ImNoGhoul Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hello once more fellow modders :)I've asked this before and had no reply (as seen in that little description) so I decided to post somewhere else.Basically what I'm asking is what do I use to make new weapons and (possibly)armour and also how to make it. I've been told to use Blender or 3ds Max. But which one? Also, what do I use to make the iron sights view? And how to import it into the game? So many questions but just put in what to use, how to use it and how much would it all cost. I would REAAALY appreciate a reply and some support along the way of making my first mod :D Thanks guiz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quacko Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 well i guess i'll be the douche that brings you the bad news.What you are asking is more or less to have people give you a 3-4 year education on an internet forum and to be realistic, that probably aint gonna happen.People go to school for several year to use pograms like 3ds max propperly, and even after that it is a constant ongoing learning process.and people that have all the knowledge of the program, to model, uv map and rig the models have a ton of problems exporting them correctly into the game.Besides that you will also need a program like photoshop or the likes to make the textures for your models, wich is a science in its own right. Well there you have it, this is probably the reason you havent gotten any replies until now, but with that said, it is not impossible to learn these things on your own, but it is not something that you learn over night, and it will most likelycost you a few baldspots along the way (and this is all before getting to export it for new vegas, wich will cost you even more of them),but where there is a will there is a way. but for the issue of programs, personally i use 3ds max and photoshop, but both are fairly expensive programs,but blender and gimp (as i take it) will be able to do the stuff you need aswell and if i recall correctly they are also free to use. and when you have your models and textures ready you will need to pull them through nifscope, with some further editing there before you set it all up in the GE.C.K. well i know it wasn't the best of news i could have given you, but it was the best i could do for you at this point, so i hope it helps a bit and that it didn't feel too much like a slap in the face :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImNoGhoul Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 well i guess i'll be the douche that brings you the bad news.What you are asking is more or less to have people give you a 3-4 year education on an internet forum and to be realistic, that probably aint gonna happen.People go to school for several year to use pograms like 3ds max propperly, and even after that it is a constant ongoing learning process.and people that have all the knowledge of the program, to model, uv map and rig the models have a ton of problems exporting them correctly into the game.Besides that you will also need a program like photoshop or the likes to make the textures for your models, wich is a science in its own right. Well there you have it, this is probably the reason you havent gotten any replies until now, but with that said, it is not impossible to learn these things on your own, but it is not something that you learn over night, and it will most likelycost you a few baldspots along the way (and this is all before getting to export it for new vegas, wich will cost you even more of them),but where there is a will there is a way. but for the issue of programs, personally i use 3ds max and photoshop, but both are fairly expensive programs,but blender and gimp (as i take it) will be able to do the stuff you need aswell and if i recall correctly they are also free to use. and when you have your models and textures ready you will need to pull them through nifscope, with some further editing there before you set it all up in the GE.C.K. well i know it wasn't the best of news i could have given you, but it was the best i could do for you at this point, so i hope it helps a bit and that it didn't feel too much like a slap in the face :PThanks for the help, sort of. I appreciate the reply though. I just didn't know how much skill was needed to make them. I'll try to have a look a look at Blender and gimp and see if i can get something to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quacko Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 yeah well, it wasn't to burst your bubble or anything, just being realistic about it, but as i said nothing is impossible if you want it bad enough, just dont expext to have a full suit of armor and fully functioning guns and stuff by the end of the week :)and take it from a guy who knows his way fairly well around both 3d and 2d modeling and painting and have been working tirelesly for longer than i care to admit, to get a mod finished that im working on at the moment. i didn't have any experience with the g.e.c.k. or nifscope before starting out on this. I did made a small weapons mod for morrowind though, about 5 years ago or such with the use of the creationkit provided back then, but nothing else like this until now,and let me put it like this, i hae had a b*** of a time trying to get stuff to work in the game (especialy armor).but if you are serious about starting out on all this, id recommend that you start out easy with a knife or something like that, just to get something to work before moing on to more complex items... but with that said, if you are still up for this task remember the main rule when doing this is not to have the coolest stuff ever to put into the game, but to have fun making it :)Trust me a bit down the road from now it can be hard to remember at times, when stuff just wont work and you start questioning your sanity since it worked just a momen ago and so on and so forth ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImNoGhoul Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 yeah well, it wasn't to burst your bubble or anything, just being realistic about it, but as i said nothing is impossible if you want it bad enough, just dont expext to have a full suit of armor and fully functioning guns and stuff by the end of the week :)and take it from a guy who knows his way fairly well around both 3d and 2d modeling and painting and have been working tirelesly for longer than i care to admit, to get a mod finished that im working on at the moment. i didn't have any experience with the g.e.c.k. or nifscope before starting out on this. I did made a small weapons mod for morrowind though, about 5 years ago or such with the use of the creationkit provided back then, but nothing else like this until now,and let me put it like this, i hae had a b*** of a time trying to get stuff to work in the game (especialy armor).but if you are serious about starting out on all this, id recommend that you start out easy with a knife or something like that, just to get something to work before moing on to more complex items... but with that said, if you are still up for this task remember the main rule when doing this is not to have the coolest stuff ever to put into the game, but to have fun making it :)Trust me a bit down the road from now it can be hard to remember at times, when stuff just wont work and you start questioning your sanity since it worked just a momen ago and so on and so forth ;)Well I'm working with the geck now and just working with a few little things like changing the properties of a gun or 2 and playing around with the maps, but I'm planning on easing into it. Any idea on where I can get a decent tutorial. I'm planning on starting ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quacko Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 well id say that this site has been invaluable for me when working in the geck, you have description of just about anything in the geck, what it is and what it does.http://geck.bethsoft.com/index.php/Main_Page and this site is a good place to check out your scripts.http://www.cipscis.com/fallout/utilities/validator.aspx and if you feel like creating interiors, then this one should be pretty helpful, although i haven't tried it out myelfyet.http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/581268-interior-location-creation-tutorial/ well there was a little to get you started, but if you nd more, then google has also been invaluable to me while creating my own mod Aces high that just got uploaded todayand besides that i know there is a bunch of youube video tutorials for just about anything :) I hope this helps you out a bit :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenia Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I made a complete tutorial on the process back in June. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL925958D31D8D30C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImNoGhoul Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 Thanks for the help guys. I'll be sure to put this to good use and get started ASAP :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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