I tried EVERYTHING

[feetjemaryam]

CTD's. Again, and again, and again, and again.

Doesn't seem to be caused by GPU overload, or at least, Skyrim Performance Moniter shows 98% on the crash. It hits a 100% sometimes easily but it won't necessarily crash.

As for as I know I have all the appropriate patches for my mods installed. I did the anti-CTD ENBoost thing. I SSEdited it. I cleaned dirty files, turned down video settings, PC restart, turned off Vsync, generated FNIS..

I did more than this, I don't even remember anymore. Can somebody PLEASE for the love of God, help me with this?

 

After troubleshooting I'm speculating that it might be my load order. I feel like it's been crashing a lot more after I allowed LOOT to organize my list. I tried to kind of sort it out myself, but with no success.

I can't seem to pin-point whether it's certain mods causing this. I started out by turning off half my mods, and I didn't get CTD's anymore. I introduced bundles of 5 mods back to the list until the CTD's started again. But when I tried the 'problem bundle' each at a time, I couldn't figure it out anymore, it would keep crashing, even if I turned off the entire bundle again. I flipped the procedure, did this with the other half of my mods. Same thing happens. It doesn't seem to be one mod or another, rather some magical combination between all these mods.

 

It seems to happen at random somewhat. Sometimes happens when I coc somewhere. Player.placeatme Frost crashes it sometimes. Fast traveling does it sometimes. Simply dismounting a horse does it sometimes. Approaching a city could do it, or just randomly roaming around the map. It just finds a way to happen.

 

Tried to mod Skyrim SE last year, but the CTD's were worse. I ran on a full HDD back then. Now I got an SSD and it seems to be a lot more stable. But still, I managed to reach this point again.

My PC runs an Intel Core i7 CPU, Geforce GTX 980 GPU, and 16gb RAM.

I will post my load order and Mods in the thread shortly. I have to figure out how to do a spoiler thingy so it doesn't roll out the entire list.

[feetjemaryam]

Ehm yeah sorry, I don't know how to do the hidden message feature :confused:

