pedantic Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 I didn't want to be the first to mention age groups (thanks Dez) but I believe Oblivion was made more attractive specifically to the younger player. According to Bethesda's official Site - they really 'do' read all of the rants, raves, and suggestions prior to releasing their games. As for Morrowind, I had another look. It's really quite awful in comparison, graphically, until Better Heads and Better Bodies is loaded. With both Tribunal and Bloodmoon installed, however, it is still a very enjoyable and playable game. Like Oblivion, if you don't like it, mod it! :thumbsup: I don't really understand the derogatory remarks squared at Oblivion. Oblivion is an entirely new game based, broadly, on what those who originally played Morrowind wanted from (and those that would like to play) Bethesda's next release. Anyway, as someone rightly pointed out here on the Nexus (using words to this effect) "Oblivion is just an Editor which happens to include a pretty good game". In future, instead of saying the game 'Sucks', why not mod (or post a request for) the things you obviously don't like. Anyway, at least I agree that your hind sight is good, IMHO you ought to have conducted a poll .. LOL. :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatherceana Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 WOW oblivion Sucks!! if morrowind had came out a few years later it would DOMINATE! omg the storyline, the quests the indepthness of the game is AMAZING Oblivion is so...so....plain, so lack luster its just lame... am I the only one who feels this way? is there some way we can petetion the next game to be more like morrowind? cause oblivion is Lame, just has better graphics.... Oh, you are not alone. I was severely disappointed also by the necessity of downloading a patch for my brand new Oblivion game, which had cost me 80€, before I could even play it!! The birth signs were screwed-up and the spells were mislabeled. That was my introduction to the game. I found tons of other bugs along the way. Those stupid arrows in the quests aren't even always indicating the correct place, but are really more for power-gamers anyhow. Yes, Morrowind is CHOICE!! I only wish that Bethesda had enough programming experience to make their games more role-player oriented. Even the limited 3 choice response of NWNI and II seems too complex. It is nice that people react to you differently depending upon your specialization, house affiliation, etc. Unfortunately, a lot of stuff was messed-up in the German version of Morrowind, too. It seems that who ever translates these games into German is simply not competent. The Telvanni stronghold, which worked fine in the English version, stays as a small mushroom with no visible doors in the German version which I have. Patches do not help, nor do using the strongest soul gems. What I wish is that someone had bothered fleshing-out the whole Ayleiden ruins thing in Oblivion. You find placards and whatnots in one near the imperial city, but you aren't allowed to explore aspects of the culture or downfall, etc. That would have added some depth to the game. The Morrowind is so worthwhile, that I paid to replace my original disc when it exploded in my drive. That's how I ended-up with a German version. Unfortunately, every version I've gotten since the original has a horrible lag, a higher chance of falling through things, and a very high crash-rate when you run and jump at the same time. Yes, I have patched the Bloodmoon that came with them. Don't hold your breath on the next game being any better. Bethesda is obviously aiming their products more and more towards the power gamers and graphic mongers who don't care if the game has been thoroughly tested or not. People say I am ungrateful for the hard-work and time invested in this product. I say, "If you're going to do something, do it right!" The Physics system in Oblivion is ludicrous! You bump a shelf and a lying book falls, but a standing cup stays in place. It's nearly impossible to place items. Morrowind was VERY user friendly for decorating. I also do not believe that if I smash a 6' tall muscular man with my two-handed hammer (me being only 5'4"), that I could send him flying 15'+ feet, no matter how muscular or well-trained I am. It's absurd and unnecessary. If I fry something with 15 points of fire damage, I shouldn't have to search until next July to find the corpse. The biggest problem I have with Morrowind is that it is not worth bothering with the marksman skill. The arrows are like hurling toothpicks at your opponent. I've often wondered why these people do not try a little archery themselves so that they have some idea about it. If I hit a critical spot, I can bring down that 6' tall muscular man with a singular, well-placed arrow: A temple, jugular, etc. With a crossbow, I could penetrate many armor types. If I were skilled enough, I could hit a "jinx" or open spot in the armor - where the pieces join, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasder Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 When you posted this topic, in the forum area dedicated to Oblivion, did it never cross your mind that no one would agree with you? If you don't like Oblivion, don't come to the Oblivion forum. Where's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedantic Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 @ heatherceana :thumbsup: I can't find myself disagreeing with anything you say. :biggrin: The Link below (or variants of) will help you greatly meanwhile. Decorator assistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezdimona Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 there is no lock picking minigame in Morrowind, its all dependant on skill!there isn't one in Oblivion either,skill is the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanAlderon Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 When you posted this topic, in the forum area dedicated to Oblivion, did it never cross your mind that no one would agree with you? If you don't like Oblivion, don't come to the Oblivion forum. Where's the point? Maybe this should be moved to the debate thread?? And considering this is in the Oblivion area, if you posted this thread in General Morrowind maybe you'd get a better reaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyroman666 Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 well if I had posted this in Morrowind they would all say yeah its the better of the two games however posting it Here people who dont play morrowind say hmm what on earth is this guy talking about and hopefully will take a look at the other game Oh and the other point I forgot was just how much better the magic system is in Morrowind. Resist magic in morrowind protects you from (I could be wrong Im not too sure) on paralysis but things like absorb health damage health that sort of thing and to protect the from elemental attacks you needed resist element. In Oblivion you just need resist magic and you wont be harmed by just about anything and if your a brenton well with a mundane ring your set you dont need any more resist magic. Granted you dont have to use the ring, and some ppl lower your magic resist but more often then not they just lower your fire/frost/shock resistance so your resist magic just takes care of it. And yes you can always get one if you do the main quest line after lvl 20 at some point. move the topic if you wish to controversial if you wish but not to morrowind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezdimona Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I don't find it controversial,I think so far things have moved along smoothly.Since I played Morrowind before Oblivion,I can see valid points from you.I did enjoy the game as I said,but Oblivion justs suits me better for some reason.Both could use improvements and mods really make both games customizeable,which is really cool.Hopefully TES V will combine the good stuff from both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanAlderon Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 hehe what about the restore paralize on self spell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123testing Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 fyi: morrowwind is a suckish game that has passed its time, and has crap graphics for this day and age! oblivion- far better in graphics, storyline, and doesnt make you bored after 1 hour oblivion is far far far far far far far beter!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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