Patch Problem

[Sephlyn]

I'm sorry if this has been covered but I did check. I bought Fallout 3 for the PC a bit after it was released

and when I attempt to Patch my game, everything seems to load up properly then it launches the game, but the patcher doesn't go away and never finishes.

 

BUT a windows system 32 cmd .exe pops up and the patch appears to freeze. (The Exe is blank) and my game is going fine But the patch never seems to install. The Patcher screen also seems to white out like its frozen.

Can anyone tell me what the hell is going on

 

The current patch's features I really don't need.

 

(My game only crashes a few times randomly, and when I Alt tab to desktop and had nothing to alt tab to)

 

But I fear actual patches in the future may do the same crap.

 

 

(If i close the windows cmd exe the patcher closes, game keeps going I assume cause they just launched it normally or something.)

[gandalftw]

I'm sorry if this has been covered but I did check. I bought Fallout 3 for the PC a bit after it was released

and when I attempt to Patch my game, everything seems to load up properly then it launches the game, but the patcher doesn't go away and never finishes.

 

BUT a windows system 32 cmd .exe pops up and the patch appears to freeze. (The Exe is blank) and my game is going fine But the patch never seems to install. The Patcher screen also seems to white out like its frozen.

Can anyone tell me what the hell is going on

 

The current patch's features I really don't need.

 

(My game only crashes a few times randomly, and when I Alt tab to desktop and had nothing to alt tab to)

 

But I fear actual patches in the future may do the same crap.

 

 

(If i close the windows cmd exe the patcher closes, game keeps going I assume cause they just launched it normally or something.)

Are you on a Vista comp?

[Sephlyn]

No XP media Edition ( I refuse to upgrade to Vista the Ram Glutton)

[gandalftw]

No XP media Edition ( I refuse to upgrade to Vista the Ram Glutton)

I know Vista is a big pain it dislikes any kind of changes to system files.I had to turn off user account control to edit my archiveinvalidation file just because i installed to program files.A lot of people are having problems with the patch,i'm going to wait for the next one.Check out this post.

 

 

# KCPTECH — November 7, 2008 @ 12:54 pm

 

I get the same error. It appears that even their Patches need some sort of testing before release too. I’ve tried the patch on the US version of the DVD as well as the updated exe from SecuROM. Get the same error on both. The patch does appear to modify some files in the Windows System folder through the Command BOX; however, it doesn’t do anything to the Game exe or anything in the directory.

 

I have found the primary issues causing the CTD and other crashes. I’ve sent 3 e-mails to Bethesda and no responses. My Computer Science Engineering department took a shot it. I purchased 320 copies and gave them the weekend to figure it out. Here are some of the results;

 

1.) Fallout 3 Installer installs an older version on C++ Visual 2005 that appears to affect the way the vidcard driver communicates with the game.

 

2.) Fallout 3 Installer installs a Beta release of DOTNETFX3.0 (.NET Framework 3.0). For users of .NET Framework 3.0 SP1 or even SP2 (Service Pack of the Framework not the OS), upon restarting their system (when changes take place), their game will be quite unstable.

Users of .NET 3.5 or Vista should have even more random crashes.

 

3.) Fallout 3 Installer installs a non Plug’n Play DRM device manager (not driver but a manager) that doesn’t like any 3rd party codecs (ie K-Lite, WinAMP, etc) and will usually see a CTD when a Hardware codec comes online. This usually occurs when interactive audio (client controlled speech) initializes (ie baby walking to daddy).

 

4. Fallout 3 Installer installs SecuROM Root kit as well as 8 hidden non Plug’n play virtual drivers. Owners with more than one Optical drive or a sata drive may encounter random drive access issues. Also, Imaging software or any software that may use its own ASPI drive (ie NERO, Roxio, Daemon, ISO, etc.) will have one of the 8 virtual drivers causing the system to do a random CTD. Reason why clients using a cracked EXE don’t experience the same volume of CTD as those who bought the game. However, the SecuROM root kits are still on the system and active. Once the SecuROM is also purged from the system, 60% of the crashes disappear. Unfortunately, they must remain on the system in order to play the game as they are part of the EULA.

 

5.) Fallout 3 also has its own built in MP3 codec coupled to its DRM to protect MP3’s on the DVD (in game). Unfortunately, the codec was never tested fully with hardware decoders like those of an X-FI. This can be varied by the lack of a hardware audio switch in the game options.

 

6.) Fallout 3 has 14 memory leaks that we found. Most are small, but there are a few that are quite large. Some areas of the map, the memory counter just spins at over 100 MB/sec. Most memory leaks are around 5 to 10 MB/sec.

 

7.) Fallout 3 video graphics buffer needs to be adjustable in the options and an automatic cache purger installed for cards over 512 MBs as well as linked buffers from SLI and crossfire cards. I’ve seen areas where names on the screen start to disappear and all you see are “Input Text Here” instead of V.A.T.S. or range or etc. The cache doesn’t get dumped on some maps. Most games dump their cache when a map reload occurs. This can be noticed when fast reloads occurs from map changes. Most users will just see their graphics card run out of memory (CTD and stuttering).

 

8.) Most games were fault free with a basic XP Pro SP2 reload, and only Critical updates and latest stock drivers. Installed the game and played it error free for nearly 4 days. Upon a system restart, lots of errors showed up. This means that Fallout 3 significantly changes the operating system. Far beyond reasonable accounts as all you can do with the system in not to play MP3’s, watch movies, make a CD or DVD, or play other games.

 

Hopefully, Bethesda will address the issues more than 100,000 people are having.

[Sephlyn]

But if it edits files through the command box thing why wouldn't it be doing it or does it need alot of time. Or can a setting of mine possibly blocking it? if anyone knows

[gandalftw]

It's possible that the patch file was corrupted did you try downloading another to patch with?

[Sephlyn]

Sorry it takes me so epically to ever respond yes I've tried several different sources and redownloads

[gandalftw]

I've been reading that the patch is causing problems instead of fixing them.Don't know how reliable the info is but i haven't patched mine yet and Fallout is running well on my comp.

[Uzibeatle]

Shrug.

I dunno what is going on with you guys having an issue with the patch. It must be something pretty esoteric.

 

No problems here with the patch at all and by and large I've not seen many posts with people who do have

an issue so this is something odd.

 

I hope it is sorted out for you all.

 

For what it is worth xp pro 32 bit system here and game running in user mode not admin.

core 2 duo 8500e, 8800 nvidia gtx.

sound is mobo based realtek (abit mobo)