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 RSkyrimChildren.esm

6 6 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

8 8 BSAssets.esm

9 9 3DNPC.esp

10 a BSHeartland.esm

254 FE 0 Pacifist Mini-Mods Collection.esl

11 b BS_DLC_patch.esp

12 c The_Elder_Songs.esp

13 d ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

14 e SkyUI_SE.esp

15 f dD - Enhanced Blood Main LITE.esp

16 10 Immersive Movement.esp

17 11 Immersive Farms.esp

18 12 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

19 13 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp

254 FE 1 BetterQuestObjectives.esp

20 14 RaceMenu.esp

21 15 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

22 16 iHUD.esp

23 17 RLO - Effects.esp

24 18 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

254 FE 2 3DNPC0.esp

25 19 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

26 1a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Darker.esp

27 1b Dark_Eden_Forests_FallEdition.esp

28 1c solstheim 3D Trees.esp

29 1d Cutting Room Floor.esp

30 1e Oblivion horses.esp

31 1f Book Covers Skyrim.esp

32 20 SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp

33 21 Coins of Tamriel SSE Edition.esp

34 22 RLO - Exteriors.esp

35 23 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

36 24 XPMSE.esp

37 25 sandboxcylinderheight.esp

38 26 Cathedral Dynamic Snow.esp

39 27 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp

40 28 FNIS.esp

41 29 NorthernGrass.esp

42 2a WondersofWeather.esp

43 2b UltimateDragons.esp

44 2c SparklesSE.esp

45 2d Skyrim Bridges.esp

254 FE 3 SEDR Ultimate Dragons Compatibility Patch.esp

46 2e JS Armored Circlets SE.esp

47 2f BetterDocks-MP-DLC-Compatible.esp

48 30 Bijin NPCs.esp

49 31 Skysan_Icicle.esp

50 32 Footprints.esp

51 33 imp_helm_legend.esp

52 34 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp

53 35 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp

54 36 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

55 37 mintylightningmod.esp

56 38 Customizable Camera.esp

57 39 True Hunter.esp

254 FE 4 True Hunter MCM.esp

58 3a skyBirds_SSE.esp

59 3b Populated Dungns Caves Ruins Legendary.esp

60 3c Morning Fogs SSE.esp

61 3d Skyrim Better Roads - All In One - Merged.esp

62 3e Run For Your Lives.esp

63 3f Cloaks.esp

64 40 fallentreebridgesSSE.esp

65 41 S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp

66 42 wavetest.esp

254 FE 5 RBB - Better Docks Patch.esp

67 43 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

68 44 HoldBorderBanners.esp

69 45 CrestysDistantMists.esp

254 FE 6 CrestysDistantMists_VanillaOrTrueStorms_Patch.esp

70 46 VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp

71 47 Bells of Skyrim.esp

72 48 Bells of Skyrim - Reduced Volume.esp

73 49 AskTheWay.esp

254 FE 7 The Elder Songs - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp

74 4a RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp

254 FE 8 BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp

254 FE 9 BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp

254 FE a BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp

254 FE b BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp

254 FE c BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

75 4b Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

76 4c Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

77 4d Animations.esp

78 4e ImperialSoldiersEscortFix.esp

79 4f lm_astronach.esp

80 50 Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp

81 51 RSChildren.esp

82 52 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

83 53 GoToBed.esp

84 54 DineWithFollowers.esp

85 55 PeopleAreStrangers.esp

86 56 Headtracking.esp

87 57 dynamic fires.esp

88 58 killstuff.esp

89 59 College students.esp

90 5a PersonalWeddingGuests.esp

91 5b Pouring Rain.esp

92 5c ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

93 5d ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L2.esp

94 5e imp_helm_USSEP.esp

95 5f RSC 3DNPC Patch.esp

96 60 RSC BoS Patch.esp

97 61 RSC CRF Patch.esp

98 62 RSC HAR TG Patch.esp

99 63 CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp

100 64 RS Children Rigmor Patch.esp

254 FE d VolumeticMists.esp

254 FE e VolumeticMistsSolstheim.esp

101 65 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

Immersive Citizens - TC patch.esp

Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp

102 66 Landscape For Grass Mods -Immersive Citizens PATCH.esp

103 67 Open Cities Skyrim.esp

104 68 Open Cities Skyrim - Holidays.esp

105 69 Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp

106 6a RLO - Interiors.esp

107 6b RLO - CRF Patch.esp

108 6c RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp

109 6d RLO - VIS Patch.esp

110 6e Bells of Skyrim - OCS+ICAIO Patch.esp

111 6f RLO - IC Patch.esp

112 70 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - ELFX Patch.esp

254 FE f RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

254 FE 10 RWT - People of Skyrim Patch.esp

[Cindygirl]

Your load order is like a train wreck. Move Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp after Dragonborn.esm. I see you have a ESL plugin make sure to move that after any ESM (Sometimes you will have plugins that is flagged as a ESL do the same). Bug fixes should always go up to the top after the ESL. Big mods and overhauls should be next, like 3DNPC.esp, SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp, Skyrim Better Roads - All In One - Merged.esp, Book Covers Skyrim.esp. Immersive Citizens, Next is Quest mods, If you have any installed, doesn't matter big or small still goes after the big mods. Always move XPMSE.esp to the very bottom in your load order. Any animation after that will try to overwrite it. (Well almost). Any mod that has the patches you installed needs to load after the mod it tries to patch, SSEedit will tell you the same thing. Weather Overhauls then Enviromental, grass mods water mods ect. After that is Mods that alter cities​, example JK skyrim. Mods that add expansions to that city Opencities can go there (Mostly crashes me lol) Look in the description of that mod carefully to avoid crashes with opencites is after that. Gameplay Changes, Combat magic overhaul ect ect. I personally put UI mods next Skyui , ihud. You could do the NPC Overhauls next, I mostly put mine where the big mods are located after bug fixes. Then any sound mod you have should go next and together example: Audio Overhaul. Next is Mods that edit NPC Inventory, Rich Merchants ect. Then CBBE OR UNP. Since you don't have bodlyslide it would say RacemenumorphsCBBE or RacemenumorphsUnnp, mostly want to load racemenu plugin there after that. Weapons amour and clothes mods is next. The rest of the load order should be specific mods that really need to load last, example: xpmse Alternate start, mods that remove game effects for performance.

[Guest deleted80903]

This CTD guide may help you: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/34268

 

I'm going to poke around in your load order for a bit to see if I can get some specific ideas.

 

OK, so Cindygirl has some good ideas; your load order is horrific, no offense! Do you use a load order sorting tool like LOOT? YOU SHOULD. A ton of CTD , freezes, and general instability issues can be linked to unsorted or improperly sorted load orders.

 

The second thing; I see FNIS in your load order. Whenever you install an animation mod that requires FNIS, you MUST run the FNIS For Users program tool in your Data\tools directory. All sorts of chaos will abound if you don't.

 

Try this stuff and see if it helps. These are the basics.

Edited April 2, 2020 by melvinius