat full of Imperial soldiers docking at Windhelm when Adelaisa Vendicci shows up to find out what's going on. Given the artillery they were carrying (either unrendered catapults or carrying battlemages), it makes even less sense that Ulfric would allow them anywhere near his docks and in sight of the (apparently) only bridge into Windhelm. They really should have just been dressed up as mercenaries rather than strut around the docks of the rebel capital in full Imperial gear. Edited November 28, 2012 by Anime_Otaku102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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